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garyhun said:
mikees said:
garyhun said:
It was a pile of two steaming poos!
Come on gary, you have mentioned your builds . Better? I thought those were okIt worked well as an office or storage facility but imo not as a home.
The interiors were a complete disaster however, I agree. Quite how anyone thought it would work is beyond me?
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Of the exterior I think that's a little harsh, they utilised the pond extremely well and blended in with the scenery perfectly without looking out of place on the plot and it's existing vernacular (I hate sounding all GD!).
The interiors were a complete disaster however, I agree. Quite how anyone thought it would work is beyond me?
I'd be interested to see the interior now it has been lived in a bit and without the sympathetic lighting and camera work. I should think it is not a very welcoming place to be. The interiors were a complete disaster however, I agree. Quite how anyone thought it would work is beyond me?
Budget out of the window.
Changing situation of 1 brother delayed his own build and massively increased his cost.
Whilst I'm not a fan of the bare blocks, exposed copper pipes and exposed cable trunking, there's a certain aestethic pleasure from seeing those in their raw content, although I wouldn't / couldn't live in either of the houses!
The "monolithic" fireplace, as i'ts been referred to, blocked a lot of the quality view, didn't it?
Changing situation of 1 brother delayed his own build and massively increased his cost.
Whilst I'm not a fan of the bare blocks, exposed copper pipes and exposed cable trunking, there's a certain aestethic pleasure from seeing those in their raw content, although I wouldn't / couldn't live in either of the houses!
The "monolithic" fireplace, as i'ts been referred to, blocked a lot of the quality view, didn't it?
Well I liked it but then I like the industrial look and have 3 Pure Evil prints on my walls! Also I don’t equate plaster, carpet and soft furnishings with having “soul”
I thought the exterior worked well and linked to the pond really well, and I liked the exposed block work / pipes / concrete / staircases (not a fan of the plywood though), the second house with decent sized kitchen I particularly liked. Placing all the artwork in the floor rather than hanging it was stupid too.
The whole living in each other’s laps, buying identical cars and dogs was a bit weird, but I guess the mentality of identical twins may be different to mine, I’d thought they would want to strive for individuality but they seemed happy and close. The stupidity of their budget was glossed over again
I thought the exterior worked well and linked to the pond really well, and I liked the exposed block work / pipes / concrete / staircases (not a fan of the plywood though), the second house with decent sized kitchen I particularly liked. Placing all the artwork in the floor rather than hanging it was stupid too.
The whole living in each other’s laps, buying identical cars and dogs was a bit weird, but I guess the mentality of identical twins may be different to mine, I’d thought they would want to strive for individuality but they seemed happy and close. The stupidity of their budget was glossed over again
Edited by Adam B on Friday 19th October 08:30
I liked some details - the copper piping was nicely done, though utterly impractical. And it didn't look hideous externally from across the millpond; it actually looked rather nice.
But from the moment Kevin walked inside the first house, it just felt like a fire escape in a 1990s student hall of residence. If you want the blockwork detailing, why not limit it to one feature wall? The stairs were particularly hideous. Maybe the whole lot was built to allow flood water from the dam collapsing to pass through without damage to the houses?
But from the moment Kevin walked inside the first house, it just felt like a fire escape in a 1990s student hall of residence. If you want the blockwork detailing, why not limit it to one feature wall? The stairs were particularly hideous. Maybe the whole lot was built to allow flood water from the dam collapsing to pass through without damage to the houses?
I really don't understand the houses. They did state that they had just moved in hence the pictures etc on the floors.
It seemed the single brother forced his new partner to get in on it to be able to afford the build then added 2 cells for her kids. The houses seemed so cold, it will cost a fortune to heat and you'd have to be wrapped up non stop as it will be cold.
Why have a bath in the bedroom also? If my mrs got in the bath at 6am for work and i was still asleep I'd be pissed. Then you have the fact of your view is into the neighbours house and garden!
Seen as though they have 4 adults and 8 kids between them. 1 car port for each house just wont cut it, lovely forward planning as always.
It would be so awkward if one brother wanted to sell up now as I wouldn't want to be so close to the other one as your basically living together. Nice idea from the brothers but so many floors and things not thought about IMO.
It seemed the single brother forced his new partner to get in on it to be able to afford the build then added 2 cells for her kids. The houses seemed so cold, it will cost a fortune to heat and you'd have to be wrapped up non stop as it will be cold.
Why have a bath in the bedroom also? If my mrs got in the bath at 6am for work and i was still asleep I'd be pissed. Then you have the fact of your view is into the neighbours house and garden!
Seen as though they have 4 adults and 8 kids between them. 1 car port for each house just wont cut it, lovely forward planning as always.
It would be so awkward if one brother wanted to sell up now as I wouldn't want to be so close to the other one as your basically living together. Nice idea from the brothers but so many floors and things not thought about IMO.
Miocene said:
The pictures can't be put on the wall without damaging the blockwork that then can't be repaired / painted like plaster can be.
that's my view and have seen this as a silly "style" thing toothat said most were canvas and frame so pretty light, so you could use some sort of adhesive hook, or a small pin in the mortar
given they ran a gallery and were obviously into their art you'd think they would have considered that
Adam B said:
that's my view and have seen this as a silly "style" thing too
that said most were canvas and frame so pretty light, so you could use some sort of adhesive hook, or a small pin in the mortar
given they ran a gallery and were obviously into their art you'd think they would have considered that
Or pilfer a bit of the wire hanging system that all galleries use...that said most were canvas and frame so pretty light, so you could use some sort of adhesive hook, or a small pin in the mortar
given they ran a gallery and were obviously into their art you'd think they would have considered that
Mark Benson said:
Our architect was the same (on not such a grand scale) - we told him we had a build budget of no more than £100k, and would like (in order to have fixtures and fittings as well as the shell) to come in at £80k for the build.
I was suspicious at his first set of plans so I sent them to a QS mate who told us a basic 'budget' build for what he'd designed would be £150k with no finishes (flooring, tiles etc.) thanks to all the 'architecty st' (his words).
Second set of plans was produced with no architecty st and the quote we've gone with is for £90k - if we'd have gone along with the original design we'd never have finished.
Architect told me afterwards that his job was to show us what we could have so we could choose what we liked - he didn't say that when he handed us the first set of plans with a flourish and told us his vision and all the amazing stuff he'd designed in for us though.....
I've used architects on two occasions and both times this has happened. Having said all the above, they can be a good resource, I'm not down on them as a profession - but they seem to me to design what they think works best as architecture, rather than what you can afford. Sometimes they're right and what they provide can be inspiring, just don't expect v1 of your plans to be possible for your budget or, alternatively tell them your budget is about half what you have.
we used an architect who's design included moving the kitchen (for no real purpose we could see) and was, quite frankly, very disappointing... probably took him 30 minutes to draw it all out. Long story short - he didn't really listen to what we wanted. We spoke to a builder who pretty much said "...don't worry about an architect, I can design it..." so we let him try and bugger me if it wasn't damn near perfect for what we wanted and our tastes (and didn't involve moving the kitch with all that associated cost!!) I was suspicious at his first set of plans so I sent them to a QS mate who told us a basic 'budget' build for what he'd designed would be £150k with no finishes (flooring, tiles etc.) thanks to all the 'architecty st' (his words).
Second set of plans was produced with no architecty st and the quote we've gone with is for £90k - if we'd have gone along with the original design we'd never have finished.
Architect told me afterwards that his job was to show us what we could have so we could choose what we liked - he didn't say that when he handed us the first set of plans with a flourish and told us his vision and all the amazing stuff he'd designed in for us though.....
I've used architects on two occasions and both times this has happened. Having said all the above, they can be a good resource, I'm not down on them as a profession - but they seem to me to design what they think works best as architecture, rather than what you can afford. Sometimes they're right and what they provide can be inspiring, just don't expect v1 of your plans to be possible for your budget or, alternatively tell them your budget is about half what you have.
227bhp said:
Grahamdub said:
V8covin said:
What's stopping the edges of the corrugated sheeting going rusty where they cut it with a grinder ?
I thought that too. Unless that was part of the look.Grahamdub said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
As a small update to the slating the husband is getting on here for being a lazy so and so, in this months edition of GD Magazine it goes on to explain that when the husband was made redundant, as well as looking after the kids he went self employed.
It was this reason the banks wouldn't lend them the money as all wanted 3 years accounts. In the end, to fund the build she went full time, promised the banks her wage would increase after 6 months (which it did but they only released the full funds after that time) and sold off the other land.
For all he's been slated it seems both put their necks and finances on the line and really put in the extra graft to make it happen.
In that case, I retract my slating. Should have included something in the programme to show his side too though.It was this reason the banks wouldn't lend them the money as all wanted 3 years accounts. In the end, to fund the build she went full time, promised the banks her wage would increase after 6 months (which it did but they only released the full funds after that time) and sold off the other land.
For all he's been slated it seems both put their necks and finances on the line and really put in the extra graft to make it happen.
JagBox said:
My thought as well, when did people stop putting pictures on walls........
Maybe they need to get an industrial strength drill to make holes in the warehouse walls?Not a fan of this one, looked like a couple of warehouses overlooking a pool of stagnant water. Very soulless inside, surely the plasters will be in before too long...?
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