Three Girls - BBC Drama about Rochdale abuse

[Trabi601]

andymc said:

so you're fine with the oppression of women?

I'm just trying to ascertain which groups you think are oppressing women and why you may have been called racist when you don't seem to think you are.

Of course, you may be one of the large number of PH-ers in the 'I'm not racist, but' category.

[Trabi601]

andymc said:

which lot? So I'm racist if I disagree with the way Muslim women are treated?

All Muslim women? Most? Some? A minority?

What about other groups who also have some people within them who treat women badly?

If they're born and bred white, Christian and English, what are you going to do with them? - this could be difficult as you can't 'send them home'.

[Charlie Hoskins]

Trabi601 said:

andymc said:

absolute middle aged attitudes to women in general, the women of this country should be campaigning to rid the country of this lot never mind donald trump

And you wonder why you've been called racist?

Following last nights sick act of cowardice in Manchester do you still feel warmth towards 'this lot', Trabi ?
Terror ? They just strengthened their enemies resolve tenfold.

[andymc]

they could have blown up 100's of sick kids and he'd still be banging the racism drum.

[andymc]

quite incredible we're commenting on girls been raped by Pakistani Muslim men yet when challenged its a racist issue, where you on Rochdale council a few years ago?

[anonymous-user]

[quote=Trabi601]

I'm just trying to ascertain which groups you think are oppressing women and why you may have been called racist when you don't seem to think you are.

Of course, you may be one of the large number of PH-ers in the 'I'm not racist, but' category.[/quote

Well to get something clear I am racist and freely admit it. And I think a certain amount of some strand of Radical Islamic following men regard women as second class citizens to be "ruled over " rather than "lived with". I also think a much smaller but worrying amount of the same strand of Radical Islamic following men regard White children and children whom they deem to be followers of (or the children of the folllowers of) a different flavour of Islamic or any other religion between the ages of 12 to 15 (ie puberty age) to be fair game to be used for sexual gain.

I cannot be saved or reprogramed and unfortunately I am what I am. I somehow mange to get through the day without deep feelings of self loathing or a need to punish myself for feeling as I do
I must be a BNP member
Oh I'm not

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 23 May 16:47

[Trabi601]

Charlie Hoskins said:

Following last nights sick act of cowardice in Manchester do you still feel warmth towards 'this lot', Trabi ?
Terror ? They just strengthened their enemies resolve tenfold.

I think we shouldn't tar a whole community with the same brush as the nut-jobs who do that kind of thing.

Did we tar all Catholics with the same brush in the 70s / 80s / 90s and ask for them to be 'sent home'?

Whilst I'm saddened by the events of yesterday, I'm equally alarmed by the number of acquaintances I have who are now sharing Facebook content from despicable groups such as the EDL, Britain First, and a new one I'd not seen before 'British Freedom'.

[Charlie Hoskins]

What, exactly, is despicable about those groups in your opinion ?

[anonymous-user]

Trabi601 said:

, and a new one I'd not seen before 'British Freedom'.

I'll look them up and set them as favourites
I'm fked I tell you fked

[Trabi601]

Charlie Hoskins said:

What, exactly, is despicable about those groups in your opinion ?

Ahhh, I see that PH really has now (as I have hinted at over the last few months) become a 'safe haven' for racists (and those who 'aren't racist, but').

[andymc]

Trabi601 said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

What, exactly, is despicable about those groups in your opinion ?

Ahhh, I see that PH really has now (as I have hinted at over the last few months) become a 'safe haven' for racists (and those who 'aren't racist, but').

yup as usual when beaten, trot out the R card

[anonymous-user]

Trabi601 said:

I think we shouldn't tar a whole community with the same brush as the nut-jobs who do that kind of thing.

Did we tar all Catholics with the same brush in the 70s / 80s / 90s and ask for them to be 'sent home'?

Whilst I'm saddened by the events of yesterday, I'm equally alarmed by the number of acquaintances I have who are now sharing Facebook content from despicable groups such as the EDL, Britain First, and a new one I'd not seen before 'British Freedom'.

Just out of interest, what would your view be if your 13 year old daughter got groomed and gang raped or blown up at a concert?

Would you be saddened yet equally alarmed that other family members would likely condemn it in the strongest terms?

[andymc]

Trabi601 said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

What, exactly, is despicable about those groups in your opinion ?

Ahhh, I see that PH really has now (as I have hinted at over the last few months) become a 'safe haven' for racists (and those who 'aren't racist, but').

if its that bad why not trot across to calipahteheads, jihadi matters

[Charlie Hoskins]

Trabi601 said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

What, exactly, is despicable about those groups in your opinion ?

Ahhh, I see that PH really has now (as I have hinted at over the last few months) become a 'safe haven' for racists (and those who 'aren't racist, but').

Booooooring !
No, go on, tell me. If you can. Won't take you a moment.

[andymc]

bmw535i said:

Trabi601 said:

I think we shouldn't tar a whole community with the same brush as the nut-jobs who do that kind of thing.

Did we tar all Catholics with the same brush in the 70s / 80s / 90s and ask for them to be 'sent home'?

Whilst I'm saddened by the events of yesterday, I'm equally alarmed by the number of acquaintances I have who are now sharing Facebook content from despicable groups such as the EDL, Britain First, and a new one I'd not seen before 'British Freedom'.

Just out of interest, what would your view be if your 13 year old daughter got groomed and gang raped or blown up at a concert?

Would you be saddened yet equally alarmed that other family members would likely condemn it in the strongest terms?

yes he would ban them from the funeral, especially if they were women, no place you see at a burial, gives them ideas above their station

[Charlie Hoskins]

I'm waiting for him to grow the balls and substantiate his name calling.
There is a rather special name for his kind though.....

[Trabi601]

bmw535i said:

Just out of interest, what would your view be if your 13 year old daughter got groomed and gang raped or blown up at a concert?

Would you be saddened yet equally alarmed that other family members would likely condemn it in the strongest terms?

My family aren't so blinkered as to condemn an entire race, or religion, on the acts of a minority.

Catholic priests have a record of abusing children and teens, and a group affiliated with the Catholic Church committed numerous atrocities in the name of their religion and territory claims. Did we have mass condemnation of all Irish Catholics (and their descendants?) - no, we didn't.

Care to speculate as to why it's fine to condemn all Muslims and Pakistanis, but not Irish Catholics?

[anonymous-user]

Trabi601 said:

bmw535i said:

Just out of interest, what would your view be if your 13 year old daughter got groomed and gang raped or blown up at a concert?

Would you be saddened yet equally alarmed that other family members would likely condemn it in the strongest terms?

My family aren't so blinkered as to condemn an entire race, or religion, on the acts of a minority.

Catholic priests have a record of abusing children and teens, and a group affiliated with the Catholic Church committed numerous atrocities in the name of their religion and territory claims. Did we have mass condemnation of all Irish Catholics (and their descendants?) - no, we didn't.

Care to speculate as to why it's fine to condemn all Muslims and Pakistanis, but not Irish Catholics?

You didn't answer my question. Standard.

Please can you quote where I've said it's fine to condemn all muslims and Pakistanis?

This type of misquoting and swerving is most unbecoming.

[andymc]

bmw535i said:

Trabi601 said:

bmw535i said:

Just out of interest, what would your view be if your 13 year old daughter got groomed and gang raped or blown up at a concert?

Would you be saddened yet equally alarmed that other family members would likely condemn it in the strongest terms?

My family aren't so blinkered as to condemn an entire race, or religion, on the acts of a minority.

Catholic priests have a record of abusing children and teens, and a group affiliated with the Catholic Church committed numerous atrocities in the name of their religion and territory claims. Did we have mass condemnation of all Irish Catholics (and their descendants?) - no, we didn't.

Care to speculate as to why it's fine to condemn all Muslims and Pakistanis, but not Irish Catholics?

You didn't answer my question. Standard.

Please can you quote where I've said it's fine to condemn all muslims and Pakistanis?

This type of misquoting and swerving is most unbecoming.

pinched frpm NP&E

[anonymous-user]

I just don't get why people make stuff up and misquote what's been said.

It's very often those who probably deep down know their arguments are pretty poor, and so resort to making others fit into their blinkered stereotypes by making up stuff they imagine one might say.