Dunkirk - Christopher Nolan film

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tdm34

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210 months

Saturday 6th August 2016
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Eric Mc said:
tdm34 said:
George Chakiris wasn't in "Operation Crossbow"

He was in "633 Squadron"
Correct. I was getting my 1960s schlocky war films mixed up.
Were the the actors were more wooden than the aircraft.... wink

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th August 2016
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Elroy Blue said:
nicanary said:
Empire of the Sun? 29 years ago.......
I suddenly feel old. Cracking film though.
P51! Cadillac of the Sky!
Just wondering - where would those P51s have been based? Surely any fighter would have been flown off a carrier? Or did Mustangs fly from Chinese bases further inland?

Elroy Blue

8,688 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th August 2016
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Mustangs were flying over Japan on a regular basis at the end of the war. Once they captured the islands around Japan, the mainland was in range. Long missions with a single engine. I bet they listened for every unusual noise.

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Saturday 6th August 2016
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Elroy Blue said:
nicanary said:
Empire of the Sun? 29 years ago.......
I suddenly feel old. Cracking film though.
Me too, I was at schol with 'Batman' when he made it...

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Saturday 6th August 2016
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Elroy Blue said:
Mustangs were flying over Japan on a regular basis at the end of the war. Once they captured the islands around Japan, the mainland was in range. Long missions with a single engine. I bet they listened for every unusual noise.
Although the prison camps in "Empire of the Sun" were in China - near Shanghai.

Although they used P-51s in the film, at the time it would just as likely have been P-40s as they were used a lot in the Far East by the USAAF.

Beati Dogu

8,891 posts

139 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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My great uncle was a professional soldier before the war in the Lancashire Fusiliers and had been posted to China amongst other places. He was part of the BEF and the family received official notice that he was missing following the retreat to Dunkirk. He did manage to make it back somehow and would later fight in North Africa and Italy. Having gone through all that and surviving the war, he died in his early 40s from complications following a gall bladder operation. frown

nicanary said:
Just wondering - where would those P51s have been based? Surely any fighter would have been flown off a carrier? Or did Mustangs fly from Chinese bases further inland?
They were operating within China. The raid depicted was flown from Suichwan airfield by the 118th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron, which still exists and is part of the Connecticut National Guard. At the time they were part of the 23rd Fighter Group (the famous "Flying Tigers"), 14th Air Force, which operated in India and China in support of the Chinese fight against the Japanese.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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Just had a look at their history on Wiki. They replaced their P-40s with P-51s at the end of 1943 - so by the time these camps were liberated they would have been flying Mustangs.

Some of the aircraft used by the 23rd during World War 2 -




anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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PSA.......The 1958 original is on ITV4 now...

Mr Snrub

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227 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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They should remake this film with an all women cast, one of whom is black and brought along because she knows the beaches

ali_kat

31,989 posts

221 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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Saw the trailer yesterday whilst waiting to see SS

It brought a couple of tears and it was only a few seconds of film...

Elroy Blue

8,688 posts

192 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Although the prison camps in "Empire of the Sun" were in China - near Shanghai.

Although they used P-51s in the film, at the time it would just as likely have been P-40s as they were used a lot in the Far East by the USAAF.
Good point well made. It's been such a long time since I've seen the film. In fact I feel the need to seek it out

slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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Mr Snrub said:
They should remake this film with an all women cast, one of whom is black and brought along because she knows the beaches
ghost busters reference?

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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slipstream 1985 said:
Mr Snrub said:
They should remake this film with an all women cast, one of whom is black and brought along because she knows the beaches
ghost busters reference?
They could have Bette Midler singing to the troops.

Beati Dogu

8,891 posts

139 months

Sunday 7th August 2016
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Incidentally, Dame Vera Lynn is still hanging on in there I'm happy to say. She's 99 now.

Also 99 is Empire of the Sun director Steven Spielberg's father, Arnold. During the war he was a radio operator / gunner on B-25 Mitchell aircraft based in the China-Burma-India Theatre of Operations. An interesting man in his own right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Spielberg

Edited by Beati Dogu on Sunday 7th August 23:56

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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They had a teaser for this ahead of Suicide Squad, just a minute or so long, a load of soldiers on a landing craft, and then they all look up as you hear the noise of an aircraft coming towards them at high speed.

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Shakermaker said:
They had a teaser for this ahead of Suicide Squad, just a minute or so long, a load of soldiers on a landing craft, and then they all look up as you hear the noise of an aircraft coming towards them at high speed.
That sounds like part of the trailer. They're actually standing on one of the "moles" otherwise know as jetties, and the aircraft are Stukas which are aboout to sink the destroyer which they were planning to board.

My (adult) daughter watched the trailer and asked me what the dead whales were doing on the beach. The "whales" were dead soldiers covered in their greatcoats.

RC1807

12,532 posts

168 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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TEKNOPUG said:
I see that Harry Styles is in it.......
- rather a shame then that they had to use dummy bullets in the filming.
Opportunities.
Missed.
And all that. wink

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Anyone else noticed the fuss about the smirking extra in the trailer?

I didn't notice him. However, when I checked online for info about the film, there were a few sites pointing him out.

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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TheTrash said:
It'll be great, but there'll be the usual PH experts saying the sound levels are wrong or there was too much CGI, etc.
Nolan often uses loads of models and creates effects "in camera" rather than CGI so I've got high hopes for this!

Beati Dogu

8,891 posts

139 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Yes, he's not that hot on CGI for its own sake.

The Star Wars prequels show how bad it can be when it's used gratuitously as a substitute for a story. The Hobbit as well.