24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4

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Legacywr

Original Poster:

12,125 posts

188 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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Guilty as fk redface

Laurel Green

30,778 posts

232 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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With his behavior I'd assume so.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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Ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew urgh nasty

Laurel Green

30,778 posts

232 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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A tad of a change in his answering technique. Guilty!

WilliamWoollard

2,343 posts

193 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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I actually believed the cadet instructor in his first interview, then it all went a bit wrong for him when the second victim came forward.

The old boy was guilty as sin though. fking sickening.

Fckitdriveon

1,039 posts

90 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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Having just watched this and found it particularly hard hitting it's brought a question up in the fckitdriveon household.

Do the suspects have to give permission for their faces to be shown?! Because I can't imagine these 2 sex offenders would be too forthcoming in terms of waiving their anonymity.

Is it public domain (i.e police station) so therefore no expectation of privacy , is it guilt related so you're guilty and therefore lose the right to anonymity ?!

The old boys wife , married for donkeys years and next thing she knows he's admitting to kiddie fiddling. Abused that guy over a period of 10 plus years . Vile .

Apologies if my question has been answered before.

Mojooo

12,720 posts

180 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Based on watching so many of these types of reality program it seems that you can be filmed and basically have no choice over whether it is shown or not.

On occasion I have seen they have blanked peoples faces out where at the end they say the person was innocent or the case was ongoing but that does not always happen.

As good as TV as it makes, I would hope, for example, that if either of the guys today were found not guilty that their faces would be totally blanked out.

footnote

924 posts

106 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Fckitdriveon said:
Having just watched this and found it particularly hard hitting it's brought a question up in the fckitdriveon household.

Do the suspects have to give permission for their faces to be shown?! Because I can't imagine these 2 sex offenders would be too forthcoming in terms of waiving their anonymity.

Is it public domain (i.e police station) so therefore no expectation of privacy , is it guilt related so you're guilty and therefore lose the right to anonymity ?!

The old boys wife , married for donkeys years and next thing she knows he's admitting to kiddie fiddling. Abused that guy over a period of 10 plus years . Vile .

Apologies if my question has been answered before.
If they name or visually identify the accused at the beginning or early in the show then they will be found guilty by the end of the show.

I don't think I've seen an unidentified person found guilty or an identified person found not guilty.

I think the 'public interest' overides the 'right to private life' when guilt has been proven - the programme makers already know someone has been found guilty before they edit/make the episode in question - so privacy is not an issue when using the police recordings

I can't recall any episode of an alleged child abuser being found innocent and I suspect that's a 'political' decision on the part of the makers/broadcaster to encourage victims to feel they will be believed and to come forward

These episodes always make me feel there's a crucial part missed out - like how they progressed with the old man from one person's word against another to a guilty plea - seemed to be big gaps there that a defence barrister would have used.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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It is a strange age where police claim they cannot 'name and shame' murderers on the run, but a probable criminal (who still has rights and could well be identified and experience violence in prison or on the street as a result) can have a camera shoved in his face through the whole process.

What makes it even more odd is that when these programs get repeated on the minor channels, everyone suddenly gets blurred out and their names beeped, even the coppers some times!

Laurel Green

30,778 posts

232 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Slavery and travelers this evening.

Laurel Green

30,778 posts

232 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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I bet that copper enjoyed that little blast down the country lane.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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very depressing, when a slave doesn't know he is slave.

CoolHands

18,630 posts

195 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Their own little fiefdom

hungry_hog

2,234 posts

188 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Why do they have to ask innumerable questions when the answer is "no comment", and the solicitor says "no comment" at the start. Complete waste of time.

eldar

21,740 posts

196 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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hungry_hog said:
Why do they have to ask innumerable questions when the answer is "no comment", and the solicitor says "no comment" at the start. Complete waste of time.
Eliminates excuses/explanations at trial?

andymc

7,352 posts

207 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Utter scumbags

Mojooo

12,720 posts

180 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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hungry_hog said:
Why do they have to ask innumerable questions when the answer is "no comment", and the solicitor says "no comment" at the start. Complete waste of time.
Because they have to give an opportunity to answer so when it goes to trial they cannot with some answer and then say they were never asked in the Police station interview.

Bit disappointing they charged for slavery but dropped the charge with no explanation.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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eldar said:
hungry_hog said:
Why do they have to ask innumerable questions when the answer is "no comment", and the solicitor says "no comment" at the start. Complete waste of time.
Eliminates excuses/explanations at trial?
“You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”

Oakey

27,565 posts

216 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Going no comment is probably why they dropped the slavery charge. They had little evidence and as he didn't answer any questions there was no way for him to incriminate himself.

Is this the same family that we're going around Europe robbing stately homes / museums?

Mojooo

12,720 posts

180 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Oakey said:
Going no comment is probably why they dropped the slavery charge. They had little evidence and as he didn't answer any questions there was no way for him to incriminate himself.

Is this the same family that we're going around Europe robbing stately homes / museums?
You dont charge someone unless you already believe you have the evidence

if they believed that then it would have been no further action