Breaking the 4th wall

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NoVetec

9,967 posts

173 months

Sunday 27th August 2017
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At the end of Filth, in a dark comedic fashion.

Gary C

12,427 posts

179 months

Sunday 27th August 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
Spinning off an idea from the GoT thread. What are your favourite examples of breaking the 4th wall, or if you hate this tell us why.

Fight club uses it creatively for its great reveal and eXistenZ weaves the 4th wall into the layers of the narrative. Deadpool show some great self deprecating humour about the breaking the 4th wall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU3Vn3xI-kA



Edited by 4x4Tyke on Thursday 24th August 12:00
Teenage mutant hero (ninja) turtles.

Krang states they need some sort of complicated device and shredder says "and you just happen to have one ?"

Krang " well, you have to keep the story line moving"

Loved it, first experience of the 4th wall I remember

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Sunday 27th August 2017
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Deadpool was all about the 4th wall break.

Chimune

3,179 posts

223 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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mp3manager said:
The Young Ones

Neil, the bathroom's free! Unlike the country under the Thatcherite Junta!
I'm so hungry I could eat my own ear wax! And we all know how horrible that tastes, right kids?

Chimune

3,179 posts

223 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Also, a novel breakage here:

VYVYAN: [obviously reciting verbatim] Look, here comes the postman.

MIKE: Vyvyan, why do you keep telling us what's just about to happen next?

VYVYAN: Because it's a studio set, Michael, and they can't afford any
long shots.

Text from here:
www.ratman.biz/archive/young_ones/summerholiday.ht...


Lance Catamaran

24,977 posts

227 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Chimune said:
mp3manager said:
The Young Ones

Neil, the bathroom's free! Unlike the country under the Thatcherite Junta!
I'm so hungry I could eat my own ear wax! And we all know how horrible that tastes, right kids?
Oh wow, looks like the kettle killed itself rather than be used by me frown

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
A Clockwork Orange, lots of looks to camera.

Cheers.
Thought he was raising the glass to some other people in that bar looking at them.

Halmyre

11,193 posts

139 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Anthony Hopkins in 'Psycho'.

Woody Allen in 'Annie Hall'(?) when he pulls Marshall McLuhan out of a cinema queue to correct a loudmouth's views on McLuhan's work. Allen turns to the camera and says "if only real life could be like this".

WC Fields drinking a glass of milk and turning to the camera "they wouldn't let me film this in a bar".

Heavenly messenger Marius Goering arriving on earth in 'A Matter of Life and Death'. "One is so starved for Technicolor up there".


Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Halmyre said:
Anthony Hopkins in 'Psycho'.

Woody Allen in 'Annie Hall'(?) when he pulls Marshall McLuhan out of a cinema queue to correct a loudmouth's views on McLuhan's work. Allen turns to the camera and says "if only real life could be like this".

WC Fields drinking a glass of milk and turning to the camera "they wouldn't let me film this in a bar".

Heavenly messenger Marius Goering arriving on earth in 'A Matter of Life and Death'. "One is so starved for Technicolor up there".
I missed Tony in Psycho, I'll have to rewatch.

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Pesty said:
FourWheelDrift said:
A Clockwork Orange, lots of looks to camera.

Cheers.
Thought he was raising the glass to some other people in that bar looking at them.
There are instances in the film, that's just a "cheers" gif I have.

Halmyre

11,193 posts

139 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
Pesty said:
FourWheelDrift said:
A Clockwork Orange, lots of looks to camera.

Cheers.
Thought he was raising the glass to some other people in that bar looking at them.
There are instances in the film, that's just a "cheers" gif I have.
Alex is addressing the audience in the voiceover so do his looks to camera count as breaking the wall?

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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This is the first one in the film, didn't have a gif of it - https://youtu.be/JLAaUvsKljc?t=453

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Halmyre said:
Alex is addressing the audience in the voiceover so do his looks to camera count as breaking the wall?
I think it depends if the shot is a POV shot.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Halb said:
I think it depends if the shot is a POV shot.
I was wondering this earlier..

So if it's a POV shot when they're looking directly at/addressing the camera as if it's another character that's not classed as breaking the 4th wall?

It's only when they are addressing/looking at the audience (not another character) that it's classed as such?

ajprice

27,472 posts

196 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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cookie118 said:
Halb said:
I think it depends if the shot is a POV shot.
I was wondering this earlier..

So if it's a POV shot when they're looking directly at/addressing the camera as if it's another character that's not classed as breaking the 4th wall?

It's only when they are addressing/looking at the audience (not another character) that it's classed as such?
I'd go with that. Peep Show isn't 4th wall to the audience, it's character to character.

Beati Dogu

8,889 posts

139 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
I think Buster Keaton, Harold Lloyd and Charlie Chaplin, in fact probably all the silent stars did it. Probably because of their theatre and music hall training, working the audience.
Yes, Oliver Hardy's long suffering glances at the camera always make me laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzLUX2qHKQ

Edited by Beati Dogu on Monday 28th August 19:54

CSLchappie

436 posts

204 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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On Her Majesty's Secret Service, I'm pretty sure there's a moment where Lazenby turns to the camera and says something along the lines of 'well that didn't happen to the other guy'

SpudLink

5,775 posts

192 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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CSLchappie said:
On Her Majesty's Secret Service, I'm pretty sure there's a moment where Lazenby turns to the camera and says something along the lines of 'well that didn't happen to the other guy'
Yes he does. ( Although I think it's "well that never happen to the other guy", but I'm splitting hairs.)

Does narration or voice over count as breaking the 4th wall? It's obviously aimed at the audience. Or is narration excluded because it's a story telling convention?

ThunderSpook

3,612 posts

211 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Shilvers said:
I think this needs more appreciation biggrin

DJFish

5,921 posts

263 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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We're the Millers, at 00:50, not exactly pornography but also not exactly safe for work either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQs-Cx5O-k0