100 year old driving school. ITV.
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This is interesting. Quite emotional that these people would lose so much not having transport. But quite scary that the chap at 101 when asked about what the parked cars on the left might mean answered "that they probably haven't got garages" and doesn't have the time to spare to read the Highway Code...
I only saw the last 15 minutes or so but I was surprised the "examiner" was okay with the London chap who MLMed and seemed
to be not too good with the indicators.
The 101 year old scooter driver seems to be very fit for his age but I'm comparing him to my 88 year old dad who's health
is quite poor.
to be not too good with the indicators.
The 101 year old scooter driver seems to be very fit for his age but I'm comparing him to my 88 year old dad who's health
is quite poor.
Then again you could find a bunch of elderly drivers who would put younger ones to shame.
Yes there was some shocking drivers there, then again we see silimiar antics on a daily basis. Only yesterday I was on a straight road intending to turn right, so I am in the middle of the road on my MTB, clearly waiting to turn, bus coming, not much else, a quite area, now some buses turn down the road I want to turn into and some don't.
So I am watching and waiting, about 3 yards from the corner bus indicates left, barsteward. Then again most indicate well in advance, plus the usual tard who moves into L2 of a dual carriageway half a mile before the roundabout, usually below the NSL so no one can pass them.
Take care out there guys.
Yes there was some shocking drivers there, then again we see silimiar antics on a daily basis. Only yesterday I was on a straight road intending to turn right, so I am in the middle of the road on my MTB, clearly waiting to turn, bus coming, not much else, a quite area, now some buses turn down the road I want to turn into and some don't.
So I am watching and waiting, about 3 yards from the corner bus indicates left, barsteward. Then again most indicate well in advance, plus the usual tard who moves into L2 of a dual carriageway half a mile before the roundabout, usually below the NSL so no one can pass them.
Take care out there guys.
If you want to talk piss poor driving let me tell you a story from the weekend.
We're driving down a single lane NSL road on the way out of our town and my gf looks in the rear view and sees an emergency vehicle barrelling up the road behind us still some distance away. As it gets closer she reduces her speed and pulls in so that it can pass safely, except the d
head behind us who clearly hasn't been paying attention slams on his horn and proceeds to overtake us, slowing right down in the process so the driver and his wife (in their 50s) can look at us as they pass and hurl abuse at us. At the same time as this is happening the police X5 (that had been hurtling towards us with it's lights flashing and sirens blaring) slams on his brakes, narrowly avoids rear ending the dhead and jumps on the horn for good measure. Cue dhead quickly pulling in so the X5 can pass.
A little while later the road splits into two lanes and we overtake him, as we pass I look over at the couple, both of whom proceed to start hurling abuse again.
Why can't people hold their hands up and accept they fked up?
We're driving down a single lane NSL road on the way out of our town and my gf looks in the rear view and sees an emergency vehicle barrelling up the road behind us still some distance away. As it gets closer she reduces her speed and pulls in so that it can pass safely, except the d
head behind us who clearly hasn't been paying attention slams on his horn and proceeds to overtake us, slowing right down in the process so the driver and his wife (in their 50s) can look at us as they pass and hurl abuse at us. At the same time as this is happening the police X5 (that had been hurtling towards us with it's lights flashing and sirens blaring) slams on his brakes, narrowly avoids rear ending the dhead and jumps on the horn for good measure. Cue dhead quickly pulling in so the X5 can pass. A little while later the road splits into two lanes and we overtake him, as we pass I look over at the couple, both of whom proceed to start hurling abuse again.
Why can't people hold their hands up and accept they f
ked up?Gretchen said:
But quite scary that the chap at 101 when asked about what the parked cars on the left might mean answered "that they probably haven't got garages"
Great chap, ex Lieutenant Commander of torpedoed Destroyer, appeared to be a reasonably good driver for his age. Driving since 1935. I have seen far far worse drivers less than half his age.Great sense of humour. Reckon the above garage reply was irony. Ditto his comments regarding not needing to wear glasses whilst driving although he clearly couldn't read a numberplate without them.
av185 said:
Gretchen said:
But quite scary that the chap at 101 when asked about what the parked cars on the left might mean answered "that they probably haven't got garages"
Great chap, ex Lieutenant Commander of torpedoed Destroyer, appeared to be a reasonably good driver for his age. Driving since 1935. I have seen far far worse drivers less than half his age.Great sense of humour. Reckon the above garage reply was irony. Ditto his comments regarding not needing to wear glasses whilst driving although he clearly couldn't read a numberplate without them.
. Think that was the guy at the end it said he died this year.Email sent...
Dear RoSPA,
I found myself watching your '100 year old driving school’ programme on TV last night and feel compelled to give you some feedback.
Although some of the drivers were undoubtably impressive for their age, I was shocked at the standard of others and even more shocked that RoSPA deemed some of them safe to continue on our roads. Of particular note was the old lady in the red car who seemed very unaware of her surroundings, inaccurate in pretty much all of her inputs and who was clearly cognitively challenged. There is no way on earth she could pass even a standard driving test and she should have been told in no uncertain terms to give up her licence for the safety of others. The fact that she was simply advised to get an automatic car in order to extend her driving career for as long as possible beggars belief. Sadly as a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian I regularly have to share the roads with such drivers and they’re a dangerous menace.
A golden opportunity was missed with this programme. It could have been focussed in such a way as to try and prick the consciences of any selfish older drivers who were watching, and also to be used a tool of persuasion for those who are in the unenviable position of trying to encourage an older relative to hang up their car keys. Instead it seemed to condone dangerous behaviour, make light of incompetence and rubber stamp selfish disregard.
I had always held RoSPA up to be the gold standard in the UK with regards to driving and driver training, but clearly this has changed and standards have been allowed to seriously slip.
Yours sincerely...
Dear RoSPA,
I found myself watching your '100 year old driving school’ programme on TV last night and feel compelled to give you some feedback.
Although some of the drivers were undoubtably impressive for their age, I was shocked at the standard of others and even more shocked that RoSPA deemed some of them safe to continue on our roads. Of particular note was the old lady in the red car who seemed very unaware of her surroundings, inaccurate in pretty much all of her inputs and who was clearly cognitively challenged. There is no way on earth she could pass even a standard driving test and she should have been told in no uncertain terms to give up her licence for the safety of others. The fact that she was simply advised to get an automatic car in order to extend her driving career for as long as possible beggars belief. Sadly as a motorist, cyclist and pedestrian I regularly have to share the roads with such drivers and they’re a dangerous menace.
A golden opportunity was missed with this programme. It could have been focussed in such a way as to try and prick the consciences of any selfish older drivers who were watching, and also to be used a tool of persuasion for those who are in the unenviable position of trying to encourage an older relative to hang up their car keys. Instead it seemed to condone dangerous behaviour, make light of incompetence and rubber stamp selfish disregard.
I had always held RoSPA up to be the gold standard in the UK with regards to driving and driver training, but clearly this has changed and standards have been allowed to seriously slip.
Yours sincerely...
poing said:
Vipers said:
Most scarey one so far is the woman in the red car, glad I don't live near her.
Was that the one that didn't take criticism too well? She's the reason we need re-tests.I'm no expert but that would strike me as a more sensible approach.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
poing said:
Vipers said:
Most scarey one so far is the woman in the red car, glad I don't live near her.
Was that the one that didn't take criticism too well? She's the reason we need re-tests.I'm no expert but that would strike me as a more sensible approach.
Where does she live so I can avoide her.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
poing said:
Vipers said:
Most scarey one so far is the woman in the red car, glad I don't live near her.
Was that the one that didn't take criticism too well? She's the reason we need re-tests.I'm no expert but that would strike me as a more sensible approach.
I'd make everyone, regardless of age, take a test every 10 years. She was merely a single extreme example of why it's needed. I'm certain there are drivers half her age that are equally as bad.
poing said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
poing said:
Vipers said:
Most scarey one so far is the woman in the red car, glad I don't live near her.
Was that the one that didn't take criticism too well? She's the reason we need re-tests.I'm no expert but that would strike me as a more sensible approach.
I'd make everyone, regardless of age, take a test every 10 years. She was merely a single extreme example of why it's needed. I'm certain there are drivers half her age that are equally as bad.
Vipers said:
Although it's been thrashed to death, what if you fail? I have tried a few on line HC questions, and it's so easy to get a fail by getting a few questions wrong. Give it a go.
In simple terms, without getting into all the details on this thread, you get extra tuition and take another test.poing said:
Nope.
I'd make everyone, regardless of age, take a test every 10 years.
Based on 40m drivers in the UK and 250 working days a year, that's 16000 tests a day. That doesn't include retests for those that fail or tests for new drivers that we have going thru daily now. . Care to enlighten us on the actual logistics of how you're going to make this work. After all, I'm sure you haven't just said "retest everyone every 10 years" without having some plan as to how it will work. I'd make everyone, regardless of age, take a test every 10 years.
And what happens when you fail. Kids need picking up from school, people have to get to work, to do their jobs. One assumes you'll need to take someone with you to the test in case you fail and can't drive back unaccompanied?
But i'm sure you've thought this thru, so let's hear the plan.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Based on 40m drivers in the UK and 250 working days a year, that's 16000 tests a day. That doesn't include retests for those that fail or tests for new drivers that we have going thru daily now. . Care to enlighten us on the actual logistics of how you're going to make this work. After all, I'm sure you haven't just said "retest everyone every 10 years" without having some plan as to how it will work.
And what happens when you fail. Kids need picking up from school, people have to get to work, to do their jobs. One assumes you'll need to take someone with you to the test in case you fail and can't drive back unaccompanied?
But i'm sure you've thought this thru, so let's hear the plan.
Computerised test rather than practical? So questions on highway code (driving laws will change in a decade) and the Hazard Perception thing too. Maybe every 20 years would be easier. My health, reactions, eyesight etc will be a lot different at 40 than they were at 20. And what happens when you fail. Kids need picking up from school, people have to get to work, to do their jobs. One assumes you'll need to take someone with you to the test in case you fail and can't drive back unaccompanied?
But i'm sure you've thought this thru, so let's hear the plan.
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