The James Bond Thread
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James Bond is not unique in the advertising opportunities it creates with the partners but is the most successful. In the past, they have turned a profit on making the movie before anyone has seen it even with massive budgets. Daniel Craig can demand $50M per film because the production company have already guaranteed to cover his cost and anything from the ticket sales is profit.
This time, they are carrying massive commitments to Omega etc and have no way of delivering unless they find another avenue to get the film to their audience. But, Neflix "only" has 200M subscribers so the potential reach is significantly reduced. If you look at it by geography, the most coveted market is China where Netflix is not dominant. The worlds #2 and #3 streaming services are both Chinese and I am very sure Land Rover and Omega want visibility in China that Netflix does not offer. The other major film that sold to streaming was Coming 2 America but their advertisers supported the move to sell to Amazon. I am not sure James Bond's will be so keen.
This time, they are carrying massive commitments to Omega etc and have no way of delivering unless they find another avenue to get the film to their audience. But, Neflix "only" has 200M subscribers so the potential reach is significantly reduced. If you look at it by geography, the most coveted market is China where Netflix is not dominant. The worlds #2 and #3 streaming services are both Chinese and I am very sure Land Rover and Omega want visibility in China that Netflix does not offer. The other major film that sold to streaming was Coming 2 America but their advertisers supported the move to sell to Amazon. I am not sure James Bond's will be so keen.
h0b0 said:
James Bond is not unique in the advertising opportunities it creates with the partners but is the most successful. In the past, they have turned a profit on making the movie before anyone has seen it even with massive budgets. Daniel Craig can demand $50M per film because the production company have already guaranteed to cover his cost and anything from the ticket sales is profit.
This time, they are carrying massive commitments to Omega etc and have no way of delivering unless they find another avenue to get the film to their audience. But, Neflix "only" has 200M subscribers so the potential reach is significantly reduced. If you look at it by geography, the most coveted market is China where Netflix is not dominant. The worlds #2 and #3 streaming services are both Chinese and I am very sure Land Rover and Omega want visibility in China that Netflix does not offer. The other major film that sold to streaming was Coming 2 America but their advertisers supported the move to sell to Amazon. I am not sure James Bond's will be so keen.
I think the biggest issue is probably going to be that all the major digital content service providers are going to want the cachet of having an exclusive, but as a consumer there is a finite number of services you can realistically afford to subscribe to, and it's unlikely that you are going to subscribe to a service just to see one film. This time, they are carrying massive commitments to Omega etc and have no way of delivering unless they find another avenue to get the film to their audience. But, Neflix "only" has 200M subscribers so the potential reach is significantly reduced. If you look at it by geography, the most coveted market is China where Netflix is not dominant. The worlds #2 and #3 streaming services are both Chinese and I am very sure Land Rover and Omega want visibility in China that Netflix does not offer. The other major film that sold to streaming was Coming 2 America but their advertisers supported the move to sell to Amazon. I am not sure James Bond's will be so keen.
This fragmentation of the digital market is a real problem for me as if I did want to see this film (bearing in mind that I still haven't got round to watching Spectre yet, despite owning it on DVD) then the distributor are going to have to make it easy for me to do so (as in, allowing me to make a one-off purchase on a platform that I already have access to). And I can't see that being DVD/Bluray as I don't think they are going to want the stigma of it being a "straight to DVD" film.
h0b0 said:
No time to die is being shopped around to streaming services
$600M would be a big step down from the $1.1B that Spectre made in the cinemas.
They might have dodged this particular bullet for now but you really want to own a cinema chain at this time.$600M would be a big step down from the $1.1B that Spectre made in the cinemas.
The business changes within the film industry are going to be fascinating over the next 5 years. Even without covid change was coming but now literally everything is up for grabs.
In many ways streaming is like Hollywood in the pre-blockbuster era when studios would make lots of relatively modest budget films and hope something hit and had a long theatrical run. With the shift to blockbusters studios started making fewer and fewer ever more expensive films with huge marketing behind them to have a blockbuster hit. The huge marketing and wide opening of blockbusters made opening weekend box office increasingly important unlike the old model when a film could run in cinemas for months.
Everything wrong with Goldeneye - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWUx1cfDgU
When you remember where he started the film on top of a dam and just went down from there into the base, which is on the top of a mountain.
When you remember where he started the film on top of a dam and just went down from there into the base, which is on the top of a mountain.
Amusingly, a chap in Coventry has started a crowfunding page to buy the rights to No Time To Die from MGM. The logic is that its value has been ascertained by the recent attempt to sell to streaming services.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/28/no-ti...
The article suggests that at time of writing the funding has raised £15.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/28/no-ti...
The article suggests that at time of writing the funding has raised £15.
FourWheelDrift said:
Everything wrong with Goldeneye - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWUx1cfDgU
When you remember where he started the film on top of a dam and just went down from there into the base, which is on the top of a mountain.
You utter, UTTER bast@rd - I can't unsee that nowWhen you remember where he started the film on top of a dam and just went down from there into the base, which is on the top of a mountain.
Cold said:
Amusingly, a chap in Coventry has started a crowfunding page to buy the rights to No Time To Die from MGM. The logic is that its value has been ascertained by the recent attempt to sell to streaming services.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/28/no-ti...
The article suggests that at time of writing the funding has raised £15.
£15 and not a penny morehttps://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/28/no-ti...
The article suggests that at time of writing the funding has raised £15.
Cold said:
Amusingly, a chap in Coventry has started a crowfunding page to buy the rights to No Time To Die from MGM. The logic is that its value has been ascertained by the recent attempt to sell to streaming services.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/28/no-ti...
The article suggests that at time of writing the funding has raised £15.
Should have drafted in Sir Tom to walk for Bond.https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/28/no-ti...
The article suggests that at time of writing the funding has raised £15.
t year. 
Sad news, heard about his passing this afternoon. 90 is a bloody good age considering most of us plebs will never get to that age. We all like to mourn of our on screen heroes and role models (or as I prefer to call them lifetime actors), but we seem to forget that, at the end of the day we don't really know them only what their official bios etc tell us, and what we hear, see or read is quite often the opposite.
Like many I grew up first watching the Connery Bond's. When I was young me and my brother used to pronounce Connery as Connry for some reason lol. I bet he's glad he won't have to live through the rest of what's to come with this scamdemic and all the fascism that's coming our way.
I bet Bond fanatic Calvin Dyson will be doing a Connery tribute video soon.
Like many I grew up first watching the Connery Bond's. When I was young me and my brother used to pronounce Connery as Connry for some reason lol. I bet he's glad he won't have to live through the rest of what's to come with this scamdemic and all the fascism that's coming our way.
I bet Bond fanatic Calvin Dyson will be doing a Connery tribute video soon.
Edited by Jukebag on Saturday 31st October 16:46
Jukebag said:
Sad news, heard about his passing this afternoon. 90 is a bloody good age considering most of us plebs will never get to that age. We all like to mourn of our on screen heroes and role models (or as I prefer to call them lifetime actors), but we seem to forget that, at the end of the day we don't really know them only what their official bios etc tell us, and what we hear, see or read is quite often the opposite.
Like many I grew up first watching the Connery Bond's. When I was young me and my brother used to pronounce Connery as Connry for some reason lol.
I bet Bond fanatic Calvin Dyson will be doing a Connery tribute video soon.
He already has.Like many I grew up first watching the Connery Bond's. When I was young me and my brother used to pronounce Connery as Connry for some reason lol.
I bet Bond fanatic Calvin Dyson will be doing a Connery tribute video soon.
singlecoil said:
...it's a pity he didn't make any more after OHMSS.
I have a theory... The first film by a new Bond is always their best, and then it goes downhill from there. You can even twist the rule to apply to 'Diamonds are Forever' for being a separate S. Connery debut.
So, G. Lazenby with only one film and T. Dalton with 2 films don't have the opportunity to star in any duffers (eg. P. Brosnan) or get too old (R. Moore) or have too long between films (D. Craig)
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