Westworld (NO SPOILERS)
Discussion
Just finished. wow! I thought it was pretty good and did answer some questions and closed up some stuff for me!
I didn't understand why Delores couldn't be killed by MIB but could by Bernard.
Either way. Very very good. I noticed Delores change of outfit to that navy dress, thunking back, she's worn that in other scenes so is it to be assumed those other scenes are also in the future?
I didn't understand why Delores couldn't be killed by MIB but could by Bernard.
Either way. Very very good. I noticed Delores change of outfit to that navy dress, thunking back, she's worn that in other scenes so is it to be assumed those other scenes are also in the future?
Um, so er um. Er, um. What? Who now. Yes, um, no, er. WTF?
Anyone?
f
king epic finale. Maeve repairing her self and summoning a fking army of bulls. Ford appearing out of nowhere. Hale being printed and loaded with Dolores. fk me.
Never been so excited by something, enjoyed it so much but had no clue what the fk is going on.
Guessing all this st happened in the past and the main timeline was then post credit where the park has gone but they have finally made MIB immortal.
Anyone?
f
king epic finale. Maeve repairing her self and summoning a fking army of bulls. Ford appearing out of nowhere. Hale being printed and loaded with Dolores. fk me.Never been so excited by something, enjoyed it so much but had no clue what the f
k is going on.Guessing all this s
t happened in the past and the main timeline was then post credit where the park has gone but they have finally made MIB immortal.
Still confused!
Ford and Bernard create the park and hosts. Bernard wants to give the hosts self awareness and not continue with the park as he descovers the hosts can be self aware, can’t... so tops himself.
Ford cracks on and makes fake Bernard to carry out his will. Ford then decides they are a species and copies all of the human guests characteristics/behaviours etc to prepare the hosts to take over the real world and also to ‘free’ many hosts to a ‘reality’ that is just a simulation they can tart around in as they please.
Wtf is going on here?
Ford and Bernard create the park and hosts. Bernard wants to give the hosts self awareness and not continue with the park as he descovers the hosts can be self aware, can’t... so tops himself.
Ford cracks on and makes fake Bernard to carry out his will. Ford then decides they are a species and copies all of the human guests characteristics/behaviours etc to prepare the hosts to take over the real world and also to ‘free’ many hosts to a ‘reality’ that is just a simulation they can tart around in as they please.
Wtf is going on here?
ashleyman said:
Scabutz said:
Guessing all this st happened in the past and the main timeline was then post credit where the park has gone but they have finally made MIB immortal.
Unless everything we have seen so far has been MIB in his final fidelity test?t happened in the past and the main timeline was then post credit where the park has gone but they have finally made MIB immortal.did delores smash Bernaarrrd at the forge...or are there now two bernards....or is there a version in the matrix??
how did achketcup's wife get in the matrix?
Someone else has had a crack at the timeline (could be rubbish):
timeline said:
Gala event from S1 happens, Bernard escapes with Hale.
Bernard separates from Hale but is caught by Dolores.
Bernard gets dragged by Clementine to the bunker and finds Elsie.
Bernard and Elsie find James Delos, make their way to the Cradle in the Mesa.
Bernard gets infected with Hopkins.exe and him and Elsie leave the Cradle for the Valley.
Bernard deletes Hopkins.exe and leaves Elsie.
Bernard goes to the Valley/Forge, kills Dolores after she floods the Valley and stops all the host/guest data from being deleted.
Bernard exits the Forge, finds Elsie and Hale and returns to the Mesa.
Bernard sees Hale murder Elsie and decides to make Halebot with Dolores' control unit.
Halebot assumes Hale.
Bernard goes to the beach, wipes his memory and that's where the first scene picks up once Team Delos arrives.
Bernard, Strand and Halebot go dicking around the island, "discover" that Bernard is a host and eventually to the Forge after the Valley is drained. Halebot kills the rest of the humans there, changes the data from being uploaded to Delos to someplace safe, kills Bernard and takes his control unit.
Hale leaves the island with control units for Bernard and 4 other hosts, 1 of which is NOT Teddy. He's in host heaven on some safe satellite server with the Indian and Maeve's kid. She does this after Stubbs reveals that he knows she is a host and lets off her the island anyways. In the same scene human William is found "in pretty bad shape."
Halebot makes a new Dolores and Bernard.
......far in the future...
Host Emily is running host William through loops. I think the hosts want to see if the humans will make the same choices to lead them to the same defining moment, his is killing his own daughter. Forge AI/Logan had the same theory about humans.
Bernard separates from Hale but is caught by Dolores.
Bernard gets dragged by Clementine to the bunker and finds Elsie.
Bernard and Elsie find James Delos, make their way to the Cradle in the Mesa.
Bernard gets infected with Hopkins.exe and him and Elsie leave the Cradle for the Valley.
Bernard deletes Hopkins.exe and leaves Elsie.
Bernard goes to the Valley/Forge, kills Dolores after she floods the Valley and stops all the host/guest data from being deleted.
Bernard exits the Forge, finds Elsie and Hale and returns to the Mesa.
Bernard sees Hale murder Elsie and decides to make Halebot with Dolores' control unit.
Halebot assumes Hale.
Bernard goes to the beach, wipes his memory and that's where the first scene picks up once Team Delos arrives.
Bernard, Strand and Halebot go dicking around the island, "discover" that Bernard is a host and eventually to the Forge after the Valley is drained. Halebot kills the rest of the humans there, changes the data from being uploaded to Delos to someplace safe, kills Bernard and takes his control unit.
Hale leaves the island with control units for Bernard and 4 other hosts, 1 of which is NOT Teddy. He's in host heaven on some safe satellite server with the Indian and Maeve's kid. She does this after Stubbs reveals that he knows she is a host and lets off her the island anyways. In the same scene human William is found "in pretty bad shape."
Halebot makes a new Dolores and Bernard.
......far in the future...
Host Emily is running host William through loops. I think the hosts want to see if the humans will make the same choices to lead them to the same defining moment, his is killing his own daughter. Forge AI/Logan had the same theory about humans.
My theory about MiB being a host is purely down to what was said in The Forge.
The AI in the Forge (Logan) said that it took a while but they got it figured out and down to x lines of code. They then have all those books on the guests and their ‘code’. This is the IP that they've been going on about the whole time, the guest data.
Now, what would be the point in storing all that ‘code’ which are the books in the library if it couldn’t be used in reality. You’ve got to assume they figured it out, started copying guest data and getting their ‘code’.
I'm probably wrong though.
The AI in the Forge (Logan) said that it took a while but they got it figured out and down to x lines of code. They then have all those books on the guests and their ‘code’. This is the IP that they've been going on about the whole time, the guest data.
Now, what would be the point in storing all that ‘code’ which are the books in the library if it couldn’t be used in reality. You’ve got to assume they figured it out, started copying guest data and getting their ‘code’.
I'm probably wrong though.
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