24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4

[Mojooo]

I wonder if the Police told the woman that even though she didn't agree to going to court that they would use all the information she gave in interview - if she had said nothing it would have made it less likely he would have got convicted.

[Bluedot]

Nice to see No Comment turn into a confession, I take back what I said a few pages back about No Comment being a waste of everyone's time.
Can't stick it when the accused turns up at the Police Station and starts giving it the "I've got two kids", "I love my kids",blah blah blah. Pull your finger out and start doing the right thing then if you really want that, not staggering down the road with a tin in your hand.

[CalNaughtonJnr]

The 2 Community Policing Officers who initially dealt with him were muppets - 1st question of interview; "so, are you, erm, guilty?" can the Police even ask that?

[anonymous-user]

CalNaughtonJnr said:

The 2 Community Policing Officers who initially dealt with him were muppets - 1st question of interview; "so, are you, erm, guilty?" can the Police even ask that?

The one major point that Mrs G and I commented on was how unprofessional the police appear to be at various times.

[200Plus Club]

I thought they were joking with that question lol!

"We've got you stitched up like a kipper guv"

Edited by 200Plus Club on Tuesday 12th June 16:54

Edited by 200Plus Club on Tuesday 12th June 23:39

[Mojooo]

It is actually taught by the Police to ask that question at the start but the way he phrased it wasn't done very well - he should have said something like - 'are you guilty of the offence you are accused of ?' - or something similar.

Oh and he probably shouldn't have said fk either but overall it worked out.

[timbob]

CalNaughtonJnr said:

The 2 Community Policing Officers who initially dealt with him were muppets - 1st question of interview; "so, are you, erm, guilty?" can the Police even ask that?

First question you’re supposed to ask - but usually with the wording “are you responsible” (rather than guilty) for the offence?”

[wjb]

timbob said:

CalNaughtonJnr said:

The 2 Community Policing Officers who initially dealt with him were muppets - 1st question of interview; "so, are you, erm, guilty?" can the Police even ask that?

First question you’re supposed to ask - but usually with the wording “are you responsible” (rather than guilty) for the offence?”

Even that's a bit of a funny question though.

Maybe ok for a shoplifting, but for a more complex offence it doesn't really make sense.

Even if the suspect has done something wrong, how is he/she to know if they've committed that actual offence they've been arrested for.

You only need to go on s,p&l to see how clueless about the law the majority of people are, even the officer asking the question probably didn't know what offence had actually been committed at that point.

How many times do people get arrested for one thing and charged with something different? A lot I'd imagine.

[Mojooo]

wjb said:

timbob said:

CalNaughtonJnr said:

The 2 Community Policing Officers who initially dealt with him were muppets - 1st question of interview; "so, are you, erm, guilty?" can the Police even ask that?

First question you’re supposed to ask - but usually with the wording “are you responsible” (rather than guilty) for the offence?”

Even that's a bit of a funny question though.

Maybe ok for a shoplifting, but for a more complex offence it doesn't really make sense.

Even if the suspect has done something wrong, how is he/she to know if they've committed that actual offence they've been arrested for.

You only need to go on s,p&l to see how clueless about the law the majority of people are, even the officer asking the question probably didn't know what offence had actually been committed at that point.

How many times do people get arrested for one thing and charged with something different? A lot I'd imagine.

Jeez, its just a starter question to see if the person will admit to what they did and to guide the conversation down that path - obviously if they deny it or no comment then it goes in a different direction

Clearly a response of 'yes I am guilty' is generally not going to be enough to convict for the reasons you have given.

[P-Jay]

e30m3Mark said:

He see's himself as a victim in my opinion. Not just in this case, but life in general.

When he's drunk / high certainly, but when he sobers up he seemed probably the only remorseful and honest suspects I've seen on 24IPC.

[P-Jay]

CalNaughtonJnr said:

The 2 Community Policing Officers who initially dealt with him were muppets - 1st question of interview; "so, are you, erm, guilty?" can the Police even ask that?

I put them down to being young and excitable.

I hope I'm not so old now that Coppers all look like kids, but I have more than a sneaking suspicion that the tall skinny one from the original case would need to take ID to the Pub with him, I'm not sure I could have taken him that seriously, I'd be thinking "Yeah, I'm in trouble here, but equally I'm being interrogated by a Lad who's got posters on his bedroom wall".

[FiF]

During his spell in custody suite two years earlier, what was that slop he was eating? Mac and cheese, crumble and custard were the guesses of my lot. I just said it would something called "Complete insert random name", except complete might be written Compleat.

[LosingGrip]

I have to say I think the last couple of episodes have been a bit meh.

[P-Jay]

LosingGrip said:

I have to say I think the last couple of episodes have been a bit meh.

I can kind of agree, the 'problem' is that some of the episode are so spectacular (like arresting one of their own for blackmail) your 'average' attempted murder seems a bit mundane.

[Laurel Green]

Could be an interesting one this evening.

[oilbethere]

Boring so far.

[tim0409]

What a bleak episode; complete and utter scumbag.

[P-Jay]

What a horrible , someone needs to give him a serious shoeing and then lock him up forever.

[e30m3Mark]

Seriously depressing episode.

Can only hope someone recognises him and gives him the kicking he deserves.

[The Mad Monk]

I think the NFA was the only likely outcome. She had been in a relationship for some time having consensual 'rough' sex. She got a fractured skull - how? Still wouldn't complain. Seems a very immature, not very bright young woman.

I think the decision the CPS came to was the only viable one.