Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

[Halb]

THanks all, I think my best shot was as the SmallJon, but we'll see.

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Anyhoo, news on the prequel.
http://watchersonthewall.com/writer-bryan-cogman-d...

[Shakermaker]

Halb said:

I've been put forward for something.

I have no idea how the show will end. I'll guess Jon dies, I reckon Sandra will survive in the NOrth Cersei will die. In the books I'd guess at an agreement with the Walkers to go back North.

why are you always calling her Sandra? Did I miss a joke, or is this your auto-correct failing at keeping up with current trends?

[Zetec-S]

Guvernator said:

Oh and I'd really prefer it if Cersei died a gruesome death, although knowing this show it's just as likely she'll end up the only survivor sitting on the Iron Throne with her baby.

Anyone else think her baby will turn out to be a dwarf?

[Bullett]

All babies are quite small, they are famous for it.

[Disastrous]

Halb said:

THanks all, I think my best shot was as the SmallJon, but we'll see.

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Anyhoo, news on the prequel.
http://watchersonthewall.com/writer-bryan-cogman-d...

Break a leg anyway!

[Zetec-S]

Bullett said:

All babies are quite small, they are famous for it.

[Mastiff]

Zetec-S said:

Bullett said:

All babies are quite small, they are famous for it.

Have another..

[Ayahuasca]

So the wildling finally got Jon Snow.

[Mothersruin]

Ayahuasca said:

So the wildling finally got Jon Snow.

He doesn't know yet.

[Guvernator]

Those complaining about the pacing and shortening on the last season or so might find this amusing.



The map shows the distance Jon Snow has traveled compared to the walkers in the same amount of time. Either Snow has some sort of teleportation device we don't know about or the army of the dead need to rename themselves to Slow Walkers.

[JamieBeeston]

Guvernator said:

Those complaining about the pacing and shortening on the last season or so might find this amusing.



The map shows the distance Jon Snow has traveled compared to the walkers in the same amount of time. Either Snow has some sort of teleportation device we don't know about or the army of the dead need to rename themselves to Slow Walkers.

Why? The army of the dead was in no rush, it had nothing to do except wait until the Dragon finally came up north, as such it had literally nowhere to go, so just chilled out!

[Halb]

THe Walkers are an interesting bunch, they've been amassing for years, I guess so long as winter hadn't come, and the wall existed there was no reason for them to come within view of the wall.

[Guvernator]

Sorry I don't buy that. Every time we see them they are walking, I can probably count half a dozen endings to episodes where they are all seen clearly walking south.

Secondly what their whole plan to get past the wall was to bet on the very unlikely event that a dragon would come up North, they'd be able to kill it, resurrect it and use it to destroy the wall? How did they even know the dragons existed? No one else did at the time so their whole plan was to just keep walking around in circles and wait for Jon and his parties ill advised raid and then hope that Danny's dragons where actually real and she turns up to save them?

All seems a bit too neat, what was their plan B?

[Disastrous]

I’ve just realised how much I hate dragons and zombies and magic!

GoT has been well cunning here - it sucked me in with intrigue and violence and human machinations (and tits) and then tricked me into watching lord of the rings without me noticing!

Now that I think about it, even when they first introduced the dragons, they filled the screen with a giant naked woman in a fire so I didn’t spot them at the time.

Now it’s all just ridiculous flying dragons, stupid snow zombies and teleporting heroes. I miss the first few series

[Ructions]

Guvernator said:

All seems a bit too neat, what was their plan B?

Jurgen Klopp is the Night’s King, there is no plan B.

[Guvernator]

Ructions said:

Guvernator said:

All seems a bit too neat, what was their plan B?

Jurgen Klopp is the Night’s King, there is no plan B.

For all Jon's fretting about the Walkers they seemed to keep forgetting that their was a big fk of magical ice wall filled with traps in the way that had stopped them for a thousand years. Surely the way to go would have been to just man the wall with as many men as they could gather and leave the dragons at home or only to be used as a last resort. Wouldn't have even needed to go begging to Cersie IMO. For all his battle prowess, Jon's not very bright.

[4x4Tyke]

Guvernator said:

All seems a bit too neat, what was their plan B?

I think Plan A was to go around the wall over the frozen sea.

[Halb]

Guvernator said:

Sorry I don't buy that. Every time we see them they are walking, I can probably count half a dozen endings to episodes where they are all seen clearly walking south.

Secondly what their whole plan to get past the wall was to bet on the very unlikely event that a dragon would come up North, they'd be able to kill it, resurrect it and use it to destroy the wall? How did they even know the dragons existed? No one else did at the time so their whole plan was to just keep walking around in circles and wait for Jon and his parties ill advised raid and then hope that Danny's dragons where actually real and she turns up to save them?

All seems a bit too neat, what was their plan B?

Well they seem to be long-lived, immortal? So years amassing isn't anything, it took Mance Rayder a few years to coalesce all the tribes, in reaction to the WWs moving, so they've been prepping for a good while, but without the advent of winter, there's little point going south, I doubt they've been marching south everytime.
The WW had two wights on CB doorstop on day one to kill Jeor, still makes me wonder why he/they did that.
I reckon plan A was to cross the frozen sea, but maybe he flipped plans and decided to steal a dragon when they came back at the end of book 1?

[Halb]

Disastrous said:

I’ve just realised how much I hate dragons and zombies and magic!

GoT has been well cunning here - it sucked me in with intrigue and violence and human machinations (and tits) and then tricked me into watching lord of the rings without me noticing!

Now that I think about it, even when they first introduced the dragons, they filled the screen with a giant naked woman in a fire so I didn’t spot them at the time.

Now it’s all just ridiculous flying dragons, stupid snow zombies and teleporting heroes. I miss the first few series

They are cunning.
If LotR adaptation had been as faithful as GoT first series, you'd have liked that too.

I still think the stories of the first men by Tolkien would make an amazing HBO/Netflix series.

[JamieBeeston]

Halb said:

Guvernator said:

Sorry I don't buy that. Every time we see them they are walking, I can probably count half a dozen endings to episodes where they are all seen clearly walking south.

Secondly what their whole plan to get past the wall was to bet on the very unlikely event that a dragon would come up North, they'd be able to kill it, resurrect it and use it to destroy the wall? How did they even know the dragons existed? No one else did at the time so their whole plan was to just keep walking around in circles and wait for Jon and his parties ill advised raid and then hope that Danny's dragons where actually real and she turns up to save them?

All seems a bit too neat, what was their plan B?

Well they seem to be long-lived, immortal? So years amassing isn't anything, it took Mance Rayder a few years to coalesce all the tribes, in reaction to the WWs moving, so they've been prepping for a good while, but without the advent of winter, there's little point going south, I doubt they've been marching south everytime.
The WW had two wights on CB doorstop on day one to kill Jeor, still makes me wonder why he/they did that.
I reckon plan A was to cross the frozen sea, but maybe he flipped plans and decided to steal a dragon when they came back at the end of book 1?

Or, the Night King knew exactly when, and where, a dragon would be, and simple waited for that event to happen, almost like he was from the future

Granted, if things don't pan out to support that theory, then yes, it makes a little less sense