Star Trek: Discovery - New series on Netflix

[coldel]

vxr8mate said:

I imagine this will be the last season of this incarnation. From the highlights, it looks weak and that being the case if subscriptions to CBS fall funding will dry up.

Episode 1 (S2) - Captain goes on the dangerous away mission when there where umpteen officers that could have done it as well (Star Trek pod racing), too much exposition and Tilly, in spite of everything she went through in the last season still acts like a teen that has made her first batch of slime.

If Star Trek is famous for anything surely its Spock, Kirk, Bones etc. all going off on away missions together when there were always alternatives on the bridge.

[Rumblestripe]

coldel said:

If Star Trek is famous for anything surely its Spock, Kirk, Bones etc. all going off on away missions together when there were always alternatives on the bridge.

...and famously the guys in the red (security) uniforms weren't coming back! Amusingly in this latest episode that wasn't the case.

Almost everything that Burnham is rubbished for is stuff that James T. is fondly remembered for.

[clonmult]

Rumblestripe said:

coldel said:

If Star Trek is famous for anything surely its Spock, Kirk, Bones etc. all going off on away missions together when there were always alternatives on the bridge.

...and famously the guys in the red (security) uniforms weren't coming back! Amusingly in this latest episode that wasn't the case.

Almost everything that Burnham is rubbished for is stuff that James T. is fondly remembered for.

I expected the red shirt to be the first to die .... blimey, was I wrong. Talk about unexpected changes. Therefore the show is rubbish, not worth watching, badly written, etc.

Absolutely loved that episode, it really did feel like classic trek. And the casting of Pike is absolutely spot on - he's way better in this role than he was in the truly diabolical Inhumans (which was one of the worst shows I have ever attempted to watch).

[coldel]

Rumblestripe said:

coldel said:

If Star Trek is famous for anything surely its Spock, Kirk, Bones etc. all going off on away missions together when there were always alternatives on the bridge.

...and famously the guys in the red (security) uniforms weren't coming back! Amusingly in this latest episode that wasn't the case.

Almost everything that Burnham is rubbished for is stuff that James T. is fondly remembered for.

I like the fact on Galaxy Quest the random guy in red spends most of the movie panicking when it all becomes real life, in reference to the fact that the guy in red always gets it!

[300bhp/ton]

Still not sure on this claimed new Star Trek. It still feels like it's trying to be Star Wars a little too much. Lots of odd camera angles, lots of camera waving and scenes far too busy and hectic to really see what is happening.

The rest of the time it feels like I'm playing Quake II. Poor lighting, corridors, sliding doors and never really sure if something is going to jump out. Certainly not Star Trek.

This seems true of most of the crew/cast. They just feel like NCP's. So much so, that I struggle to recall more than maybe 4 names in the show. Even after the role call scene.

I still really want to like it. But S2 E1 didn't even seem to have much of a story to it either.

[coldel]

For me the first episode is about bringing Pike back into the story, re-affirming who is left in the crew, what their roles are and how the new dynamic will play out. It also set up the story that there is some communications in deep space that nearly destroyed the Enterprise, these are linked to Spocks disappearance, and that they found a ship on the asteroid at the source of one of the communications. Clearly there is more to come and it wasn't a stand alone episode. There are only a handful of main characters really spilling over from the first series, but we have added a bit of a characterful engineer in episode 1 so who knows where that will go.

The Short Treks were also really well done prior to this episode, the back story on Seru and a possible glimpse into the future of the Discovery.

[coldel]

I also liked the freefall scene with the 4 pods, it was really fast paced and edge of the seat. I can totally imagine Kirk jumping from the pod to do the same thing Burnham did.

[LordGrover]

I hated it. Over-hyper-super action for the sake of it.

Quite enjoyed most of the first series and was looking forward to it settling down and maturing. And we got that rubbish. Very disappointed.

[Corso Marche]

For those who've not seen any of the Short Treks they are now on Netflix. But you have to find them under 'Trailers & More' when viewing the episode list of Discovery.

[smn159]

It really does have the feel of watching someone play a video game about it.

If TNG was A New Hope, then this is more The Phantom Menace.

Still watching it though

[Streetrod]

To those having a massive moan about the fact that this programme does not meet their pre-conceived ideas of what Star Trek should be, would you rather it not have existed at all?

Personally I love good Sci Fi and STD is trying to find its place in the world. As a massive Trek fan I watched the first season with a view that I would not hark to much back to previous series as I did not want my opinion governed by what has gone before.

I think the issue a lot of folks have is that they love the previous series so much that they have issues with the direction this series is going. Personally I am loving it so far

[_dobbo_]

I was chatting to a lad at work who watches Star Trek and was trying to understand why people are hating it so much.

As he's into cars I said think of it as a TV show version of the new Supra. Enough fans of the old car are going to hate the new version no matter what Toyota do.

Personally I think this is some top quality Sci Fi and the first episode was excellent.

[slipstream 1985]

I'm a big trekkie, I watched the first season with a friend with an open mind and I tried to like it. But I just don't care. They have butchered star trek. I have no interest in the micheal burn her show anymore.

[Catatafish]

I thought this was going to be an anthology series?

Unfortunately, it's still saddled with charisma void Burnham. I don't care if she lives or dies, same for the crew.

Pike was alright but still the dialogue was dire for most of it.

Who will "mysterious" Spock be punching soon? also its depressing that Spock is the tease to try and hang on to viewers. You can't meet him yet he's off being mysterious somewhere else...comeback next episode.

Pod racing was hilarious.

Hats off to Kurtzman though, knocking out these trekturds for loadsa $$$. Quite a feat.

[Wobbegong]

Didn’t think it was too bad, certainly better than the first series. Still doesn’t feel like Star Trek, has more of a Mass Effect feel to it. Burnham character is better, but a pity they’ve dialled up the speshal on Tilly

[300bhp/ton]

Streetrod said:

To those having a massive moan about the fact that this programme does not meet their pre-conceived ideas of what Star Trek should be, would you rather it not have existed at all?

Personally I love good Sci Fi and STD is trying to find its place in the world. As a massive Trek fan I watched the first season with a view that I would not hark to much back to previous series as I did not want my opinion governed by what has gone before.

I think the issue a lot of folks have is that they love the previous series so much that they have issues with the direction this series is going. Personally I am loving it so far

I’m a big Star Trek fan. Loved the original films from about the age of 7. Before Star Trek IV came out.

TOS has limitations due to special effects and technology and somewhat shows its age. But it’s still good and defines what was to come. But the original films; 1 thru 4 set the tone of “Star Trek”. Which TNG follows and embraces, as do DS9 and Voyager. Enterprise also kept true to the “feel” of Star Trek.

Really the first down turn was Nemisis. Despite being the Picard, something wasn’t as Trek about it.

So in answer to your first question. While it pains me to say it. To a certain extent yes, I’d rather they hadn’t bothered it they aren’t going to keep it Trek. Label it as something else. The same series and cast in anything other than Star Trek branding would be quite an ok, if slightly lacking sci-fi series. Akin to Dark Matter and similar series. But calling it Star Trek. It should at the very least be Star Trek.

So far The Orville has been far more Star Trek in feel and style. Despite a couple of slow episodes to its season 2 start.

[300bhp/ton]

Just watched the first short “Runaway”. My word what a load of rubbish.

Let’s ignore the fact you have an intruder aboard a starship yet it seems fine that this goes unreported and the chain of command ignored. And then some long distance transporter beam back to a planet they evidently aren’t near.

Seriously it seems the numpties making this junk can’t have ever watched a proper Star Trek episode/film.

[coldel]

300bhp/ton said:

Just watched the first short “Runaway”. My word what a load of rubbish.

Let’s ignore the fact you have an intruder aboard a starship yet it seems fine that this goes unreported and the chain of command ignored. And then some long distance transporter beam back to a planet they evidently aren’t near.

Seriously it seems the numpties making this junk can’t have ever watched a proper Star Trek episode/film.

Its the weakest one, the others are much better

[carl_w]

300bhp/ton said:

Just watched the first short “Runaway”. My word what a load of rubbish.

Let’s ignore the fact you have an intruder aboard a starship yet it seems fine that this goes unreported and the chain of command ignored. And then some long distance transporter beam back to a planet they evidently aren’t near.

Plus... transporter logs?

[_dobbo_]

It's interesting that people hark back to the old star trek and say Discovery isn't proper star trek, then use plot holes as some sort of rationale for this.

All the other star trek series had terrible plot holes and inconsistencies. And astoundingly bad storylines and episodes.