SPOILERS - GoT leaked/2am thread

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ZesPak

24,420 posts

195 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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As per the other thread, looked like Sandor was going to king's landing? Another point I can not understand. Tywin put a huge bounty on his head a couple of seasons back. Can't believe he'd just walk into king's landing... other than to set up Cleganebowl.

The Count

3,261 posts

262 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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V8mate said:
Never mind all that, the burning(?) question is: what do blue-eyed dragons fire from their pipes?

Snowballs?
"very cold breath - which can instantly freeze people and things solid, a mirror opposite of how the breath of regular dragons burn them"

from GoT Wiki smile

Pints

18,444 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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Anybody bought into the theory that Bran is the Night King?

V8mate

45,899 posts

188 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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So is there 'Mod magic' which can lift all the posts in this thread into the main thread at 9pm on Monday?

Sway

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26,070 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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V8mate said:
So is there 'Mod magic' which can lift all the posts in this thread into the main thread at 9pm on Monday?
I think that when threads have been merged the posts retain their timestamp, which would be very odd reading!

However, I'm sure more leaks will occur, happy for this thread to become dormant until then.

They seem leakier than the titanic, can't remember another show that's had so many problems.

Even saw some apparent spoilers for ep1 of the next season!

ZesPak

24,420 posts

195 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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Pints said:
Anybody bought into the theory that Bran is the Night King?
yes, been thinking that since a couple of seasons

Tony Starks

2,088 posts

211 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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With Cersei borrowing money for mercenaries, what are the chances she hires the Second Sons?

ICallCustard

163 posts

89 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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Tony Starks said:
With Cersei borrowing money for mercenaries, what are the chances she hires the Second Sons?
Doesn't the gold actually need to get to the iron bank first though? I thought that although it had made it to kings landing it hadn't gone any further yet.
The iron bank chap seemed to make a point of saying there would continue to be support for the Lannister once the gold had arrived with them

Tony Starks

2,088 posts

211 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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ICallCustard said:
Doesn't the gold actually need to get to the iron bank first though? I thought that although it had made it to kings landing it hadn't gone any further yet.
The iron bank chap seemed to make a point of saying there would continue to be support for the Lannister once the gold had arrived with them
With the way this seasons time jumping is going, I'd imagine its already there.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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ZesPak said:
yes, been thinking that since a couple of seasons
The thing is he saw it happen so going back in time to solve the issue is shear stupidity. The holdor he knew nothing about. He must have learnt from that.



ZesPak

24,420 posts

195 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
The thing is he saw it happen so going back in time to solve the issue is shear stupidity. The holdor he knew nothing about. He must have learnt from that.

I'm still believing the "burn them all" is his fault theory as well.

At this point he still has to place everything and he's having a hard time controlling his new found powers. I thought the "you looked nice that night" scene showed that, he could place the marriage but maybe not the rape that happened the same evening?

Bran the Builder, The Three Eyed Raven, Bran and the Night King are one and the same imho.

ICallCustard

163 posts

89 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Tony Starks said:
ICallCustard said:
Doesn't the gold actually need to get to the iron bank first though? I thought that although it had made it to kings landing it hadn't gone any further yet.
The iron bank chap seemed to make a point of saying there would continue to be support for the Lannister once the gold had arrived with them
With the way this seasons time jumping is going, I'd imagine its already there.
Yeah good point. I think if it turns out that the gold has gone it's another example of bits of the story seemingly being significant only then to be rushed.

Sway

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26,070 posts

193 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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ZesPak said:
The Spruce goose said:
The thing is he saw it happen so going back in time to solve the issue is shear stupidity. The holdor he knew nothing about. He must have learnt from that.

I'm still believing the "burn them all" is his fault theory as well.

At this point he still has to place everything and he's having a hard time controlling his new found powers. I thought the "you looked nice that night" scene showed that, he could place the marriage but maybe not the rape that happened the same evening?

Bran the Builder, The Three Eyed Raven, Bran and the Night King are one and the same imho.
I'd be really, really disappointed if this is the case.

Effectively, no real story, merely a weird godlike time traveller (who's actually a bit st) causing pretty much everything of note, mostly by accident.

The Hodor reveal was inspired, but from now anything more than intel or warging into a dragon/direwolf/animal army from Bran would be jumping the shark.


Pints

18,444 posts

193 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
ZesPak said:
yes, been thinking that since a couple of seasons
The thing is he saw it happen so going back in time to solve the issue is shear stupidity. The holdor he knew nothing about. He must have learnt from that.

But he wouldn't have known it was him though.

skinnyman

1,632 posts

92 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Typical Hollywood BS now.

Also, the peril of previous seasons of "who will die next" is now non-existant. Jaime managing to not drown in full battle armour was bad enough, but for Jon to get dragged into sub zero water by 2 zombies, wearing a few stone of thick furs, to swim out, and then survive a few hundred miles trek back to the wall, again soaking wet in sub zero temps, BS. He's basically never going to die, ever. And Gendry runs to the wall, a raven flies to Dani, and Dani flies north, in what seems like a few hours?

The Ice dragon thing. Yes he has a dragon now, but don't the dragons only listen to Dani? Does he basically have a feral dragon now? Or can he control it?

I've read various theories surrounding Bran as well, and if some of them are true, well that would st all over the entire series imo.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

135 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Well in some ways it's an improvement over the glacial pace of earlier seasons where it often felt like almost nothing happened, but they've gone so far the other way now it's just stupid.

There's triming things down to help the progress of the plot, and there's bending logic past breaking point. Magic, dragons, zombies are all fine if you maintain the logic but you can hardly expect people not to notice when characters are speeding across and between continents which used to take years to get around.

I suspect a bit more exposition in the dialog might help - say when waiting on the wall if someone said "it's been a week with no sign of him" you wouldn't be left with the false impression a character got home in 30 minutes from a 3 day journey. Might also help if they weren't still basically cold & wet when they got back; he should either have managed to get himself sorted or he'd have been a popsicle.


For light entertainment it's great but think about it at all and it gets annoying.


And Bran is just annoying so if the lazy plot turns out to be true and he's used as a good old Deux ex machina to loop or resolve the story (Almost pure 'a wizard did it!') it'll st all over the entire thing.

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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The thing with the glacial pace of earlier seasons is that when we got to episodes 9 and 10 of season 6, the pay off was all the sweeter and, for me, those pay offs were well worth the wait. The last two episodes of season 6 are still two of my favourite episodes.

This season (and presumably the final season) seems to have switched too far the other way, and seems to sate those with Attention Deficit Disorder (like almost all Hollywood kiddie oriented blockbusters these days). I still love and look forward to each episode, don't get me wrong, but those pay offs where we shouted 'Yes'! are probably now a thing of the past, replaced with an 'Oh...!'

confucuis

1,303 posts

123 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Whats Qyburns deal though?

He was at Harrenhall(?) gravely injured along with 200 other slaughtered Northmen loyal to Robb Stark. The Lannisters did that to him... could be be planning some sort of revenge against them in the long run?

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Sway said:
I'd be really, really disappointed if this is the case.
how could bran be the night king AND bran the builder of the wall to in effect stop himself? It is impossible unless you have some sort of Back to the Future paradox.I think peoples imagination are running wild and basically coming up with anything.

if Bran is the White Walker King, we will have to wait ten years as that is how much older he looked than 'now' bran.



Pints

18,444 posts

193 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
how could bran be the night king AND bran the builder of the wall to in effect stop himself? It is impossible unless you have some sort of Back to the Future paradox.I think peoples imagination are running wild and basically coming up with anything.

if Bran is the White Walker King, we will have to wait ten years as that is how much older he looked than 'now' bran.
But that's just it, we've already seen there's a bit of a Back to the Future thing going. Just think of Hodor and the Tower of Joy.

If he can time jump to there (or is it then?), why not time jump to earlier and try stop some of the things he knows will happen from happening, only to get caught up in it for it to become a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts?