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king rank. Laurel Green said:
...and why would the under-slab pipe be left filled with water - utterly bonkers!
I'd hate to try and bleed the system of air once it was under a slab, but I was actually surprised to find that underfloor heating systems are just filled with water. Genuinely expected there would be something more complicated than that.Once more a disappointing GD . Too many unknowns
No explanation of how the roof problem was not foreseen by designers.
Can’t believe the house was scratch built without formal plans .
Surely any architect would have done structural calculations for the overhang.
If it was a design failing then designers should be picking up the tab for the costs of putting it right
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.Then we did not see fully how it was resolved , was the end wall taken down to complete the re enforcing beam ?
What sort of heating , ground/air source, gas, electric ? how efficient ?
Ventilation ?Heat recovery ?
We jumped from shell buildings to fully fitted and complete
Having said that , whatever your taste , the first two houses were fitted to what looked like a high standard .
No explanation of how the roof problem was not foreseen by designers.
Can’t believe the house was scratch built without formal plans .
Surely any architect would have done structural calculations for the overhang.
If it was a design failing then designers should be picking up the tab for the costs of putting it right
.
.Then we did not see fully how it was resolved , was the end wall taken down to complete the re enforcing beam ?
What sort of heating , ground/air source, gas, electric ? how efficient ?
Ventilation ?Heat recovery ?
We jumped from shell buildings to fully fitted and complete
Having said that , whatever your taste , the first two houses were fitted to what looked like a high standard .
Edited by MXRod on Friday 5th April 09:46
Interesting. That bloke made all sorts of promises he later couldn't keep ("Of course I can build two houses at the same time"). When he backed off Lynne's house, she (possibly unreasonably) assumed that he would have used his tools and equipment to help her, and although he now didn't have the time, those tools and equipment were still part of the agreement.
Lynne seemed like a bit of a liability in the early days, and I felt that the other two cooked up a reason to be pissed off with her, so they could stop helping her as promised, but it wouldn't be 'their fault'.
I don't think for a minute that Lynne's various structural issues would have been avoided if they'd all continued to work together (except perhaps for filling the UFH pipes), and it was a shame she got all the problems (and additional cost) when the other two seemed to have calm waters throughout.
There wasn't a lot of design/construction detail in the programme, but evidently that's not what it is about.
Lynne seemed like a bit of a liability in the early days, and I felt that the other two cooked up a reason to be pissed off with her, so they could stop helping her as promised, but it wouldn't be 'their fault'.
I don't think for a minute that Lynne's various structural issues would have been avoided if they'd all continued to work together (except perhaps for filling the UFH pipes), and it was a shame she got all the problems (and additional cost) when the other two seemed to have calm waters throughout.
There wasn't a lot of design/construction detail in the programme, but evidently that's not what it is about.
Evanivitch said:
Laurel Green said:
...and why would the under-slab pipe be left filled with water - utterly bonkers!
I'd hate to try and bleed the system of air once it was under a slab, but I was actually surprised to find that underfloor heating systems are just filled with water. Genuinely expected there would be something more complicated than that.And how many times have we seen blocks rupture when having concrete poured in? Seems incredibly iffy.
The thing that struck me was that the house had a triangular section, and in plan it was skewed. That takes a serious amount of professional calculation to do properly. And all the detailing for the roof/wall junctions is not self-build territory.
I guess the issue with those blocks is that they're made from recycled pallets, so the quality of the base material is probably very variable as is the matrix holding them together. You can't test them all.
I guess the issue with those blocks is that they're made from recycled pallets, so the quality of the base material is probably very variable as is the matrix holding them together. You can't test them all.
Doofus said:
Interesting. That bloke made all sorts of promises he later couldn't keep ("Of course I can build two houses at the same time"). When he backed off Lynne's house, she (possibly unreasonably) assumed that he would have used his tools and equipment to help her, and although he now didn't have the time, those tools and equipment were still part of the agreement.
Lynne seemed like a bit of a liability in the early days, and I felt that the other two cooked up a reason to be pissed off with her, so they could stop helping her as promised, but it wouldn't be 'their fault'.
I don't think for a minute that Lynne's various structural issues would have been avoided if they'd all continued to work together (except perhaps for filling the UFH pipes), and it was a shame she got all the problems (and additional cost) when the other two seemed to have calm waters throughout.
There wasn't a lot of design/construction detail in the programme, but evidently that's not what it is about.
Grand Designs stopped being about the technology and engineering many many years ago. It’s been an entertainment show for a long time.Lynne seemed like a bit of a liability in the early days, and I felt that the other two cooked up a reason to be pissed off with her, so they could stop helping her as promised, but it wouldn't be 'their fault'.
I don't think for a minute that Lynne's various structural issues would have been avoided if they'd all continued to work together (except perhaps for filling the UFH pipes), and it was a shame she got all the problems (and additional cost) when the other two seemed to have calm waters throughout.
There wasn't a lot of design/construction detail in the programme, but evidently that's not what it is about.
To be fair, unless it’s some new radical system and unless you have zero interest in any of this, everything is fairly well understood by even non professionals these days.
speedking31 said:
The thing that struck me was that the house had a triangular section, and in plan it was skewed. That takes a serious amount of professional calculation to do properly. And all the detailing for the roof/wall junctions is not self-build territory.
I guess the issue with those blocks is that they're made from recycled pallets, so the quality of the base material is probably very variable as is the matrix holding them together. You can't test them all.
The blue and white triangular house was designed by an architect here in Oxford. Not sure exactly what the client bought in terms of details and other specialist design but I assume it must have been a pretty complete set of information to satisfy building control etc.I guess the issue with those blocks is that they're made from recycled pallets, so the quality of the base material is probably very variable as is the matrix holding them together. You can't test them all.
All of those houses would have been architect (or architectural designer etc) designed and then had all the necessary building regulations and engineering calculations done by the necessary professionals.
What KM eluded to at the beginning was that these builds did not have to go through the normal planning route. That's very different to saying they had no involvement from architects and engineers which I think some on here are assuming.
What KM eluded to at the beginning was that these builds did not have to go through the normal planning route. That's very different to saying they had no involvement from architects and engineers which I think some on here are assuming.
garyhun said:
Prefer Lynn’s by a country mile but it’s pretty soulless inside imo.
Her’s was nicer in the end but I didn’t really like either of them. The inside of the couple’s house was dire imho.Lynn was quite an annoying person but I think the couple treated her badly as it was obvious she would need help to build a house on her own.
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