Marvel Cinematic Universe

[ukaskew]

Disney are likely to acquire 20th Century Fox soon, so that'll be interesting considering the Marvel properties they have cinematic rights to.

Not sure if it's a good or bad thing though. On the one hand it means The Avengers have a load of new team mates to call on, on the other hand Disney have made it quite clear that they won't entertain R rated movies. I think on balance the world is a better place with Deadpool and Logan as they are over them sanitised and incorporated into the MCU proper.

[Halb]

Nice prediction.

https://youtu.be/wZE0LedBp54

Great lil vid on how Thor Ragnarok should have been far more bolder, and tis in with the viewpoint that the Asgard story is boring, and the Sakaar story pretty entertaining.
Also shows how Thor grows

[fatandwheezing]

Halb said:

Nice prediction.

https://youtu.be/wZE0LedBp54

Great lil vid on how Thor Ragnarok should have been far more bolder, and tis in with the viewpoint that the Asgard story is boring, and the Sakaar story pretty entertaining.
Also shows how Thor grows

I'm clearly not the intended audience for the average youtuber, but is that the level of critique that is accepted by viewers these days: "it's just too predictable. Spider-Man was unpredictable, but this is predictable unless you're an idiot and that's wak", "I was pleased with this actress because she was good, unlike in that other thing where she was bad, and I was worried she would be bad, so it was good that she was not bad".

That Preston bloke is just as bad with his fanboy whining about anything that isn't exactly as he'd imagined it when reading the book.

[Halb]

Everything Wrong With "Thor: Ragnarok" | PITCH MEETING

https://youtu.be/h2kl4cVc5Dw

[Tony Starks]

Halb said:

=Everything Wrong With "Thor: Ragnarok" | PITCH MEETING=
https://youtu.be/h2kl4cVc5Dw

Exactly! They should have stuck with Kenneth Brannagh. Still better than IM3 though.

[Halb]

Tony Starks said:

Exactly! They should have stuck with Kenneth Brannagh. Still better than IM3 though.

I rather like IM3, its one I can watch again.

[SpudLink]

Halb said:

Tony Starks said:

Exactly! They should have stuck with Kenneth Brannagh. Still better than IM3 though.

I rather like IM3, its one I can watch again.

Not a big fan of Ragnarok. It was entertaining, sure, but that’s not enough. I much prefer Branagh’s treatment of Thor and the whole Asgardian thing.
But I think I had my rant in another thread a while ago.

IM3 is great for the first 2 thirds or so. The stuff with Stark’s PTSD. His friendship with the kid who’s garage he hides in. The Manderin, and the comedy reveal. (“His Hamlet was the toast of Croydon. Wherever that is.”)
The trouble is the action stuff at the end is generic ‘climatic battle’ but turned up to 11. They hadn’t figured out yet that you can dial it back a bit and focus on character for the big finale.

[Halb]

Yeah, both are good points.

THis poped up on my youtube feed, didn't know Tom had gone for THor....stringy Thor.

Tom Hiddleston auditions for Thor

https://youtu.be/wtLLls2nbyI

[Halb]

New Characters In Development For Phase 4 Of The MCU And Beyond

http://therealstanlee.com/new-characters-in-develo...

[Tony Starks]

Will people still have the appetite for it after IW?

[Halb]

Tony Starks said:

Will people still have the appetite for it after IW?

It's a good question, one I've asked myself. Still not seen Black Panther. I guess I'll watch IW1 and I'll know, if it's really good, chances are I will. But one thing I do love, the long story format, which coincidently enough, I've just watched a video on.

How Comic Book Storytelling is Changing Movies

https://youtu.be/ZO2OGUiUJww
12 mins

Edited by Halb on Wednesday 25th April 11:56

[Moonhawk]

Tony Starks said:

Will people still have the appetite for it after IW?

One of the reviews I read stated that there is an end credit scene on IW that makes them wish the new movie in the chain was here.....like tomorrow.

We still have Ant Man 2, IW2, Captain Marvel, Guardians 3 and Spiderman 2 all confirmed.

After the success of Black Panther - a second BP movie is also dead cert i'd say. They are also at a pretty advanced stage with regards to a standalone Black Widow movie too.

I think the MCU still has plenty of legs on it and I don't think the audience is showing any signs of fatigue. They are varied enough and have interesting enough characters and events to keep people coming back.

Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 25th April 11:52

[Vocal Minority]

I don't think you can underestimate the power of having a complicated but coherent universe. It's not trotting out the same character on different stories, but they are all standalone movies that meander in and out of eachothers orbit, whilst making sense.

It's given it an awful lot of longevity

[Halb]

I think it's a tad annoying/sad later characters won't bet to have their stories wit the earlier ones, there won't be a Herc/Thor team up.

who owns what
seems She-Hulk is solely owned.
https://nerdist.com/marvel-film-rights-infographic...
https://www.newsarama.com/37798-marvel-film-rights...
shame abut Namor, he's the one I would wish to see most, also Alpha Flight

[Halb]

Thor 3 on beeb tonight, time to give it a third chance.

[SpudLink]

Halb said:

Thor 3 on beeb tonight, time to give it a third chance.

You mean 2, obviously.

I never hated it. Actually I enjoyed it at the cinema first time around. Yes, it’s got a dull villain. No, it’s not one of the MCU’s best. But it was OK. (And when it killed someone close to Thor, it tried to make you care. Unlike another Thor sequel that everyone else seems to love.)

[Tony Starks]

SpudLink said:

You mean 2, obviously.

I never hated it. Actually I enjoyed it at the cinema first time around. Yes, it’s got a dull villain. No, it’s not one of the MCU’s best. But it was OK. (And when it killed someone close to Thor, it tried to make you care. Unlike another Thor sequel that everyone else seems to love.)

Glad I'm not the only one who prefered 3 to 2. It would have been good to see Brannagh see the sequels out.

[Halb]

SpudLink said:

You mean 2, obviously.

I never hated it. Actually I enjoyed it at the cinema first time around. Yes, it’s got a dull villain. No, it’s not one of the MCU’s best. But it was OK. (And when it killed someone close to Thor, it tried to make you care. Unlike another Thor sequel that everyone else seems to love.)

Yeah, I meant two. Tried on two occasions to watch it, ended it after 10 mins. Trued again and over a few days I watched it. Glad I did, it gets better as it goes on. Yeah the baddie is cut-out, and the story is a tad retread, but there were good moments, and it was interesting to see THor fight in Greenwich and have a load of students watch.
I knew the twist already, and so could see the hints given that forecast it. Nice.

[ecsrobin]

I caught up with black panther the other day. It’s a good film but probably one if not watch again which is unlike the majority of the marvel universe.

[SpudLink]

ecsrobin said:

I caught up with black panther the other day. It’s a good film but probably one if not watch again which is unlike the majority of the marvel universe.

I’ve just watched Black Panther for the first time since the opening week.
I stand by my original opinion that if you ignore the ‘cultural significance’ stuff, it’s a good MCU film, but not one of the best. On a par with the first Thor. Maybe a little better, but similar level.
However the ‘cultural significance’ is part of what the film is about. Killmonger is one of the MCUs better villains, and his motivation is driven by centuries of geopolitics. And the subtext is all through the film. That is something that separates BP from what has come before.