The Grand Tour

[marcosgt]

l354uge said:

Jonesy23 said:

Shame the cars look st; they've gone down the BTCC styling route of making them fit a regulated idea of 'sporty' styling with stupid wheel arches and standard aero.

The old OEM+ WRC look was so much better.

Can't believe the top rank rally stuff does much for sales these days.

Nothing regulated about the aero on the latest cars

Ahem -

Aerodynamic devices

The rear aerodynamic device must be entirely contained within the frontal projection of the car without its rear view mirrors.

Full doc here - https://www.fia.com/file/37755/download/12795?toke...

They are fairly free, but there are definite regulations...

M

Edited by marcosgt on Monday 22 January 11:46

[Andy S15]

Quite easily the best episode of TGT or even Top Gear I can remember CHM doing for a very long time. My favourite in recent memory anyway. I was totally fooled on the refuelling thing right up to the first explosion - I audibly gasped when the arm fell off the end! Many genuine laughs, decent guests, good power test and great docu. More like that please.

[anonymous-user]

Ep 7 was, for once, worth an hour of anyone's time.
But please don't anyone think of using it as any kind of benchmark in the "I keep watching the rubbish episodes in the hope it gets better" discussion. The "real" fans hate that. ;-)

[Adam B]

Andy S15 said:

I was totally fooled on the refuelling thing right up to the first explosion - I audibly gasped when the arm fell off the end!

really? wow

[JagLover]

PhantomPH said:

I must confess to being a long-time WWE fan (Yes I am middle-aged now and should know better) so I was looking forward to seeing Goldberg. Added to the fact that I am an AJ fan as well, it was one of the very, VERY few times I watched the celeb bit. And I guess that's fine - always something for everyone.

Goldberg's comments about WWE being pre-determined were spot on...any real WWE fan knows this and enjoys it for the soap-opera-esque spectacle. Like the man says, being pre-determined doesn't make the other guy any lighter...or being slammed into the floor any less painful.

A short Goldberg showreel for those who maybe thought he was just all mouth. https://youtu.be/-JBA2965jN8

ETA: IN the clip above, entry 2 (second last) is only from last year when Bill was 50 years old. There's only 4 years between him and James May!

The tent audience should have been chanting "Goldberg"

Liked that episode, including the car refueling

[l354uge]

marcosgt said:

Ahem -

Aerodynamic devices

The rear aerodynamic device must be entirely contained within the frontal projection of the car without its rear view mirrors.

Full doc here - https://www.fia.com/file/37755/download/12795?toke...

They are fairly free, but there are definite regulations...

M

Edited by marcosgt on Monday 22 January 11:46

Well yes theres regs, else all the cars would look like the pikes peak susuki escudo! But to call it "standard aero" is ridiculous!

[irocfan]

PhantomPH said:

A short Goldberg showreel for those who maybe thought he was just all mouth. https://youtu.be/-JBA2965jN8

to me Goldberg came across a decent bloke (#5 in that vid was impressive IMO)

[irocfan]

chrisga said:

Thoroughly enjoyed last weeks episode. Watched it in the proper 8-9pm slot last night. The MILF rig was funny.

I missed that reference

[Biker 1]

irocfan said:

I missed that reference

Me too.....

[Mr-B]

irocfan said:

chrisga said:

Thoroughly enjoyed last weeks episode. Watched it in the proper 8-9pm slot last night. The MILF rig was funny.

I missed that reference

You probably missed the other verbal one at the beginning of that piece too then, the Special High Intensity Test track

[checkmate91]

Biker 1 said:

irocfan said:

I missed that reference

Me too.....

Same here, I remember very well the Penistone Oil and Larsen whatever from the 24 hour race episode of TG but as they didn't point it out for the hard of hearing I missed it

[irocfan]

Mr-B said:

irocfan said:

chrisga said:

Thoroughly enjoyed last weeks episode. Watched it in the proper 8-9pm slot last night. The MILF rig was funny.

I missed that reference

You probably missed the other verbal one at the beginning of that piece too then, the Special High Intensity Test track

weirdly enought that I got

[PhantomPH]

irocfan said:

PhantomPH said:

A short Goldberg showreel for those who maybe thought he was just all mouth. https://youtu.be/-JBA2965jN8

to me Goldberg came across a decent bloke (#5 in that vid was impressive IMO)

Yeah, Scott Steiner isn’t a small guy, either! The footage of him putting his arm through the limo windows is also not (entirely) fake. Real limo windows - no fake glass - but he had a bit of metal in his hand for the front. Then adrenaline kicked in and when he puts his arm through the large side window, that was off script and no metal. He cut his arm badly enough for him to be rushed in to surgery at a nearby hospital to stop the bleeding cameras stopped rolling. Put him out for a little while.

[RoverP6B]

RemyMartin81D said:

Give the group B formula another 35-40 years of tech development and then it would be fair. It's like putting the mallard up against a modern suburban commuter train.

And if you think Mallard wouldn't walk away from a modern EMU over 30mph... the A4s were good for about 3200hp, which is more than just about anything around these days...

...and I have absolutely no doubt that a full fire-breathing anti-lag Group B car, in the hands of a truly Godly driver, would stomp all over today's WRC nonsense. However, to a merely average rally driver, today's cars will be far easier to drive.

Re the issue of WRC cars looking nothing like production cars - I grew up in the era of Paddy Hopkirk etc, and I do miss the days of pretty much bone-stock Mini, Citroen etc road cars flat-out on the Monte Carlo...

[F1GTRUeno]

irocfan said:

PhantomPH said:

A short Goldberg showreel for those who maybe thought he was just all mouth. https://youtu.be/-JBA2965jN8

to me Goldberg came across a decent bloke (#5 in that vid was impressive IMO)

Goldberg is by almost every account a very decent bloke in person.

And watching his spears are a part of my childhood. Wrestling may be 'fake' and extremely sad but he always full on rugby/football tackled anyone he ran at. That's gonna hurt given his size.

[Uncle John]

Great episode!

Refuelling bit was fun.

Joshua and Goldberg was light hearted and they both drove the circuit well. (I've a lot of time for Joshua)

Conversation Street was the best so far.

Lancia vs Audi was superb. Long lunches and moving 200 cars HAHA!!

Finally, not forgetting the 'Huracan Performante'. What a car and a great review with top notch camera work!

A superb episode in whats been a very good series so far.

Chapeau CHM!!!

[PhantomPH]

Uncle John said:

A superb episode in whats been a very good series so far.

Hmmm, one swallow does not make a spring...but this is all about personal opinion and enjoyment so that's a fair comment.

For me, I would say that this was a definite improvement over...well..pretty much everything on TGT so far, but even then I am not really going to hail it as the best thing ever.

I thought the refuelling was puerile in it's attempts to be funny, when it really didn't need to be. I was all in for this as a bit of fun, until it jumped the shark in a split second. Even Mrs Phantom audibly let out a disappointed, "Oh..." when it went from an entertaining attempt at something clearly a bit daft, to utterly stupid in one fell swoop.

That being said, I think I have stated before on this thread, that this was the first (and only) episode of TGT so far, that I would happily watch again. Which is a good thing.

This feels a lot like the guys in Ice Cold In Alex, where they are so thirsty that a pint of Carlsberg is the best thing ever...

[swisstoni]

There’s hardly much to whet the whistle of any car-curios TV viewer these days though is there?

The real TG left an odd shaped hole that the Beeb weren’t able to fill, nor a thousand YouTube berks or Discovery Channel made-up characters.

I’m glad they are still at it.

[RemyMartin81D]

RoverP6B said:

RemyMartin81D said:

Give the group B formula another 35-40 years of tech development and then it would be fair. It's like putting the mallard up against a modern suburban commuter train.

And if you think Mallard wouldn't walk away from a modern EMU over 30mph... the A4s were good for about 3200hp, which is more than just about anything around these days...

...and I have absolutely no doubt that a full fire-breathing anti-lag Group B car, in the hands of a truly Godly driver, would stomp all over today's WRC nonsense. However, to a merely average rally driver, today's cars will be far easier to drive.

Re the issue of WRC cars looking nothing like production cars - I grew up in the era of Paddy Hopkirk etc, and I do miss the days of pretty much bone-stock Mini, Citroen etc road cars flat-out on the Monte Carlo...

Mallard wouldn't see which way a class 387 went to suggest other wise is bonkers.

Steam trains are slow at acceleration.

[Bebee]

I love the show, It makes me laugh, one thing though, do they need the 'canned cheer' that's mixing in with the live applause?
If you notice, when ever it goes 'back to the studio err......tent' after a film piece, the audience appear to clap with their mouths closed yet there's this concert type roar coming from somewhere, it's not the live audience.