The Island -Bear Grylls

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Yeah, her body will be gong through a huge amount of stress, and will be affecting her mood/personality. She may well have a good chunk of self-hate as it is. Swimming is a great thing as a leisure activity, but not when you heavy life sustaining work to do, if she had had the right attitude and treated it as a harsh fat camp, she could have done herself so much good. The 6'6 guy needed 3,000 cals a day.
It didn't help that the other gobby one has two speeds and isn't articulate enough to explain things, but then that's what we always see. THe environment erodes peoples manners and people become shorter, more irritable, more irascible.

chris4652009

1,572 posts

84 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Lazy mind = lazy person
glad she's gone tbh, the show will be better without her

Greshamst

2,059 posts

120 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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One thing they haven't touched on, but looks horrific and would definitely affect my morale is the horrendous bites everyone has. Everyone's face/legs etc are covered in hundreds of bites, must be horrible

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Greshamst said:
One thing they haven't touched on, but looks horrific and would definitely affect my morale is the horrendous bites everyone has. Everyone's face/legs etc are covered in hundreds of bites, must be horrible
Yes must be terrible.
What's the best armour against them, slim fitting sports compression clothing?

chris4652009

1,572 posts

84 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Halb said:
Yes must be terrible.
What's the best armour against them, slim fitting sports compression clothing?
Misquotes for example still get you through compression gear.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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chris4652009 said:
Halb said:
Yes must be terrible.
What's the best armour against them, slim fitting sports compression clothing?
Misquotes for example still get you through compression gear.
I was thinking yeah, the stinger could get through, but would it deter? What attracts them? I was thinking smell/sweat/chemicals, some compression brands try and armour this.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-...

chris4652009

1,572 posts

84 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Halb said:
chris4652009 said:
Halb said:
Yes must be terrible.
What's the best armour against them, slim fitting sports compression clothing?
Misquotes for example still get you through compression gear.
I was thinking yeah, the stinger could get through, but would it deter? What attracts them? I was thinking smell/sweat/chemicals, some compression brands try and armour this.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-...
No idea , I train outdoors a lot all summer, I wear under armour compression gear and cover myself in A DEET based bug spray but still get the odd sting/bite.

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Halb said:
Greshamst said:
One thing they haven't touched on, but looks horrific and would definitely affect my morale is the horrendous bites everyone has. Everyone's face/legs etc are covered in hundreds of bites, must be horrible
Yes must be terrible.
What's the best armour against them, slim fitting sports compression clothing?
Probably not sleeping on the floor would alleviate alot of the bite issues. Given that the shelter looks fairly sturdy, surely it wouldnt be hard to make a camp bed?

Didnt they do it in another season?

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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We've hardly seen them do anything this season.

If I were there, I would be out fishing with the hooks and line they're given. A couple of seasons back there was a Sean Locke lookalike who caught several fish a day with relative ease.

nicanary

9,793 posts

146 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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e30m3Mark said:
We've hardly seen them do anything this season.

If I were there, I would be out fishing with the hooks and line they're given. A couple of seasons back there was a Sean Locke lookalike who caught several fish a day with relative ease.
The editing has been rubbish. We've seen them catch an iguana, a snake and guinea-fowl and yet the next few days they don't bother to go looking for another, which makes me think the filming has been spliced in a haphazard manner. I reckon the good food "catches" were made later on in the stay when the crew had had a chance to plant them.

I don't think it's just sand flies from sleeping on the beach which cause the bites - they keep wandering through mangroves . Surely there'd be all sorts of mozzie-type insects in there?

lemmingjames

7,456 posts

204 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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i noticed that in the poor camp some are sleeping on beds, whereas the fat one whose face looks like its been hit with a shovel sleeps on the floor. She also looks like the one who has been bitten the most.

As im watching it on catch-up, Barnes just said the fowl was the first proper food theyve had in 7 days

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Halb said:
Greshamst said:
One thing they haven't touched on, but looks horrific and would definitely affect my morale is the horrendous bites everyone has. Everyone's face/legs etc are covered in hundreds of bites, must be horrible
Yes must be terrible.
What's the best armour against them, slim fitting sports compression clothing?
Coconut oil. There are thousands of coconuts on the island. The brown ones will fall off the trees. They have knives to open them. Rub the coconut on the skin and bingo. It's what the natives do.


And I see they found a net, as I predicted above!

Edited by Ayahuasca on Tuesday 17th April 22:53

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Hold on, flightless birds? WTF?

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
Hold on, flightless birds? WTF?
Flightless birds that allow you to pluck them from the trees too, they're a rare thing, but not on this island.
Along with the usual abandoned fishing net just the right size and length for fishing on the coastline with and some dumb fish that heads straight into it all on its own with no provocation to get tangled up ready for dinner.

prand

5,915 posts

196 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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227bhp said:
Flightless birds that allow you to pluck them from the trees too, they're a rare thing, but not on this island.
Along with the usual abandoned fishing net just the right size and length for fishing on the coastline with and some dumb fish that heads straight into it all on its own with no provocation to get tangled up ready for dinner.
I reckon the fish (such as the individual small sharks in previous series) are planted in the nets too when the islanders are asleep. Then we had the episode with friendly fishermen turning up too.

Very frustrating programme. Was a great premise, but it's pretty much got its own obvious artificial themes now, which expects us to suspend our disbelief. Just like those idiotic car rescue shows, I can't get my head round doing that, and the justification of the producers to create an "entertainment" show is nonsense.

chris4652009

1,572 posts

84 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
Coconut oil. There are thousands of coconuts on the island. The brown ones will fall off the trees. They have knives to open them. Rub the coconut on the skin and bingo. It's what the natives do.
It makes great lube too #justsaying

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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prand said:
I reckon the fish (such as the individual small sharks in previous series) are planted in the nets too when the islanders are asleep. Then we had the episode with friendly fishermen turning up too.

Very frustrating programme. Was a great premise, but it's pretty much got its own obvious artificial themes now, which expects us to suspend our disbelief. Just like those idiotic car rescue shows, I can't get my head round doing that, and the justification of the producers to create an "entertainment" show is nonsense.
Yes indeed. It's kind of hard to believe that if they were just left to survive without any intervention they would just die.

Would they? scratchchin

I know that being wet, hungry, tired and bitten must put you at an all time low and see things in a different (probably warped) way, but they seem to have zero survival instinct or it's likely they know that they'll be helped, so play on that instead.

pattieG

196 posts

149 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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That's where I'd be heading!

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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pattieG said:


That's where I'd be heading!
Nah, get to the big island and you have real wild pigs, snakes, jungle to contend with and you are further from civilization.

I would head due north. A few islands up (all very close to each other) there are hotels, beach bars and cocktails. That is probably where Bear hangs out.

Those poor birds had their wings clipped.

The net could be genuine - there are washed up nets there.


Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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NB - if anyone really wants to see if they could do any better than this lot, you can do the exact same thing in the exact same place very easily and all it will cost you is a plane fare to Panama, an $80 dollar ferry to the cocktail island, and then $40 to a fisherman to drop you at this island. Pigs and flightless birds are not included though.