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I love a restoration series - the Espada was amazing - so I'm really hooked on this Jag.
In 1988, a friend bought an XJ coupe but with the V8 engine [edit: may have been an i6 - was a long time ago]. It was, believe it or not, his first car at 19yo. It clearly had the original suspension because it floated like a barge and had only an occasional relationship with the road. I think it had been brush painted - its black paint was irregular at best.
It was both amazing and terrifying.
Insurance for young drivers was expensive even then but can you imagine how much it'd cost a 19yo to insure one of those today?
In 1988, a friend bought an XJ coupe but with the V8 engine [edit: may have been an i6 - was a long time ago]. It was, believe it or not, his first car at 19yo. It clearly had the original suspension because it floated like a barge and had only an occasional relationship with the road. I think it had been brush painted - its black paint was irregular at best.
It was both amazing and terrifying.
Insurance for young drivers was expensive even then but can you imagine how much it'd cost a 19yo to insure one of those today?
Edited by Mars on Monday 8th March 09:04
Cold said:
I watched the XJC episode this evening. I do like that car and I'm so pleased that you've been able to justify some considerable expenditure on it - even if the maths probably make no financial sense whatsoever.
Looking forward to Part 2 of the resto series already.
Very reminiscent of the walking tour of the Daimler I inherited in my 20s when my grandfather stopped driving. Lovely car that's still about and I still keep pondering whether to buy it back and have it done. Looking forward to Part 2 of the resto series already.
That car was bought news from Stratstones in Mayfair and my father always had his cars wax oiled so this one was done, dropped round to my grandfather and some time later when coming to a halt in the garage he heard the whoosh of water in the sills. A few minutes later after a poke with a screwdriver and the floor was awash with dark orange water.
The Mad Monk said:
May I apologise in advance for being dreadfully suburban, but:-
£15,000 to £20,000! For a paint job? O.K. a paint job with knobs on, but even so!
It seems that some body panels are expensive. Didn't it include £3,000 for removing the engine? And presumably giving that a going-over too.£15,000 to £20,000! For a paint job? O.K. a paint job with knobs on, but even so!
Loving the restoration content lately, also had a good binge of all your road-trip episodes recently.
That little snippet of how quickly the V12 revs really surprised me. Can imagine it's a wonderful thing to press on in. As for the new colour... the purple on your project 8 is stunning. But as you mentioned, perhaps it's time for a new colour that stands out in the garage?
That little snippet of how quickly the V12 revs really surprised me. Can imagine it's a wonderful thing to press on in. As for the new colour... the purple on your project 8 is stunning. But as you mentioned, perhaps it's time for a new colour that stands out in the garage?
maz8062 said:
I see Silverstone auctions has got an auction coming up later this month. Has Harry done an inventory walk around yet? If not, why not? I love them!
Not yet but I'll be doing one next week. Some really good entries in there too, so I expect it won't be a short video review.. DonkeyApple said:
Very reminiscent of the walking tour of the Daimler I inherited in my 20s when my grandfather stopped driving. Lovely car that's still about and I still keep pondering whether to buy it back and have it done.
That car was bought news from Stratstones in Mayfair and my father always had his cars wax oiled so this one was done, dropped round to my grandfather and some time later when coming to a halt in the garage he heard the whoosh of water in the sills. A few minutes later after a poke with a screwdriver and the floor was awash with dark orange water.
Shocking but then that was the time when this sort of thing used to happen. Rust was almost the biggest ownership issue back in the seventies and early eighties, especially for my generation when trying to buy yourself a more fun car, as it was always cars that were close to not passing their next MOT (due to rust and priced accordingly) that tempted you to give them a go in the hope you could patch it up well enough to get through their next MOT. So different today, as rust doesn't ever seem to a problem on new cars anymoreThat car was bought news from Stratstones in Mayfair and my father always had his cars wax oiled so this one was done, dropped round to my grandfather and some time later when coming to a halt in the garage he heard the whoosh of water in the sills. A few minutes later after a poke with a screwdriver and the floor was awash with dark orange water.
Mezzanine said:
They are also fixing a hell of a lot of rust damage too.
Mentioned in the video about how time consuming some of the panel work is, it will be man hours that soak all the money up, not simply just ‘a paint job’.
Correct, it's the amount of hours that costs, although my first choice of paint colour came back with a quote of £6000 (just for the tins of paint) and needs a triple stage application process, so we won't be doing that colour then.. Mentioned in the video about how time consuming some of the panel work is, it will be man hours that soak all the money up, not simply just ‘a paint job’.
M4SER said:
DonkeyApple said:
Very reminiscent of the walking tour of the Daimler I inherited in my 20s when my grandfather stopped driving. Lovely car that's still about and I still keep pondering whether to buy it back and have it done.
That car was bought news from Stratstones in Mayfair and my father always had his cars wax oiled so this one was done, dropped round to my grandfather and some time later when coming to a halt in the garage he heard the whoosh of water in the sills. A few minutes later after a poke with a screwdriver and the floor was awash with dark orange water.
Shocking but then that was the time when this sort of thing used to happen. Rust was almost the biggest ownership issue back in the seventies and early eighties, especially for my generation when trying to buy yourself a more fun car, as it was always cars that were close to not passing their next MOT (due to rust and priced accordingly) that tempted you to give them a go in the hope you could patch it up well enough to get through their next MOT. So different today, as rust doesn't ever seem to a problem on new cars anymoreThat car was bought news from Stratstones in Mayfair and my father always had his cars wax oiled so this one was done, dropped round to my grandfather and some time later when coming to a halt in the garage he heard the whoosh of water in the sills. A few minutes later after a poke with a screwdriver and the floor was awash with dark orange water.
"Helped launch JLR Special Operations in June 2014, which is the new Halo division for Jaguar Land Rover responsible for JLR Heritage, JLR Bespoke, JLR brand extensions and Special Vehicle Operations (SVO)"
There must be a few tins of leftover JLR paint kicking around or you know a guy that knows a guy?
There must be a few tins of leftover JLR paint kicking around or you know a guy that knows a guy?
Either Harry is leading us on about the colour and teasing it out over the restoration, or he can't choose one!
I like the idea of dark green, so tried (and failed) to see if their was a period Jaguar colour that would do. Perhaps 'Steed' green is a bit too copycat, not sure if that would be metallic but a bit of flake in dark green would be cool.
Or have a vote and we'll choose.... ;-)
I guessed the cost and timescale of the restoration pretty accurately, I've been watching too many of these things...
To the owner of the Indigo Blue XJC, if you're on here - tell us your story!
Anyone have an update on the Steed XJC, I think last I heard the restorers had gone bust?
I like the idea of dark green, so tried (and failed) to see if their was a period Jaguar colour that would do. Perhaps 'Steed' green is a bit too copycat, not sure if that would be metallic but a bit of flake in dark green would be cool.
Or have a vote and we'll choose.... ;-)
I guessed the cost and timescale of the restoration pretty accurately, I've been watching too many of these things...
To the owner of the Indigo Blue XJC, if you're on here - tell us your story!
Anyone have an update on the Steed XJC, I think last I heard the restorers had gone bust?
M4SER said:
DonkeyApple said:
Very reminiscent of the walking tour of the Daimler I inherited in my 20s when my grandfather stopped driving. Lovely car that's still about and I still keep pondering whether to buy it back and have it done.
That car was bought news from Stratstones in Mayfair and my father always had his cars wax oiled so this one was done, dropped round to my grandfather and some time later when coming to a halt in the garage he heard the whoosh of water in the sills. A few minutes later after a poke with a screwdriver and the floor was awash with dark orange water.
Shocking but then that was the time when this sort of thing used to happen. Rust was almost the biggest ownership issue back in the seventies and early eighties, especially for my generation when trying to buy yourself a more fun car, as it was always cars that were close to not passing their next MOT (due to rust and priced accordingly) that tempted you to give them a go in the hope you could patch it up well enough to get through their next MOT. So different today, as rust doesn't ever seem to a problem on new cars anymoreThat car was bought news from Stratstones in Mayfair and my father always had his cars wax oiled so this one was done, dropped round to my grandfather and some time later when coming to a halt in the garage he heard the whoosh of water in the sills. A few minutes later after a poke with a screwdriver and the floor was awash with dark orange water.
It's quite staggering, when you think back to that era that stuff started rotting from the moment it came off the assembly line regardless of what you did. My parents Jags, Daimlers, Aston's and then Range Rovers all just went for it despite being oiled, garaged and kept clean.
Conversely today, you can stand in a car park of 15-20 year old cars and not see any rust.
P38 and rattle can sales must have plummeted. You practically had to pick some up on the drive home from collecting a new car.
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