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carl_w said:
DonkeyApple said:
A sprint day like that is pretty much the only viable form of track motorsport for EVs though. Just a few laps spread over a day and lots of downtime for recharging if necessary.
At last year's Abingdon CARnival sprint Tesla Model 3s came 3rd, 6th, 7th and 13th overall. carl_w said:
DonkeyApple said:
A sprint day like that is pretty much the only viable form of track motorsport for EVs though. Just a few laps spread over a day and lots of downtime for recharging if necessary.
At last year's Abingdon CARnival sprint Tesla Model 3s came 3rd, 6th, 7th and 13th overall. JeremyH5 said:
carl_w said:
DonkeyApple said:
A sprint day like that is pretty much the only viable form of track motorsport for EVs though. Just a few laps spread over a day and lots of downtime for recharging if necessary.
At last year's Abingdon CARnival sprint Tesla Model 3s came 3rd, 6th, 7th and 13th overall. 
M4SER said:
Great to see Goodwood Sprint video has generated lots of positive comments, I thought it came out really well and I have to thank my son Charlie for dashing around getting all the trackside clips from various points on the circuit when I was out on track. I'll try and answer a few of the questions raised in the last few posts..
I think a lap of Goodwood was faster in the 80s/90s despite the surface being better now than it was previously. The big reason for saying this is the chicane is much slower today than it was back then. I remember it being a quick dab and into 3rd in the Elan, rather than a biggish stop and grab 2nd today.
The Project 8 is a near perfect weapon for Sprinting in my view, as is the GTR. You want a trustworthy chassis than you can nibble away at the outer limits without fear of a sudden loss of control, which is why 4WD is a big advantage, especially in the wet.
As for my performance on the day, I was disappointed with my final run as I didn't attack the first corner hard enough. I should have pushed harder and slid around more than I did, as that would have generated more heat in the tyres for Fordwater, which is why I really wanted another run. Had it have been dry from the very start, I think a run in the high eighties was on in the Project 8 but I wouldn't have got close to the winning 85 time without a whole lot more practice.
I have zero interest in tweaking the P8, I like it exactly how it is. I prefer to become a better driver than rely on adding more bhp in the chase for quicker lap times.
Garry Metcalfe's times were the most impressive to me in my class as his GTR was showroom standard (it was one of the latest Nissan GTR with CCM brakes), plus he's older than me! The other GTRs there were 800bhp machines, with plenty of tweaks and two sets of tyres/wheels to use, depending on track conditions. The 820bhp RS6 was impressive too, it was entered by a German father and son team, who regularly come over to as many Goodwood events as they can. We went out for beers with them afterwards..
I've looked at doing mechanise but have been put off by the difficulties in fulfilling orders from outside the UK, which I would get as 60% of my audience is outside the UK. One day..
One of your best videos to date and one I thoroughly enjoyed. Especially the photos of the course back in the 90's. Would love to see more content like this, serious cars being driven as they were intended.I think a lap of Goodwood was faster in the 80s/90s despite the surface being better now than it was previously. The big reason for saying this is the chicane is much slower today than it was back then. I remember it being a quick dab and into 3rd in the Elan, rather than a biggish stop and grab 2nd today.
The Project 8 is a near perfect weapon for Sprinting in my view, as is the GTR. You want a trustworthy chassis than you can nibble away at the outer limits without fear of a sudden loss of control, which is why 4WD is a big advantage, especially in the wet.
As for my performance on the day, I was disappointed with my final run as I didn't attack the first corner hard enough. I should have pushed harder and slid around more than I did, as that would have generated more heat in the tyres for Fordwater, which is why I really wanted another run. Had it have been dry from the very start, I think a run in the high eighties was on in the Project 8 but I wouldn't have got close to the winning 85 time without a whole lot more practice.
I have zero interest in tweaking the P8, I like it exactly how it is. I prefer to become a better driver than rely on adding more bhp in the chase for quicker lap times.
Garry Metcalfe's times were the most impressive to me in my class as his GTR was showroom standard (it was one of the latest Nissan GTR with CCM brakes), plus he's older than me! The other GTRs there were 800bhp machines, with plenty of tweaks and two sets of tyres/wheels to use, depending on track conditions. The 820bhp RS6 was impressive too, it was entered by a German father and son team, who regularly come over to as many Goodwood events as they can. We went out for beers with them afterwards..
I've looked at doing mechanise but have been put off by the difficulties in fulfilling orders from outside the UK, which I would get as 60% of my audience is outside the UK. One day..
As for future videos, i do hope you've managed to get your hands on a 911 Dakar and will be giving it a full farm test !
JeremyH5 said:
carl_w said:
DonkeyApple said:
A sprint day like that is pretty much the only viable form of track motorsport for EVs though. Just a few laps spread over a day and lots of downtime for recharging if necessary.
At last year's Abingdon CARnival sprint Tesla Model 3s came 3rd, 6th, 7th and 13th overall. JeremyH5 said:
I think that’s the event that Steve Crowley of Autocar entered with a group of mates all in Teslas. He reports that the organisers will not accept their entries this year. The reasons given are vague and he speculates that the ICE car entrants didn’t like being beaten.
You're right, Steve Cropley came 13thhttps://abingdoncarnival.com/wp-content/uploads/20...
DonkeyApple said:
JeremyH5 said:
carl_w said:
DonkeyApple said:
A sprint day like that is pretty much the only viable form of track motorsport for EVs though. Just a few laps spread over a day and lots of downtime for recharging if necessary.
At last year's Abingdon CARnival sprint Tesla Model 3s came 3rd, 6th, 7th and 13th overall. greenarrow said:
Yes I remember that article and just dug it out. I think four of the Model 3s were modified by a firm called TEVO who change the suspension, brakes and put semi slick road tyres on them. The sprint in question used a course with very long swooping bends and one chicane.
That's the Abingdon Course. The Bentley course is all right angled point n squirts so again ideal for an electric car.Sway said:
Having been regaled about what a good steer they are, i wonder what an i3 would be like?
It'd only have to get a mile from the circuit to get me home and on charge!
At Goodwood - terrible. They're suitably EV quick up to about 70, but they aren't made for higher speeds and Goodwood is a high speed circuit (note Harry's terminal speeds - the i3 tops out well below that). I suspect however that on a tighter, twistier course it could be more competitive, but the skinny tyres mean you'll be running out of grip through the faster stuff I suspect.It'd only have to get a mile from the circuit to get me home and on charge!
I've often wondered whether I should take ours up Harewood, just to see what it'll do but I don't think I'd get home afterwards without a trailer
With people talking about running their EV at sprints and Hillclimbs it may be worth noting that a fair few venues exclude them because of the additional fire control facilities that are required. I guess a circuit like Goodwood already has adequate cover but smaller venues have done the sums and found it not financially viable to buy the extra kit.
Nice to see the old Audi RS6 Avant again. . And so much better looking than today's behemoth SUVs.
But 6mpg!
And I know this is an 03 car (so, I guess a V8 - not an 08 V10), but has any car, in any film, been more perfectly cast?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4thL6DPmA_g
But 6mpg!
And I know this is an 03 car (so, I guess a V8 - not an 08 V10), but has any car, in any film, been more perfectly cast?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4thL6DPmA_g
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