As yet untitled Han Solo film

[p1stonhead]

RosscoPCole said:

hornetrider said:

Han Solo played by someone other than Ford? I'm not usually a naysayer but this sounds like a stretch for me.

I believe the film is about a young Han Solo. So having Harrison Ford in it would be daft.

Even though he is sort of everywhere right now, I think Chris Pratt would have been a better choice looks wise at least...

[generationx]

At least let´s all pray for a lead character with a bit of charisma (as Han Solo should have) instead of the bland-tastic Felicity Jones.

Is this film basically going to be TV Poker with Solo trying to win the Falcon from Lando? That sounds exciting...

[marcosgt]

p1stonhead said:

Even though he is sort of everywhere right now, I think Chris Pratt would have been a better choice looks wise at least...

You know this is Star Wars, not Indianna Jones, right?

He's certainly got the hat, but I don't recall Han Solo having one!

M.

[daddy cool]

generationx said:

Is this film basically going to be TV Poker with Solo trying to win the Falcon from Lando? That sounds exciting...

No, it's going to focus on his early career choices - such as herding Nerfs.

[ukaskew]

Chris Pratt is busy with Infinity War at the moment so couldn't have done this.

I'm feeling quietly confident, Lord and Miller made a genuine modern classic with The Lego Movie (and nobody gave that much hope) so I'd like to think they'll have a good shot at this. If nothing else, the standalone films can easily be ignored, so I'm not sure why people get some funny about it before it's even been made. Rogue One was generally very, very well regarded and again wasn't really given much hope by many before release.

[gregs656]

Catatafish said:

Disney will milk it to within an inch of its life. There is a vast machine churning out these things every year until you die.

You can already see the falling trajectory of quality. TFA decent, R1 okish, Han solo will likely be a competently made film but with no soul and bland story.

They can't do anything without crowbarring in the OTT fanservice.

I see a significant up tick in quality compared to the prequel trilogy, and lets face it the whole story of the OT is bit of a fiddle designed to allow the franchise to exist as we know it - and not many people would complain about the existence of ESB!

I thought R1 was at least an equal to TFA but for different reasons. The expanded universe has great potential so why not take advantage of it - they will introduce a whole new generation to SW.

[Catatafish]

gregs656 said:

I see a significant up tick in quality compared to the prequel trilogy, and lets face it the whole story of the OT is bit of a fiddle designed to allow the franchise to exist as we know it - and not many people would complain about the existence of ESB!

I thought R1 was at least an equal to TFA but for different reasons. The expanded universe has great potential so why not take advantage of it - they will introduce a whole new generation to SW.

The trouble is they don't take advantage of the expanded universe - just more of the same (ties, star destroyers, same plot etc.) Each film feels like a huge wasted opportunity for greatness.

R1 suffered IMO from it being spoiled (you already know they get the plans). There was zero tension on account of this, and bland clichet characters to boot.

[p1stonhead]

Catatafish said:

gregs656 said:

I see a significant up tick in quality compared to the prequel trilogy, and lets face it the whole story of the OT is bit of a fiddle designed to allow the franchise to exist as we know it - and not many people would complain about the existence of ESB!

I thought R1 was at least an equal to TFA but for different reasons. The expanded universe has great potential so why not take advantage of it - they will introduce a whole new generation to SW.

The trouble is they don't take advantage of the expanded universe - just more of the same (ties, star destroyers, same plot etc.) Each film feels like a huge wasted opportunity for greatness.

R1 suffered IMO from it being spoiled (you already know they get the plans). There was zero tension on account of this, and bland clichet characters to boot.

Zero tension in R1?!

We didnt know that everyone involved in stealing the plans died did we? It was pretty damn tense to me. All of the heroes died. How often does that happen in a film let alone a 'family' (12a) film.

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 23 February 11:35

[hornetrider]

p1stonhead said:

Zero tension in R1?!

Going to spoiler the next bit! (You might want to too)

p1stonhead said:

We didnt know that everyone involved in stealing the plans died did we? It was pretty damn tense to me. All of the heroes died. How often does that happen in a film let alone a 'family' (12a) film.

I agree I thought R1 was excellent. The tension at the end with them frantically trying to escape, pursued by Darth Vader was awesome. In fact I don't mind admitting I may have got a bit emotional at the very very end.

[gregs656]

Catatafish said:

The trouble is they don't take advantage of the expanded universe - just more of the same (ties, star destroyers, same plot etc.) Each film feels like a huge wasted opportunity for greatness.

R1 suffered IMO from it being spoiled (you already know they get the plans). There was zero tension on account of this, and bland clichet characters to boot.

I think they are getting there. The problem with Star Wars is the huge weight of expectation. TFA was a very safe movie, R1 perhaps a little less so - I hope as they relax into the movies we might see some stuff coming out with fewer links to the OT but it's not realistic to expect that to happen straight away.

I simply do not believe that knowing the end to any story can nullify the tension within it. The opposite is true, if anything.

[Moonhawk]

He looks better than I expected - but I still think they missed a trick not casting this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bba_wPdLxp4

Especially considering he has played a young Harrison Ford (very convincingly) in another movie - The Age of Adaline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqxTfzgIvSY

[Halb]

Danni is in it...aw fk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIW1cNMbaV8

[P-Jay]

I think this is the moment when we have to accept that the 74 year old Harrison Ford is a poor choice to play a 20 something Han Solo, and a CGI'd face transplant as used sparingly in R1 wouldn't work for a leading actor.

If you can't then I wouldn't bother seeing it, if you can then you might enjoy it - this recent set of Star Wars films have been very good so far IMHO.

If I was being totally honestly, Solo was the weak link in 7 for me, Han Solo was a over confident, cocky guy constantly with a smile on his face, Han Solo in 7 was a scared looking stressed out old man.

[AshVX220]

p1stonhead said:

Catatafish said:

gregs656 said:

I see a significant up tick in quality compared to the prequel trilogy, and lets face it the whole story of the OT is bit of a fiddle designed to allow the franchise to exist as we know it - and not many people would complain about the existence of ESB!

I thought R1 was at least an equal to TFA but for different reasons. The expanded universe has great potential so why not take advantage of it - they will introduce a whole new generation to SW.

The trouble is they don't take advantage of the expanded universe - just more of the same (ties, star destroyers, same plot etc.) Each film feels like a huge wasted opportunity for greatness.

R1 suffered IMO from it being spoiled (you already know they get the plans). There was zero tension on account of this, and bland clichet characters to boot.

Zero tension in R1?!

We didnt know that everyone involved in stealing the plans died did we? It was pretty damn tense to me. All of the heroes died. How often does that happen in a film let alone a 'family' (12a) film.

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 23 February 11:35

We kind of did, none of the lead characters from R1 were in Ep4, which was the big clue, they had to have died, or they'd have been up there getting medals at the end of Ep4 with Luke and Han.

I think this Han film will be OK, I'm a huge fan though, so I'll be satisfied with any new stuff (so long as it's not as st as Ep1 or Ep2.).

A couple of things I think we'll see is Han winning the Falcon and then them making the Kessle Run (which they'll need to achieve in less than 12 parsecs for some random reason, like escaping the (insert baddie here)).

[Halb]

AshVX220 said:

We kind of did, none of the lead characters from R1 were in Ep4, which was the big clue, they had to have died, or they'd have been up there getting medals at the end of Ep4 with Luke and Han.

I think this Han film will be OK, I'm a huge fan though, so I'll be satisfied with any new stuff (so long as it's not as st as Ep1 or Ep2.).

A couple of things I think we'll see is Han winning the Falcon and then them making the Kessle Run (which they'll need to achieve in less than 12 parsecs for some random reason, like escaping the (insert baddie here)).

Having these anthology films is pretty good, like Rogue 1, but mucking about with the characters that kicked it off is a bit crappy for me, leave those hallowed characters alone and make stories about new people. No one can touch what Ford did. It'll be a poor copy, or it'll be different which will make people say, 'why the fk are they changing, Han?'

[ukaskew]

Well, two of the guys in that original picture have now 'left the project' (been fired)...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40352...

I know Kathleen Kennedy is running a very tight ship (see: Rogue One reshoots) but I wasn't expecting the directors to be replaced so far into the project.

[p1stonhead]

How the hell can you decide you have creative differences when shooting is about to finish?

[scovette]

It's similar to Rogue One being taken away from Gareth Edwards. Tony Gilroy was behind the camera for the reshoots, and was in charge in the editing room. With this film the falling out has been more public, as Lord & Miller have a greater reputation and another studio to go to, so they don't have to publicly play along with Lucasfilm.

[Halb]

ukaskew said:

Well, two of the guys in that original picture have now 'left the project' (been fired)...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40352...

I know Kathleen Kennedy is running a very tight ship (see: Rogue One reshoots) but I wasn't expecting the directors to be replaced so far into the project.

Ooof, that doesn't bode well, I liked R1, but Ghostbusters was plagued with reshoot after reshoot because Feig cocked up so much

[p1stonhead]

Whoa Ron Howard finishing it.