Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS

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FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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These are always good, the series 7 Pixomondo VFX effects reel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCc7uL_uYlQ

more here - https://vimeo.com/231693022
and here - https://vimeo.com/268395774

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Saturday 21st July 18:00

CharlieH89

9,079 posts

165 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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Halb said:
I haven't lost all of my interest for this, but a large portion of it. S7 was woeful, I mean, really bad retconning and ignoring the world the programme had built up for 7 years. I have a feeling this 7a/8 will be 50% entertainment 50% irritating
Just watched S1 to S7 again and I can’t believe they created S7 like that. It was like they were told to film it as quick as possible.
Series 1 to 6 there was buildup, some filler. Series 7 just bang! This has happened. That has happened.
The lads get stuck with the army of the undead, Gendry happens to be able to run to Eastwatch was it? Crows are able to get word to Dany and she turns up just in time.
Just pure bullst after the show had been so carefully crafted the previous 6 seasons.

I’ve got a feeling S8 will be similar.

The Hound is the best character in the show though. fking love him.

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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CharlieH89 said:
Just watched S1 to S7 again and I can’t believe they created S7 like that. It was like they were told to film it as quick as possible.
Series 1 to 6 there was buildup, some filler. Series 7 just bang! This has happened. That has happened.
The lads get stuck with the army of the undead, Gendry happens to be able to run to Eastwatch was it? Crows are able to get word to Dany and she turns up just in time.
Just pure bullst after the show had been so carefully crafted the previous 6 seasons.

I’ve got a feeling S8 will be similar.

The Hound is the best character in the show though. fking love him.
yeah, it's like GoT had bene written by a child; x happens, so y happens, so b happens...forget about time/history/character etc.
ONe can tell that D&D really wanna leave Ireland. biggrin

THey're showing the top ten eps this week, the difference is bludgeoning

Durzel

12,266 posts

168 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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S7 was the first one where it went past the books, isn't it?

That would be why it is more like a weekly TV show than something with the slow burning ambition of a book.

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/finale-shot-but... but some relevant stuff as it's a pay wall.

HBO has gone to extreme lengths to prevent any leaks. Multiple endings were filmed, It is therefore difficult to read too much into rumours that there were two actors in the penultimate day’s shooting, and a single actor in the last scene.

Maise Williams, hinted that her character had avenged the death of her father, and would survive.

Smoke was seen belching out of the set in Belfast in the final weeks of filming, leading to speculation that King’s Landing, capital of the Seven Kingdoms, is razed to the ground.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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Bullett said:
Maise Williams, hinted that her character had avenged the death of her father, and would survive.
she already did that, in series 7.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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so the top ep is the battle of the bds

I would have had The Rains of Castamere and Baelor as my top two, at least one made it

Guvernator

13,155 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Why all the hate for S7? OK it wasn't as slow burn as the other seasons but we are coming to the end of the show and they have an awful lot to wrap up. I actually didn't mind the faster pace, yes some of the flitting around left a bit to be desired but we've already done the travel from here to there, talking around campfires and taking about 10 episodes to get anywhere over and over already in this show. It's time for the pay-off to a lot of things that have been building for 7 seasons so I don't mind if they actually start to skip over yet another long road trip a bit and get on with it now. A not so fantastic but still great season of GoT is better than 95% of stuff on telly.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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S7 was pretty poor, the main reasons budget still the same actors wages have increased so over stuff was done on the cheap. There were massive plot holes and is just didn't feel as refined a and fresh as previous seasons.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Gaz. said:
The Greatest Moments shows that there are some truly great actors working on this series. Almost all of them have different mother accents to their characters & entirely different mannerisms - it's nice to see actors actually act rather than just turn up and read lines like Hugh Grant/Tom Cruise/Halle Berry.

The other thing that I like is that all the past actors are still super-fans of the show, Meryn Trant especially so.

I was hoping they would reboot S7, it was fking dire.
Personally I think accent work is just technical thing, but I agree that there's some good actors in GoT, the style is realistic chit-chat...with some tiny exceptions. There probbaly aren't more than two performances that I think don't work. Famously though,STannis Baratheon hadn't a clue about his charcters motivations and never knew what he was thinking. A lot of the small roles were given to locals so the Northern Irish as a genuine accent. Somebody did speak in the show whom I was surprised at though, didn't know they were Norn Iron.
The show made Trant, so I'm not surprised he loves it. But when you work on a thing, you do tend to love it.
Agree on S7, at least s8 will be over quickly, I'm not even missing it this year

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Blame Sean Bean for the accent thing.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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for ever accent ever!

Sway

26,275 posts

194 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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The tale of Littlefinger, and his ever changing accent...

paulrockliffe

15,702 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Halb said:
Bullett said:
Maise Williams, hinted that her character had avenged the death of her father, and would survive.
she already did that, in series 7.
That was her mother and brother. Cersei was responsible for Sean Bean's demise.

It's fundamental to her character's story that she finishes Cersei off. I can see that they'll probably fk that up like everything else, but she needs to be the one to do it.

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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paulrockliffe said:
Halb said:
Bullett said:
Maise Williams, hinted that her character had avenged the death of her father, and would survive.
she already did that, in series 7.
That was her mother and brother. Cersei was responsible for Sean Bean's demise.

It's fundamental to her character's story that she finishes Cersei off. I can see that they'll probably fk that up like everything else, but she needs to be the one to do it.
She killed Littlefinger in series 7, it was his treachery that got Ned dead.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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paulrockliffe said:
That was her mother and brother. Cersei was responsible for Sean Bean's demise.
As said above, it was LF, if you watch Baelor, Cersei rushes towards Joffrey surprised and most likely pissed off. Cersei still wanted Jaime back, back then.

JagLover

42,406 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Durzel said:
S7 was the first one where it went past the books, isn't it?

That would be why it is more like a weekly TV show than something with the slow burning ambition of a book.
Technically S7 was the first one where they were both past the books and had resolved the storylines set up by the books. Very little of S6 was in the books, but most of the story lines could reasonably be implied from them.

JagLover

42,406 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Guvernator said:
Why all the hate for S7? OK it wasn't as slow burn as the other seasons but we are coming to the end of the show and they have an awful lot to wrap up. I actually didn't mind the faster pace, yes some of the flitting around left a bit to be desired but we've already done the travel from here to there, talking around campfires and taking about 10 episodes to get anywhere over and over already in this show. It's time for the pay-off to a lot of things that have been building for 7 seasons so I don't mind if they actually start to skip over yet another long road trip a bit and get on with it now. A not so fantastic but still great season of GoT is better than 95% of stuff on telly.
Because after the mid way point it made no sense. Stuff just happens with no proper narrative logic.

It was rushed, but still made narrative sense, until just after the field of fire. From then on it was shockingly bad writing, just still with great production values and some good actors.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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JagLover said:
Because after the mid way point it made no sense. Stuff just happens with no proper narrative logic.

It was rushed, but still made narrative sense, until just after the field of fire. From then on it was shockingly bad writing, just still with great production values and some good actors.
THat's it. ONce the show was free of the legacy storylines, stuff 'just happened', to suit the plot or just be cool. The Vale army turning up in the North within 10 minutes of when they're needed, a thousand miles away, guess the Twins weren't important anymore, or the fact that the Boltons held Moat Cailin, and there were twenty other examples, the show lost all internal logic. It was really disappointing.

JagLover

42,406 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Halb said:
THat's it. ONce the show was free of the legacy storylines, stuff 'just happened', to suit the plot or just be cool. The Vale army turning up in the North within 10 minutes of when they're needed, a thousand miles away, guess the Twins weren't important anymore, or the fact that the Boltons held Moat Cailin, and there were twenty other examples, the show lost all internal logic. It was really disappointing.
Very disappointing, even more so as this is the only likely way we will see the end of the story.

This isn't intended as a massive rant at the show runners. They, and the other writers that helped them, were very good at adaptation. Unfortunately it seems to be clear now that all GRRM gave them was a few crumbs of information, like Shireen or "hold the door".

They didn't have nearly enough information to create a coherent narrative and not enough ability to create their own. .