The Grand Tour

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TTmonkey

20,911 posts

246 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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Crossflow Kid said:
Clarkson will retire and disappear, doing occasional TV travelogue in the mould of retired BBC News people.
May will go back to the BBC doing his docutainment programs.
Hammond will go back to the talent vacuum he came from.
I think Hammond will become the next long term panelist on 'loose women'.

hehe

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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anonymous said:
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Exactly.

Mail and Sun - says it all. Not being renewed is not the same thing as being cancelled. Cancelled would mean there would be no third series.

Particularly shoddy reporting of information that has been in the public domain for nearly two years.

98elise

26,366 posts

160 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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anonymous said:
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Personally if I was in their shoes I would be looking to calm things down a bit. None of them ever need to work again, and I suspect filming is way less fun than the finished product looks.

I'll bet Hammond's wife would have something to say on the subject as well!

Doofus

25,732 posts

172 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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98elise said:
Personally if I was in their shoes I would be looking to calm things down a bit. None of them ever need to work again, and I suspect filming is way less fun than the finished product looks.
And they have to spend so much time with Clarkson

RDMcG

19,093 posts

206 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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Sort of mixed feelings about the end of GT. It had good moments, but never really worked for me as well as TG at its best.

I do wonder though if the heyday of motoring programming has peaked. There are many more people these days who have less interest in cars than when I was a kid as far as I can see. Further, cases have become so filled with code that it is more and more difficult to work on them- the old shade tree garage days are largely gone. Of course there are exceptions but this is a general impression I have.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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TTmonkey said:
I think Hammond will become the next long term panelist on 'loose women'.

hehe
Good shout.

Clarkson didn’t have to work before TGT being honest, it’s just helped to pay off his ex and build a new house. Fair play to him!

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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RDMcG said:
Sort of mixed feelings about the end of GT.
No-one has said it is the end. The newspaper reports are telling us exactly what everyone knew before the show aired for the first time - that they had signed on for three series. There is one series to go and plenty of time for them to negotiate a renewal if that is what everyone wants.

Well done for falling for the sensationalism though.

It may end after series three, it may not, but today's story contains ZERO new information on the topic.

In other news, Paloma Faith, Beyonce, Ed Sheeren or Chas and Dave could possibly be singing the next Bond theme...... rolleyes

Otispunkmeyer

12,555 posts

154 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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Good I think

I've enjoyed GT for the most part. Especially series 2 which was much better than 1. Series 3 and off they go, I think the general format has had its day.

I'd actually really like to see them just do like 2 or 3 big films spread out over the remaining 12 shows. I don't know what they'd do mind and it might be a big ask but those films are generally the best works.

Then just put a lid on it and call it a day. Job done.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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TTmonkey said:
I think Hammond will become the next long term panelist on 'loose women'.

hehe
Good shout.

Clarkson didn’t have to work before TGT being honest, it’s just helped to pay off his ex and build a new house. Fair play to him!

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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I love the way people are vigorously pointing out that three series is all they were contracted to do how it doesn't mean "the end" and the papers are just printing what everyone knew already.

What's that big river through Egypt again?

hairyben

8,516 posts

182 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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Crossflow Kid said:
I love the way people are vigorously pointing out that three series is all they were contracted to do how it doesn't mean "the end" and the papers are just printing what everyone knew already.

What's that big river through Egypt again?
Amazon have been quite quiet on viewing numbers and "profitability". The latter being subjective as they may have a long term outlook in getting people subscribing to prime, like supermarkets doing loss leader campaigns.

suffolk009

5,344 posts

164 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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I can't imagine Amazon really give a toss about viewing figures. They wanted a jewel of programme to get people to sign up to prime. They got that. They've not been shy on advertising it. Every time there's a new series anything arriving from Amazon for a month or so before hand is covered in GT logos and their faces.

I doubt anyone at Amazon thinks it has been less than a complete success.

Whether or not they sign up for more, I have no idea. Neither do those journalists. Either way good coverage for Amazon...oh, look, more success.

I would suggest that if everything else is equal they'll want to commission more just so they appear to have made the right call in the first place.

Remember also, old formulas for success involving viewing numbers and price of production don't apply to internet programming.

Will the richest man in the world (reportedly $130billion dollars) be troubled much by spending £33m pounds on another series? Probably no more than you or I deciding whether to buy another book.

irocfan

40,152 posts

189 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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well apparently S3 will be the last....

https://jalopnik.com/report-amazon-will-not-renew-...

thegreenhell

15,110 posts

218 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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irocfan said:
well apparently S3 will be the last....

https://jalopnik.com/report-amazon-will-not-renew-...
They are only quoting the Daily Mail as a source...

NDA

21,485 posts

224 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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suffolk009 said:
I can't imagine Amazon really give a toss about viewing figures. They wanted a jewel of programme to get people to sign up to prime. They got that. They've not been shy on advertising it. Every time there's a new series anything arriving from Amazon for a month or so before hand is covered in GT logos and their faces.

I doubt anyone at Amazon thinks it has been less than a complete success.

Whether or not they sign up for more, I have no idea. Neither do those journalists. Either way good coverage for Amazon...oh, look, more success.

I would suggest that if everything else is equal they'll want to commission more just so they appear to have made the right call in the first place.

Remember also, old formulas for success involving viewing numbers and price of production don't apply to internet programming.

Will the richest man in the world (reportedly $130billion dollars) be troubled much by spending £33m pounds on another series? Probably no more than you or I deciding whether to buy another book.
I think this pretty much nails it.

Amazon have over 300m customers globally and around 63m Prime members - clearly the objective is to get more Prime members. Each series needs to deliver around 400,000 incremental Prime members globally, or around 35,000 per territory. That's the reason for the show. The lifetime value of an Amazon customer cannot be discounted either - we don't have those figures.

JagLover

42,265 posts

234 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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I wouldn't have cared after season 1, but S2 was a lot better so it will be a shame if we only have one more season.



carl_w

9,154 posts

257 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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NDA said:
I think this pretty much nails it.

Amazon have over 300m customers globally and around 63m Prime members - clearly the objective is to get more Prime members. Each series needs to deliver around 400,000 incremental Prime members globally, or around 35,000 per territory. That's the reason for the show. The lifetime value of an Amazon customer cannot be discounted either - we don't have those figures.
I had a Prime subscription off and on in the past, but since TGT it's been pretty much permanent. Doubt I'd have bought a Fire TV box without TGT either. It's not the only thing I watch, of course, but it was TGT that introduced me to Amazon TV.

hyphen

26,262 posts

89 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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suffolk009 said:
Will the richest man in the world (reportedly $130billion dollars) be troubled much by spending £33m pounds on another series? Probably no more than you or I deciding whether to buy another book.
Yes, that is how it works at Amazon. The bloke with 17% of shareholding of a listed company is asked to open his own personal cheque each time the company wished to do anything...

laugh

Amazon knowingly overpaid for TGT but now will play hardball. TGT will no doubt get an offer, just depends on how competitive it is to other.

I would imagine Clarkson and co may miss the 'national treasue' type attention of being in terrestrial TV, and with Clarkson making his debut on ITV it may well move there.

Edited by hyphen on Sunday 11th March 17:56

Rich_W

12,548 posts

211 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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r11co said:
Exactly.

Mail and Sun - says it all. Not being renewed is not the same thing as being cancelled. Cancelled would mean there would be no third series.

Particularly shoddy reporting of information that has been in the public domain for nearly two years.
r11co said:
No-one has said it is the end. The newspaper reports are telling us exactly what everyone knew before the show aired for the first time - that they had signed on for three series. There is one series to go and plenty of time for them to negotiate a renewal if that is what everyone wants.

Well done for falling for the sensationalism though.

It may end after series three, it may not, but today's story contains ZERO new information on the topic.

In other news, Paloma Faith, Beyonce, Ed Sheeren or Chas and Dave could possibly be singing the next Bond theme...... rolleyes
Rico

Is this your world famous "tv insider" knowledge again hehe

Seriously, why the fk do you defend literally everything about TGT or the show and slag off TG. Do you work for them? Is that your job role? Social Media influencer rolleyes

Crossflow Kid said:
I love the way people are vigorously pointing out that three series is all they were contracted to do how it doesn't mean "the end" and the papers are just printing what everyone knew already.

What's that big river through Egypt again?
It's only really 1 person just posting his wailings multiple times

I can only assume he has some kind of weird shrine in his spare room, with a lock of each of the protagonists hair and signed pics purchased from eBay laugh






warch

2,941 posts

153 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Clarkson and May fan (Hammond jumped the shark years ago), but I can't get into TGT. They've had the old good episode, the hostage rescue episode from series 1 was hilarious, but I can't be arsed to sit down and watch it. I didn't like the programme content, there were too many overlong puff pieces for supercars and poorly written studio routines for my liking.

I actually really enjoyed last week's TG, with the off roaders. I like Joey and Rory and even Chris Harris when he isn't acting like a bumptious tit.

James May is fantastic on television, I always enjoy his shows, I'm hoping he'll do more of them if they do sack off TGT.



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