Blade runner 2049

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SpudLink

5,669 posts

191 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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I was tired after a long day staring at a computer screen, so it wasn’t the ideal viewing experience. I will reserve judgment until I’ve seen it again. At the moment I thing it’s very good, but not a film that people will keep returning to for 3 decades.

I consider the original BR to be the definition what good sci-fi cinema can be, more so than 2001 Space Odyssey. I saw it when it was first released, and it looked like a genuine portrayal of what the world would look like in a few decades. (Obviously it’s not how the future has turned out, but just because Ridley Scott is a visionary, doesn’t mean he’s a clairvoyant.)
Over the years, I’ve watched the different versions, and found something new to appreciate each time.

2049 could not have hoped to match the original in terms of being a ground breaking landmark. As a sequel, I would say it’s as good as it could hope to have been. As a technical exercise I think it’s worthy of Ridley Scott himself.

The themes of artificial humanity are there, but in the years since BR we’ve seen this stuff explored often on film and TV. (The recent Westworld covered this ground brilliantly.)

It’s a world that is set a few years on from the world of the original, instead of feeling like the future of the real world. That’s unavoidable I guess, but it made it feel less ‘daring’.

Anyway, those are my ‘morning after’ thoughts.

Oh, and Ryan Gosling still doesn’t have the charisma to carry a blockbuster movie.

Disastrous

10,072 posts

216 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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SpudLink said:
I was tired after a long day staring at a computer screen, so it wasn’t the ideal viewing experience. I will reserve judgment until I’ve seen it again. At the moment I thing it’s very good, but not a film that people will keep returning to for 3 decades.

I consider the original BR to be the definition what good sci-fi cinema can be, more so than 2001 Space Odyssey. I saw it when it was first released, and it looked like a genuine portrayal of what the world would look like in a few decades. (Obviously it’s not how the future has turned out, but just because Ridley Scott is a visionary, doesn’t mean he’s a clairvoyant.)
Over the years, I’ve watched the different versions, and found something new to appreciate each time.

2049 could not have hoped to match the original in terms of being a ground breaking landmark. As a sequel, I would say it’s as good as it could hope to have been. As a technical exercise I think it’s worthy of Ridley Scott himself.

The themes of artificial humanity are there, but in the years since BR we’ve seen this stuff explored often on film and TV. (The recent Westworld covered this ground brilliantly.)

It’s a world that is set a few years on from the world of the original, instead of feeling like the future of the real world. That’s unavoidable I guess, but it made it feel less ‘daring’.

Anyway, those are my ‘morning after’ thoughts.

Oh, and Ryan Gosling still doesn’t have the charisma to carry a blockbuster movie.
I think that’s a very good review.

It simply can’t be as significant as the original, because as you note, this has been dealt with a lot in films following the original.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Astonishing.

Original film second ( to me ) only to 2001 , 2049 is a visual and sonic masterpiece .


Escapegoat

5,135 posts

134 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049.

Killer2005

19,595 posts

227 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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superkartracer said:
Astonishing.

Original film second ( to me ) only to 2001 , 2049 is a visual and sonic masterpiece .
I'd agree with this. It's brilliant.

Sa Calobra

37,010 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Going to see this today. I grew up with Blade runner, I know the bloody words especially Roy's memorable ones word for word! So I'm sceptical and scared it'll be a mess. I think Trainspotting 2 was terrible. Again I grew up with Trainspotting and I remember watching it on a rerelease at the cinema 2years ago and being smitten still.

As for Ryan- it's good that he's not a big name. It should be about the characters and film not a big star ego vehicle. That's why Dredd2 worked soo well.

Will report back..

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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shakotan said:
Depending on which part you're quoting, it's either "[Is] that part of the test?", or "Is this to be an empathy test?"
What's all this carp about a test?

SpudLink

5,669 posts

191 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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anonymous said:
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Digger

14,591 posts

190 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Escapegoat said:
Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049.
Which bit of the film was this?

Sa Calobra

37,010 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Prometheus is to alien what 2049 is to Blade Runner.

Awful and self indulgently an hour too long.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

134 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Digger said:
Escapegoat said:
Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049.
Which bit of the film was this?
Sorry; badly phrased/edited. What I meant was BR2049 lacks these sorts of memorable moments.

TheTrash

1,847 posts

205 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Sa Calobra said:
Prometheus is to alien what 2049 is to Blade Runner.

Awful and self indulgently an hour too long.
Awful? Did you watch the same film as I did?

Sa Calobra

37,010 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Hopefully I watched a foreign copy

'Youve got 48hours before they come for you'.

Ok, so he went on a trip but when he came back still no LAPD came for him but initially after he went to see the girl he was arrested on the spot.

Where was the story? It seemed one dimensional

Digger

14,591 posts

190 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Escapegoat said:
Digger said:
Escapegoat said:
Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049.
Which bit of the film was this?
Sorry; badly phrased/edited. What I meant was BR2049 lacks these sorts of memorable moments.
No no my fault, I was wondering which scene Disastrous was referring to. I've now read up above and deduced it's the girl-falling-through-glass scene. smile

checkmate91

851 posts

172 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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SpudLink said:
Oh, and Ryan Gosling still doesn’t have the charisma to carry a blockbuster movie.
Strongly agree, he came to my attention in Drive but I have to say it was Carey Mulligan who Stole the show for me!

I saw the original cinematic release of Blade Runner in 1982 with the then yet-to-be Mrs Checkmate and I think I've got the directors cut/alternative ending on DVD. Wife and I loved the original at the time and my 2 boys (now in their 20's) were blown away by the original when we first introduced them to it around 10 years ago. One of them "thinks he might see this one" the other "eh, what..."

Skywalker

3,269 posts

213 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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superkartracer said:
Astonishing.

...2049 is a visual and sonic masterpiece .
Absolutely loved it this afternoon in 3D. Stunning and really flicks the cerebellum on a number of levels. Without blowing spoilers, some lovely continuity to the original. Some excellent characters and in no way was it a wk story propped up with CGI. I think I need to let this one sink in and maybe catch it a second time.
I have to say, had a slight headache with the 3D glasses - but they really added to some of the scenes.
Loved it and would recommend it.

Disastrous

10,072 posts

216 months

Saturday 7th October 2017
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Digger said:
Escapegoat said:
Digger said:
Escapegoat said:
Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049.
Which bit of the film was this?
Sorry; badly phrased/edited. What I meant was BR2049 lacks these sorts of memorable moments.
No no my fault, I was wondering which scene Disastrous was referring to. I've now read up above and deduced it's the girl-falling-through-glass scene. smile
Indeed - the very one smile

I’ve been mulling 2049 over all day and I think what it misses is the sense of grotesque and quirky that the original had:

The weird fashions, the hideous people partying at Taffy Lewis’ bar, the oriental flavour to it all...it felt like being a tourist in a strangely familiar and yet unsettling alien city.

I was in Shanghai for the first time this year and felt that strange disconnection from something ostensibly familiar, but it was lacking in 2049.

deltaevo16

755 posts

170 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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Have been really looking forward to this. Watched it 3D with Dolby Atmos sound. Felt it overly long, I’m a big fan of Zimmers soundtracks, but this was no where near as good as as the Vangelis one.

I thought overall that it never quite reached the level of the original, the dark dystopian rain sodden eclectic landscape of the first was quite wonderous, and very immersing.

So a six out of 10 for me.

Tony Starks

2,089 posts

211 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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It certainly was an hour too long. Whilst it was an ok film, to me it tried too hard to be arty.

Visually it was good, but not a patch on the original. And I didnt get the love interest element.

TheTrash

1,847 posts

205 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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Sa Calobra said:
Hopefully I watched a foreign copy

'Youve got 48hours before they come for you'.

Ok, so he went on a trip but when he came back still no LAPD came for him but initially after he went to see the girl he was arrested on the spot.

Where was the story? It seemed one dimensional
Maybe it was to subtle for you, but there definitely was a story there and a good continuation from the original.