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andymc said:
ok, so can anyone explain the propensity of Pakistani men of all ages involved in this?
At a guess, I'd say the pervasive nature of an insular community where backward traits are upheld - namely the patriarchal hierarchy prevalent in many parts of the homeland.Couple this with the insidious side of political correctness, lacklustre performance from social services & the other agencies involved.
The issues with the "community" involved are not a million miles away from same sort of mess from the poorly educated underclass that produced the Shannon Mathews episode & the other similar episodes form recent history.
Indeed, an element of it is intertwined in this story, the feral children in the house from where Dennis Pennis picked up his daughter.
It's no good looking down ones nose at them thought, there must be a way to help lift the ones who want to be helped out of the mire.
Sadly, there are many who simply don't want any help.
Having read so much about these grooming cases I decided to skip this tv piece - it must be pretty unpleasant viewing. May have another think about it later and catch it on iplayer if I change my mind.
As for the whole Pakistani angle I think it's unfair to tar every single male from that community with the same brush however I can see why people do it - the stats do speak for themselves and males from a Pakistani background are massively over-represented when it comes to those arrested, charged and convicted of such crimes. Although more recently Somalians seem to be giving them a run for their money when it comes to these vile crimes. It's all extremely depressing.
As for the whole Pakistani angle I think it's unfair to tar every single male from that community with the same brush however I can see why people do it - the stats do speak for themselves and males from a Pakistani background are massively over-represented when it comes to those arrested, charged and convicted of such crimes. Although more recently Somalians seem to be giving them a run for their money when it comes to these vile crimes. It's all extremely depressing.
BlackLabel said:
As for the whole Pakistani angle I think it's unfair to tar every single male from that community with the same brush however I can see why people do it - the stats do speak for themselves and males from a Pakistani background are massively over-represented when it comes to those arrested, charged and convicted of such crimes. Although more recently Somalians seem to be giving them a run for their money when it comes to these vile crimes. It's all extremely depressing.
Can you please point me in the direction for these stats.I have been looking for a while on the. And whilst I can see the splits for all crime I can't see them for sex crimes.
desolate said:
BlackLabel said:
As for the whole Pakistani angle I think it's unfair to tar every single male from that community with the same brush however I can see why people do it - the stats do speak for themselves and males from a Pakistani background are massively over-represented when it comes to those arrested, charged and convicted of such crimes. Although more recently Somalians seem to be giving them a run for their money when it comes to these vile crimes. It's all extremely depressing.
Can you please point me in the direction for these stats.I have been looking for a while on the. And whilst I can see the splits for all crime I can't see them for sex crimes.
[quote=Trabi601]What did you expect to find when googling a very specific subject matter?
Desolate... I read a theory that this is related to the kinds of jobs many Pakistanis do. Taxi drivers, takeaway workers, petrol stations etc. The night time economy seems to bring with it lots of issues.[/quote
what a load of s
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Desolate... I read a theory that this is related to the kinds of jobs many Pakistanis do. Taxi drivers, takeaway workers, petrol stations etc. The night time economy seems to bring with it lots of issues.[/quote
what a load of s
tedesolate said:
BlackLabel said:
As for the whole Pakistani angle I think it's unfair to tar every single male from that community with the same brush however I can see why people do it - the stats do speak for themselves and males from a Pakistani background are massively over-represented when it comes to those arrested, charged and convicted of such crimes. Although more recently Somalians seem to be giving them a run for their money when it comes to these vile crimes. It's all extremely depressing.
Can you please point me in the direction for these stats.I have been looking for a while on the. And whilst I can see the splits for all crime I can't see them for sex crimes.
Muslim community must address issue of street grooming, says Nazir Afzal. Crown Prosecution Service’s lead on child sexual abuse urges community to report suspected cases of child sexual exploitation by Asian and Pakistani men and says ‘don’t walk by’
Guardian said:
Asked why Pakistani men are overrepresented in statistics relating to on-street grooming, Shaista Gohir, chair of Muslim Women’s Network UK, said it was a complex issue but partly stemmed from a lack of respect for women and girls. She has produced a report called Unheard Voices looking at the sexual exploitation of Asian Girls and Young Women, in which she asked Asian men and boys for their attitudes towards women.
Grooming offences committed mostly by Asian men, says ex-Barnardo's chief. Martin Narey urges inquiry into why Pakistanis and Afghans are 'overrepresented' in child exploitation crimes in northern townsRelevant to the word "Asian " being used
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/katie-hopkin...
(I know it's Katie Hopkins )
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/katie-hopkin...
(I know it's Katie Hopkins )
andymc said:
are you being serious? google throws up image after image with Pakistani grooming gangs
Yes I am being serious. I am try to analyse the situation rationally.I am interested in the raw statistics to assist this.
Muslims are heavily over represented in terms of the number of prisoners in the UK, but the latest stats suggest that men of Asian ethnic origin aren't.
I am genuinely interested in the primary statistics so I can tie them in with other issues surrounding crime.
Call me boring, but that's how I roll.
edit: this is quite interesting
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-...
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 17th May 21:45
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