The James Bond Thread

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FerdiZ28

1,355 posts

134 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Movies

1) View to a kill
2) Live and let die
3) Casino Royale (Craig)

Cars

1) DB5
2) Z8
3) Audi 200

Girls

1) Maria Grazia Cucinotta
2) Britt Eckland
3) Lana Wood

Themes

1) View to a kill
2) You know my name
3) Man with the golden gun

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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SpudLink said:
Can I speak in defence of Die Another Day?
I won’t deny there are things in it which are irredeemably terrible. Too many to list.
But it has a decent pre-credits opening. Bond being tortured for months during the opening credits was certainly something different. In the past he’s always escaped impossible situations. MI6 reluctantly doing the prisoner exchange was also interesting.
Brosnan had settled into the roll quit well by this point. It’s not his fault they gave him Halle Berry and a rubbish script to work with.
Gustav Graves wasn’t a bad idea for the main villain. North Korean playboy with a love of the high life.
And the film was full of 40th anniversary references, which were mildly entertaining at the time.

I’m not saying it’s any good. But even the worst of them have something I like.
Yes, even the worst (Moonraker) have great saving graces.
the best thing about the Brosnan bonds were the cold opens. If only they had made films from them!
My fave is probably the TND one.


wjb

5,100 posts

131 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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SpudLink said:
Can I speak in defence of Die Another Day?
I won’t deny there are things in it which are irredeemably terrible. Too many to list.
But it has a decent pre-credits opening. Bond being tortured for months during the opening credits was certainly something different. In the past he’s always escaped impossible situations. MI6 reluctantly doing the prisoner exchange was also interesting.

I’m not saying it’s any good. But even the worst of them have something I like.
Agreed, Die another Day had a great intro sequence, in fact the first half hour is quite promising.

I liked the song, Rosamund Pike & Halle Berry, and who doesn't like an AM Vanquish?

Love the VR scene as well.

https://youtu.be/dfHmKXUu010


SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

81 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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5pen said:
counterofbeans said:
SCEtoAUX said:
I've probably posted different answers earlier in the thread knowing me, but right now it's:

Movies
1. Moonraker
2. Spy Who Loved Me
3. Octopussy
Edited by SCEtoAUX on Monday 7th May 10:11
Astonishing. I couldn't even watch those films with a straight face - unless you think that Bond films are/should be comedies?
Agreed. If I were asked to named the worst of Bond, Octopussy and Moonraker would be my first thoughts along with Die Another Day perhaps.
Not comedies as such, but I do like the comedy moments. And I'm a space nut so Moonraker has to be in there.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Here's a list, it's constantly in flux and changes in quantums.

Films:
OHMSS
For Your Eyes Only dahlink
Goldfinger

Fight:
Red Grant v Bond
Oddjob v Bond
milkaman v footman

Top Stunt:
running on crocodiles
twilt-a-whirl bridge jump
parachute jump


Top lines:
You appear with the tedious inevitability of an unloved season
Names is for tombstones baby!
Red win with fhish, well that shhouhld have told me shomhething

Cars:
white lotus esprit
mustang
vantage

Sidekick:
Teresa di Vicenzo
Jack Wade
Pam Bouvier

Big Bad:
Hugo Drax
Goldfinger
Scaramanga

Hench:
Oddjob
Tee Hee
Red Grant

Girls:
Anya Amasova
Stacey Sutton
Christmas Jones
Pam Bouvier

feem toon:
Nobody Does it Better
Live and Let Die
Goldfinger
The Living Daylights

Muzzer79

9,932 posts

187 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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SpudLink said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Can I recommend the Smershpod podcast for everyone on this thread?
I’ll give it a go.


Can I speak in defence of Die Another Day?
I won’t deny there are things in it which are irredeemably terrible. Too many to list.
But it has a decent pre-credits opening. Bond being tortured for months during the opening credits was certainly something different. In the past he’s always escaped impossible situations. MI6 reluctantly doing the prisoner exchange was also interesting.
Brosnan had settled into the roll quit well by this point. It’s not his fault they gave him Halle Berry and a rubbish script to work with.
Gustav Graves wasn’t a bad idea for the main villain. North Korean playboy with a love of the high life.
And the film was full of 40th anniversary references, which were mildly entertaining at the time.

I’m not saying it’s any good. But even the worst of them have something I like.
There is little defence of Die Another Day and I’m a huge Bond fan

Pierce was too old
Rosamund Pike was terrible
John Cleese as Q was a joke that went one film too far
The 40th anniversary stuff is cringey
Gustav Graves is THE most melodramatic baddie in the series and totally over-played
Halle Berry was wooden
An invisible car? Seriously?
Then there’s the obvious special effects issues after that crap rocket sled thing
Madonna

Diamond-face bloke wasn’t too bad and I liked the idea of giving the bad guy’s car some gadgets but it’s a complete wonder how they got from that to casino royale in 4 short years

Zad

12,698 posts

236 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Sometimes it takes an absolute stinker to make the owners sit up and realise what has happened. Think what happened to the Ford Escort and the Focus.

AJB88

12,399 posts

171 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Zad said:
Sometimes it takes an absolute stinker to make the owners sit up and realise what has happened. Think what happened to the Ford Escort and the Focus.
Die Another Day .... Casino Royale

worlds apart in everything.

droopsnoot

11,923 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Zad said:
Sometimes it takes an absolute stinker to make the owners sit up and realise what has happened. Think what happened to the Ford Escort and the Focus.
There was a conscious effort to come back from "Bond in Space" and make the next one as traditional as possible.

I also enjoy any of them, although I must say I don't really like the Connery films. I'm not a massive fan of films of that age, and my first Bond film was "Live and Let Die", so that makes a difference too. When they're frequently on the TV, I'm more likely to watch one of them if it's Roger Moore or later.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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FerdiZ28 said:
Themes

1) View to a kill
2) You know my name
3) Man with the golden gun
You are mad. Terrible music, terrible singer, terrible lyrics. "Who will he bang...?"

That you rated it above Diamonds are Forever (guff movie but theme sets the bar IMO) tells me you have cloth ears.

wink

Halmyre

11,188 posts

139 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Zad said:
Sometimes it takes an absolute stinker to make the owners sit up and realise what has happened. Think what happened to the Ford Escort and the Focus.
Or 'The Man With The Golden Gun' and 'The Spy Who Loved Me'. I read somewhere that the former was so badly received that MGM considered abandoning the franchise.

DAD is fine up until about the halfway point then it all goes down the drain - invisible cars, CGI surfing, Halle Berry overkill...

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Halmyre said:
Halle Berry overkill...
They were priming her for a spin-off franchise with the character, apparently.

Cotty

39,529 posts

284 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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SpudLink said:
Can I speak in defence of Die Another Day?
I won’t deny there are things in it which are irredeemably terrible. Too many to list.
But it has a decent pre-credits opening. Bond being tortured for months during the opening credits was certainly something different. In the past he’s always escaped impossible situations. MI6 reluctantly doing the prisoner exchange was also interesting.
Brosnan had settled into the roll quit well by this point. It’s not his fault they gave him Halle Berry and a rubbish script to work with.
Gustav Graves wasn’t a bad idea for the main villain. North Korean playboy with a love of the high life.
And the film was full of 40th anniversary references, which were mildly entertaining at the time.

I’m not saying it’s any good. But even the worst of them have something I like.
I have just realised he was Captain Flint in Black Sails
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375692/characters/nm...

I did like the sword fight even if it was a bit over the top, but then it is a Bond Film its supposed to be a bit over the top.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Cotty said:
SpudLink said:
Can I speak in defence of Die Another Day?
I won’t deny there are things in it which are irredeemably terrible. Too many to list.
But it has a decent pre-credits opening. Bond being tortured for months during the opening credits was certainly something different. In the past he’s always escaped impossible situations. MI6 reluctantly doing the prisoner exchange was also interesting.
Brosnan had settled into the roll quit well by this point. It’s not his fault they gave him Halle Berry and a rubbish script to work with.
Gustav Graves wasn’t a bad idea for the main villain. North Korean playboy with a love of the high life.
And the film was full of 40th anniversary references, which were mildly entertaining at the time.

I’m not saying it’s any good. But even the worst of them have something I like.
I have just realised he was Captain Flint in Black Sails
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375692/characters/nm...

I did like the sword fight even if it was a bit over the top, but then it is a Bond Film its supposed to be a bit over the top.
Also the lead in the comedy cop show 'Vexed'.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Ayahuasca said:
Also the lead in the comedy cop show 'Vexed'.
Also the voice of Bond in the Radio 4 plays of the original stories.

Edited by r11co on Tuesday 29th May 18:09

StevieBee

12,875 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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AJB88 said:
had abit of a binge the other day on all the Daniel Craig films and all the Pierce Brosnan ones. Die Another Day is terrible! Goldeneye a masterpiece.

Going to start with Sean's movies tomorrow again.
Do you happen to live in a caravan with a Ukrainian girlfriend in Norfolk, by any chance?

FourWheelDrift

88,504 posts

284 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Stop getting Bond wrong!

texaxile

3,290 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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StevieBee said:
Do you happen to live in a caravan with a Ukrainian girlfriend in Norfolk, by any chance?
hehe

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

The Hypno-Toad

12,280 posts

205 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Halb said:
The trouble is now when I see that I just think, "I'm Mr Meeseeks! LOOK AT ME!"