Looking for a 4.5 (standard or RR)
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I have been searching for a 4.5 in either standard or RR variant for a while now.
Can't seem to find a mint example which isn't being heavily marked up by dealers.
Are there any other avenues to find a nice one?
Where do owners typically advertise private sales? TVR CC?
Thanks for any advice.
Can't seem to find a mint example which isn't being heavily marked up by dealers.
Are there any other avenues to find a nice one?
Where do owners typically advertise private sales? TVR CC?
Thanks for any advice.
Edited by y700suf on Monday 25th September 12:20
Hi,
Hoping not come across as too condescending but........what's your budget as mint 4.5 let alone 4.5 RR 's aren't goin to be cheap!! You will have pay top whack in fact.
And here's why.......
Any mint cerbera owner Wanting to sell is very unlikely to sell privately....they will either be wanting another tvr ( sag, t350, classic or a new one even ), or they will want best price for their car.........so they either trade in against the one they want or they sale or return through one of the well known dealers.
They get the best price for their cars, maximum exposure to people who want to venture into Cerbera ownership and none of the wanting test drives every five minutes with no intention of buying or dreamers who think they can do a Mike Brewer.
The new buyers gets most likely dealer warranty and the car get inspected before sale a full service and MoT.
Added to the fact that these cars are rising in price quite nicely at the moment, dealers often offer finance which also helps the selling process.
So not wanting to pay a mark up still from a known reputable dealer......sure each to their own.....best place to search is pistonheads for sale section........
Have you a sensible budget? Because if a car is cheap....it's usually cheap for a reson!
Best off luck I hope you find one which suits your budget......they really are epic!
Hoping not come across as too condescending but........what's your budget as mint 4.5 let alone 4.5 RR 's aren't goin to be cheap!! You will have pay top whack in fact.
And here's why.......
Any mint cerbera owner Wanting to sell is very unlikely to sell privately....they will either be wanting another tvr ( sag, t350, classic or a new one even ), or they will want best price for their car.........so they either trade in against the one they want or they sale or return through one of the well known dealers.
They get the best price for their cars, maximum exposure to people who want to venture into Cerbera ownership and none of the wanting test drives every five minutes with no intention of buying or dreamers who think they can do a Mike Brewer.
The new buyers gets most likely dealer warranty and the car get inspected before sale a full service and MoT.
Added to the fact that these cars are rising in price quite nicely at the moment, dealers often offer finance which also helps the selling process.
So not wanting to pay a mark up still from a known reputable dealer......sure each to their own.....best place to search is pistonheads for sale section........
Have you a sensible budget? Because if a car is cheap....it's usually cheap for a reson!
Best off luck I hope you find one which suits your budget......they really are epic!
Thekraken, thanks for your thoughts. Not condescending at all.
I was thinking up to £30K but there are some seemingly high mileages ones being advertised on PH in the £30-40K range!
I am not an expert by any means so would appreciate any thoughts on what an appropriate budget should be.
I was thinking up to £30K but there are some seemingly high mileages ones being advertised on PH in the £30-40K range!
I am not an expert by any means so would appreciate any thoughts on what an appropriate budget should be.
I should think for your budget you should be able to find a very nice example !!!
Personally I wouldn't write the dealers off as a top car will most likely be very well known to the dealers......they service and maintain them.....also they will be the best people to really quiz about the cars.......
Any enough of the dealer plugging, if you find one privately that you like.....get it inspected!
You won't regret shelling out for the inspection !
I wouldn't write off the rest of the range either! 4.2 s and speed sixes are also amazing! Ignore the banter bs.....it's mainly willy waving! And in the 4.2 case a late 4.2 is a 4.5 anyway!!! Just different inlets/injectors.
In short......happy hunting!!
Personally I wouldn't write the dealers off as a top car will most likely be very well known to the dealers......they service and maintain them.....also they will be the best people to really quiz about the cars.......
Any enough of the dealer plugging, if you find one privately that you like.....get it inspected!
You won't regret shelling out for the inspection !
I wouldn't write off the rest of the range either! 4.2 s and speed sixes are also amazing! Ignore the banter bs.....it's mainly willy waving! And in the 4.2 case a late 4.2 is a 4.5 anyway!!! Just different inlets/injectors.
In short......happy hunting!!
y700suf said:
I have been searching for a 4.5 in either standard or RR variant for a while now.
Can't seem to find a mint example which isn't being heavily marked up by dealers.
Are there any other avenues to find a nice one?
Where do owners typically advertise private sales? TVR CC?
Thanks for any advice.
Hi m8, I was recently putting my 4.5 mark 2 up for sale with Bespoke Performance but they picked up on clutch judder and minor synchro issue on 5th gear, so I've taken it back and replaced the clutch, all new gearbox internals, machined flywheel surface, race proved slave, partly done under warranty, so looking at getting it back up for sale. We were looking at asking around £29995 with all dealer facilities but I'd be happy to discuss a deal, if you're interested. PM me if so and I'll share the details.Can't seem to find a mint example which isn't being heavily marked up by dealers.
Are there any other avenues to find a nice one?
Where do owners typically advertise private sales? TVR CC?
Thanks for any advice.
Edited by y700suf on Monday 25th September 12:20
y700suf said:
Fair question on mileage.
For a mint example, I would think sub-25K miles, i.e. driven enough so that the car gets a good run periodically but not used as a daily driver?
You have to understand a TVR needs to be driven (unless you're looking for an investment piece of art rather than something to enjoy on the road). 1500 miles per year is barely enough so it might look mint but underneath its going to be groaning. Think of it as a throughbred racehorse confined to a paddock. The beauty of TVR's is you can repaint, retrim and detail to make it look mint (and that's definitely not how they emerged from the factory.....) but if its not getting the exercise in its legs it can be a whole heap of trouble.For a mint example, I would think sub-25K miles, i.e. driven enough so that the car gets a good run periodically but not used as a daily driver?
You don't publish your car history but if you're used to modern, mass market metal where mileage generally does relate to condition then bin all that thinking when looking for the right TVR.
y700suf said:
Understood.
My car history is varied (see below) but it seems like the TVR is a different animal!
2007 Audi RS4
1979 Ferrari 308 GTB
2009 AM Vantage V8
2008 Audi R8 V8
2007 Audi TT
1985 BMW 325
Ah yezz, zee TVR ees not bilt bei Germans My car history is varied (see below) but it seems like the TVR is a different animal!
2007 Audi RS4
1979 Ferrari 308 GTB
2009 AM Vantage V8
2008 Audi R8 V8
2007 Audi TT
1985 BMW 325
You'll learn ! Go see, be open minded and reserve some of your budget for the things you need to. A basically sound £20k car will buy a lot of zero-time refurbing at your budget and then you can spec the cosmetics how you like, just like buying a new one !
Agree with the sentiments of the above posts.
Looking at your car history you must have had to be quite comfortable with and been able to spend decent money on maintenance.
Even so, a 30k car which hasn't really been driven much with only 20-30k miles most likely hasn't had an engine rebuild by someone good yet. That could soon be one huge bill lurking as yet undetected.
It might not have had the chassis ripped out and taken care of properly either because of it not yet quite having gotten to being necessary, but it will be. They all will need it at some point.
In addition to this, through lack of use things deteriorate and problems develop when the car but starts being run more often.
Again, this is why you need to bin your thinking on mileage in relation to TVRs. A car with two or three times that mileage which has been driven often and had these things taken care of already is going to be a far better prospect. More reliable, more enjoyable and probably faster if the engine and setup has been done by the best.
From my experience I think I'll always advise that an engine rebuild by the best should be the top priority of any prospective buyer.
Looking at your car history you must have had to be quite comfortable with and been able to spend decent money on maintenance.
Even so, a 30k car which hasn't really been driven much with only 20-30k miles most likely hasn't had an engine rebuild by someone good yet. That could soon be one huge bill lurking as yet undetected.
It might not have had the chassis ripped out and taken care of properly either because of it not yet quite having gotten to being necessary, but it will be. They all will need it at some point.
In addition to this, through lack of use things deteriorate and problems develop when the car but starts being run more often.
Again, this is why you need to bin your thinking on mileage in relation to TVRs. A car with two or three times that mileage which has been driven often and had these things taken care of already is going to be a far better prospect. More reliable, more enjoyable and probably faster if the engine and setup has been done by the best.
From my experience I think I'll always advise that an engine rebuild by the best should be the top priority of any prospective buyer.
Wow, that Staright Six car is amazing as a package - the safety is built in at that price (12k service plus parts and labour warranty on "wear and tear" items)!!! You cannot go wrong for the first 12 months of ownership.
Ok 40k is a lot but the "package" is worth it along with it being a Red Rose car too as that will hold its value even moreso than a standard V8. If the OP is not handy with the spanners then a deal of this nature must be the way to go?
Ok 40k is a lot but the "package" is worth it along with it being a Red Rose car too as that will hold its value even moreso than a standard V8. If the OP is not handy with the spanners then a deal of this nature must be the way to go?
Very helpful comments, thanks.
Coincidentally, the RR at Str8six is one I've been following since it was being prepared.
At that price point though, you'd be able to pick up a F Type which arguably has similar levels of drama as the Cerbera given its misfires and exhaust setup.
Some or most of you might consider that blasphemy of course!
More importantly, is the premium for the RR worth it given you can replicate the setup by using a standard 4.5 as I understand?
Coincidentally, the RR at Str8six is one I've been following since it was being prepared.
At that price point though, you'd be able to pick up a F Type which arguably has similar levels of drama as the Cerbera given its misfires and exhaust setup.
Some or most of you might consider that blasphemy of course!
More importantly, is the premium for the RR worth it given you can replicate the setup by using a standard 4.5 as I understand?
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