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I'm surprised that we don't already have a thread about this great woman.
Margaret Thatcher took a couple of years to demonstrate her greatness. Theresa May only took a couple of hours.
Today, she is going to announce her intention to repeal the 1972 European Communities Act.
She has severly clipped the wings of the civil service.
Sir What'sHisName, the civil servant who used to chair many government commitees, is no longer even able to attend the meetings.
By God, this woman is impressive.
Margaret Thatcher took a couple of years to demonstrate her greatness. Theresa May only took a couple of hours.
Today, she is going to announce her intention to repeal the 1972 European Communities Act.
She has severly clipped the wings of the civil service.
Sir What'sHisName, the civil servant who used to chair many government commitees, is no longer even able to attend the meetings.
By God, this woman is impressive.
She is the ultimate pragmatist politician; she believes in nothing; she has no vision, no ideology, no burning ambition beyond her own desire for office. In many ways this makes her a good PM and ideal for our current times. The scary thing is that, rather like Gordon Brown, if she believes in anything, she genuinely believes that she has more right to run our lives than we do
Cameron is quite scathing of her regarding her reluctance to state her views regarding Brexit. Then when it all kicked off, she went on a walking holiday in the alps. 
I quite like her she's got a kind of sci-fi/head of a police state/Star Trek look about her.
I quite like her she's got a kind of sci-fi/head of a police state/Star Trek look about her.
Edited by el stovey on Sunday 2nd October 14:03
This woman certainly appears to me to have a steely resolve. Just what we need . I remain convinced that to the contrary of past appearances, she's at heart a Brexiteer. Even better!
Methinks, if she playes her cards well , and I get the impression she will, she'll be in for two terms. Of course, not a lot has happened as yet, but for some reason I have faith in the woman, and I'm quite pleased to have that faith.
Methinks, if she playes her cards well , and I get the impression she will, she'll be in for two terms. Of course, not a lot has happened as yet, but for some reason I have faith in the woman, and I'm quite pleased to have that faith.
davepoth said:
Seems impressive so far, but given the opposition we'd be praising her if she was a turnip. Let's see how Brexit turns out before writing the plaudits.
A real turnip and it doesn't even to be an amusingly shaped turnip, would be preferable to all the politicians we are currently inflicted with.Edited by frisbee on Sunday 2nd October 14:41
Elroy Blue said:
Teflon Theresa. One of the most incompetent Home Secretarys ever. Despite everything she touched becoming a shambles, nothing ever stuck.
She's lucky her opposite number is Corbyn. Anyone with half an ounce of competence would take her to the cleaners.
Seems there is an awful lot of incompetence out there as nobody appears to have so far........ I think the police federation couldn't take her to the cleaners either & didn;t she say they were not perfect.....She's lucky her opposite number is Corbyn. Anyone with half an ounce of competence would take her to the cleaners.
I suspect Theresa May's period in office could have a similar trajectory to that of Gordon Brown, though not necessarily for the same reasons. Brown enjoyed a long honeymoon period in which he was regarded as having an iron grip and a golden touch. It didn't last and his leadership descended into shambles.
I can see this also happening to Theresa May. Brexit has set her an impossible task. Opinion is almost evenly split, deeply held and thoroughly entrenched both in her political party and in the country. There was a time when only anti-EU opinion had any fire to it. The vote to leave has ended this with those wanting to have remained in the EU now just as fervent as the ones wanting to leave it have long been. Pleasing both will be very difficult to do; if she manages it, she will deserve the sobriquet 'Great'. I do not believe she will.
Time will tell, but I don't personally see her as being strong. I believe she will cave in to the Right wing of the party and deliver a Hard Brexit. The realities of that may or may not have carried the day on the day of the vote - I cannot know - but I suspect that it might not be so popular in two or three years time. Either way, even on the best-case, it will involve a huge amount on infighting amongst the Tories and Tory voters, just as it will across society. It is quite wrong to suggest that May enjoys the support of all Conservative voters and the political centre ground generally for a Hard Brexit - or some of her other policies - and if she shifts Hard-right politically as she currently appears to be doing - despite all her mellifluous One-Nation words.
I can see this also happening to Theresa May. Brexit has set her an impossible task. Opinion is almost evenly split, deeply held and thoroughly entrenched both in her political party and in the country. There was a time when only anti-EU opinion had any fire to it. The vote to leave has ended this with those wanting to have remained in the EU now just as fervent as the ones wanting to leave it have long been. Pleasing both will be very difficult to do; if she manages it, she will deserve the sobriquet 'Great'. I do not believe she will.
Time will tell, but I don't personally see her as being strong. I believe she will cave in to the Right wing of the party and deliver a Hard Brexit. The realities of that may or may not have carried the day on the day of the vote - I cannot know - but I suspect that it might not be so popular in two or three years time. Either way, even on the best-case, it will involve a huge amount on infighting amongst the Tories and Tory voters, just as it will across society. It is quite wrong to suggest that May enjoys the support of all Conservative voters and the political centre ground generally for a Hard Brexit - or some of her other policies - and if she shifts Hard-right politically as she currently appears to be doing - despite all her mellifluous One-Nation words.
Edited by dbdb on Sunday 2nd October 14:43
Her names officially mud in this house as mrs H best friend - a supremely talented musician with muliple high paying work and tour offers has, after years and a probabe 6 figure spend, given up fighting the home office for residency and gone back to australia. He exactly the "kind" person we want but how he has been treated by the home office run by May is disguisting and illegal to the point hes being pressurised and has good grounds to sue and I'd be (out of character) 100% behind him in this.
Aside from that though I'd say she seems quite savvy which does set her apart from most of the dredge of westminister.
Aside from that though I'd say she seems quite savvy which does set her apart from most of the dredge of westminister.
Elroy Blue said:
Teflon Theresa. One of the most incompetent Home Secretarys ever. Despite everything she touched becoming a shambles, nothing ever stuck.
She's lucky her opposite number is Corbyn. Anyone with half an ounce of competence would take her to the cleaners.
I have a suspicion that as time passes you will come to like her.She's lucky her opposite number is Corbyn. Anyone with half an ounce of competence would take her to the cleaners.
She publicly declared herself as a Remainer, but then she appointed Liam Fox, David Davis and Ian Duncan-Smith to her cabinet. It would appear that she was probably a Leaver all along.
Not seen much to impress me so far. Plenty of talk, but even that hasn't been up to very much. Tries to present herself as 'nicer than that nasty Cameron bloke' and, whilst that wouldn't be saying much, she fails to convince even on that.
The opposition being dire doesn't make her a great PM.
The opposition being dire doesn't make her a great PM.
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