24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4

[Legacywr]

Willhire89 said:

The young girl's story was so incredible as to feel unlikely - sadly it was true.

She was not at that house every night and he gained entry and found her room with her father asleep next door and assaulted her. Once it became clear it was so brazen I said to my wife this will not be this guy's first offence - it transpired he had been assaulting two other girls for over twenty years.seemingly undetected

He appeared from the tracked CCTV to have walked some distance to the scene and then casually back home - surely some work had to be done on how he isolated her room in that house on that day

He is one sick individual

There was certainly a lot of targeting going on. Known to the family maybe?

[Grumbler]

TBH, my first thoughts were either the girl was lying, or the Dad was involved somehow. Apparently neither. I would have liked to have heard the Dad’s statement, as the door being unlocked, the paedo knowing where to go, the daughter not telling him, lots didn’t add up.
He was a pathetic little monster.
That said, if the girl had yelled, no court in the land would convict a parent for what ensued.

[Willhire89]

Grumbler said:

, or the Dad was involved somehow.

This .....completely unwittingly maybe but this.

Work colleague, mate, relative even. He knew where to go, and when, that he could get in the house and was chilled enough to stroll home

[Grumbler]

Yes. To be clear, unwittingly. It was a strange thing to happen. Always lock your doors, sometimes worst case scenarios actually happen.
I’m guessing the daughter doesn’t stay over so much now.
Awful case, but I did chuckle that the creeper paid people to show their belly button and shout ‘BELLY BUTTON’. Absolute crank.

[tim0409]

Willhire89 said:

This .....completely unwittingly maybe but this.

Work colleague, mate, relative even. He knew where to go, and when, that he could get in the house and was chilled enough to stroll home

I really struggle with it being entirely opportunistic given the circumstances; they mentioned he had apps like snapchat, so if I wonder if he had identified the victim beforehand and done some planning. It’s not entirely without precedent; there was another horrific crime in the North East where a young child aged 6 was snatched from the bath (her mum was in an adjacent room), taken away in a car and raped. There are some seriously sick individuals out there.

[Megaflow]

Willhire89 said:

Grumbler said:

, or the Dad was involved somehow.

This .....completely unwittingly maybe but this.

Work colleague, mate, relative even. He knew where to go, and when, that he could get in the house and was chilled enough to stroll home

Yep. Something very dodgy there... I did notice the dad wasn't mention much, if at all, I wonder if he could still be under investigation for his part in it.

As side from that, he broke into someone's home, raped an 11 year old and then admitted to 10 others and got only 22 years... holy cow!

What is going on in this country...

[P-Jay]

Megaflow said:

Willhire89 said:

Grumbler said:

, or the Dad was involved somehow.

This .....completely unwittingly maybe but this.

Work colleague, mate, relative even. He knew where to go, and when, that he could get in the house and was chilled enough to stroll home

Yep. Something very dodgy there... I did notice the dad wasn't mention much, if at all, I wonder if he could still be under investigation for his part in it.

As side from that, he broke into someone's home, raped an 11 year old and then admitted to 10 others and got only 22 years... holy cow!

What is going on in this country...

Sadly... I think this sort of stuff has always happened, the only difference is we believe the victims now and investigate. How many Girls were victims for years by the few famous faces who were found out and how many were assaulted by strangers and family and told they were lying, making it up or just to shut up before the Police cared, or had DNA / CCTV evidence to find them.

I don't think Dad was involved, the Police would have been through his life with a fine tooth comb. No, C4 were very, very careful to use the absolute minimum details about the victim and her family. I wept when we watched the Girl in the interview room, knowing my own 11yo Daughter was asleep upstairs.

Kudos to the Copper who must have worked endlessly to piece together and track that sub-human scum from the victims home all the way back to his own from thousands of hours of CCTV.

[JimmyConwayNW]

I can't watch any of these ones with crimes against kids.

Those fkers just never change and always reoffend. They should never be allowed out. I don't think many people are beyond rehabilitation. These beasts completely are.

[Willhire89]

P-Jay said:

I don't think Dad was involved, the Police would have been through his life with a fine tooth comb. No, C4 were very, very careful to use the absolute minimum details about the victim and her family.

There's no question on my mind that this guy had been in that house before - he could be a local tradesman that used that to scout houses.

I accept the young girl did not recognise him as someone she had encountered previously but if the father had the slightest inkling this guy might inflict this on his daughter he should be inside doing a similar number of years

[Jonnny]

To be fair, at first - Birmingham and a 11 year old girl, I thought Asian/Family suspect.

I'm sure he knew she was there, that's not an opportunistic crime. They hardly mentioned the father at all which I did find a bit weird but maybe he refused to be part of the program?

What strange perversions too, Belly Buttons? Lock him up until he finishes himself, supply the rope.

[Warhavernet]

Being told by those in charge in recent years not jump to conclusions and speculate about stuff, it is not too outlandish to wonder if this bloke maybe had a specific address in mind, where it was likely he would find a young girl, and would not be disturbed while in the house. Obviously we should not draw any conclusions from the absence of any input by the girl's family in the programme, just seems a bit strange.

[alone wolf]

Jonnny said:

To be fair, at first - Birmingham and a 11 year old girl, I thought Asian suspect.

They won't make programs about that

[GetCarter]

alone wolf said:

Jonnny said:

To be fair, at first - Birmingham and a 11 year old girl, I thought Asian suspect.

They won't make programs about that

Nonsense.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2017/...

[OpenToeSlipper]

Morning all, what police / crime shows are the most similar to 24 Hours in police custody? Is Forensics, the real CSI the next best thing?

Cheers

[gtidriver]

OpenToeSlipper said:

Morning all, what police / crime shows are the most similar to 24 Hours in police custody? Is Forensics, the real CSI the next best thing?

Cheers

Theres loads on 5 some are a mix of American and UK ones which I don't bother with as it skips between. BBC have quite a few as well

[alone wolf]

OpenToeSlipper said:

Morning all, what police / crime shows are the most similar to 24 Hours in police custody? Is Forensics, the real CSI the next best thing?

Cheers

There are some decent youtube channels reviewing 'real crime' stories and events, not quite 24 HIPC format but worth watching

[CountyLines]

Loads of good true crime stuff on Netflix.

[Warhavernet]

If you like Vintage crime two very good channels:


https://www.youtube.com/@thehangmansrecord

https://www.youtube.com/@TheyGotAwayWithMurder

[Doofus]

Warhavernet said:

If you like Vintage crime two very good channels:


https://www.youtube.com/@thehangmansrecord

https://www.youtube.com/@TheyGotAwayWithMurder

See also Well, I Never.

[Willhire89]

One of the 24HPC classics was repeated last night on maybe More 4 - the blackmail one where it was rather close to home for the investigative team and had an absolute rotter of a prostitute as the side show.

Nothing beats the insurance scamming consultant episode obvs