Blade runner 2049
Discussion
I was tired after a long day staring at a computer screen, so it wasn’t the ideal viewing experience. I will reserve judgment until I’ve seen it again. At the moment I thing it’s very good, but not a film that people will keep returning to for 3 decades.
I consider the original BR to be the definition what good sci-fi cinema can be, more so than 2001 Space Odyssey. I saw it when it was first released, and it looked like a genuine portrayal of what the world would look like in a few decades. (Obviously it’s not how the future has turned out, but just because Ridley Scott is a visionary, doesn’t mean he’s a clairvoyant.)
Over the years, I’ve watched the different versions, and found something new to appreciate each time.
2049 could not have hoped to match the original in terms of being a ground breaking landmark. As a sequel, I would say it’s as good as it could hope to have been. As a technical exercise I think it’s worthy of Ridley Scott himself.
The themes of artificial humanity are there, but in the years since BR we’ve seen this stuff explored often on film and TV. (The recent Westworld covered this ground brilliantly.)
It’s a world that is set a few years on from the world of the original, instead of feeling like the future of the real world. That’s unavoidable I guess, but it made it feel less ‘daring’.
Anyway, those are my ‘morning after’ thoughts.
Oh, and Ryan Gosling still doesn’t have the charisma to carry a blockbuster movie.
I consider the original BR to be the definition what good sci-fi cinema can be, more so than 2001 Space Odyssey. I saw it when it was first released, and it looked like a genuine portrayal of what the world would look like in a few decades. (Obviously it’s not how the future has turned out, but just because Ridley Scott is a visionary, doesn’t mean he’s a clairvoyant.)
Over the years, I’ve watched the different versions, and found something new to appreciate each time.
2049 could not have hoped to match the original in terms of being a ground breaking landmark. As a sequel, I would say it’s as good as it could hope to have been. As a technical exercise I think it’s worthy of Ridley Scott himself.
The themes of artificial humanity are there, but in the years since BR we’ve seen this stuff explored often on film and TV. (The recent Westworld covered this ground brilliantly.)
It’s a world that is set a few years on from the world of the original, instead of feeling like the future of the real world. That’s unavoidable I guess, but it made it feel less ‘daring’.
Anyway, those are my ‘morning after’ thoughts.
Oh, and Ryan Gosling still doesn’t have the charisma to carry a blockbuster movie.
SpudLink said:
I was tired after a long day staring at a computer screen, so it wasn’t the ideal viewing experience. I will reserve judgment until I’ve seen it again. At the moment I thing it’s very good, but not a film that people will keep returning to for 3 decades.
I consider the original BR to be the definition what good sci-fi cinema can be, more so than 2001 Space Odyssey. I saw it when it was first released, and it looked like a genuine portrayal of what the world would look like in a few decades. (Obviously it’s not how the future has turned out, but just because Ridley Scott is a visionary, doesn’t mean he’s a clairvoyant.)
Over the years, I’ve watched the different versions, and found something new to appreciate each time.
2049 could not have hoped to match the original in terms of being a ground breaking landmark. As a sequel, I would say it’s as good as it could hope to have been. As a technical exercise I think it’s worthy of Ridley Scott himself.
The themes of artificial humanity are there, but in the years since BR we’ve seen this stuff explored often on film and TV. (The recent Westworld covered this ground brilliantly.)
It’s a world that is set a few years on from the world of the original, instead of feeling like the future of the real world. That’s unavoidable I guess, but it made it feel less ‘daring’.
Anyway, those are my ‘morning after’ thoughts.
Oh, and Ryan Gosling still doesn’t have the charisma to carry a blockbuster movie.
I think that’s a very good review. I consider the original BR to be the definition what good sci-fi cinema can be, more so than 2001 Space Odyssey. I saw it when it was first released, and it looked like a genuine portrayal of what the world would look like in a few decades. (Obviously it’s not how the future has turned out, but just because Ridley Scott is a visionary, doesn’t mean he’s a clairvoyant.)
Over the years, I’ve watched the different versions, and found something new to appreciate each time.
2049 could not have hoped to match the original in terms of being a ground breaking landmark. As a sequel, I would say it’s as good as it could hope to have been. As a technical exercise I think it’s worthy of Ridley Scott himself.
The themes of artificial humanity are there, but in the years since BR we’ve seen this stuff explored often on film and TV. (The recent Westworld covered this ground brilliantly.)
It’s a world that is set a few years on from the world of the original, instead of feeling like the future of the real world. That’s unavoidable I guess, but it made it feel less ‘daring’.
Anyway, those are my ‘morning after’ thoughts.
Oh, and Ryan Gosling still doesn’t have the charisma to carry a blockbuster movie.
It simply can’t be as significant as the original, because as you note, this has been dealt with a lot in films following the original.
Going to see this today. I grew up with Blade runner, I know the bloody words especially Roy's memorable ones word for word! So I'm sceptical and scared it'll be a mess. I think Trainspotting 2 was terrible. Again I grew up with Trainspotting and I remember watching it on a rerelease at the cinema 2years ago and being smitten still.
As for Ryan- it's good that he's not a big name. It should be about the characters and film not a big star ego vehicle. That's why Dredd2 worked soo well.
Will report back..
As for Ryan- it's good that he's not a big name. It should be about the characters and film not a big star ego vehicle. That's why Dredd2 worked soo well.
Will report back..
Escapegoat said:
Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049. Digger said:
Escapegoat said:
Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049. Escapegoat said:
Digger said:
Escapegoat said:
Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049. SpudLink said:
Oh, and Ryan Gosling still doesn’t have the charisma to carry a blockbuster movie.
Strongly agree, he came to my attention in Drive but I have to say it was Carey Mulligan who Stole the show for me!I saw the original cinematic release of Blade Runner in 1982 with the then yet-to-be Mrs Checkmate and I think I've got the directors cut/alternative ending on DVD. Wife and I loved the original at the time and my 2 boys (now in their 20's) were blown away by the original when we first introduced them to it around 10 years ago. One of them "thinks he might see this one" the other "eh, what..."
superkartracer said:
Astonishing.
...2049 is a visual and sonic masterpiece .
Absolutely loved it this afternoon in 3D. Stunning and really flicks the cerebellum on a number of levels. Without blowing spoilers, some lovely continuity to the original. Some excellent characters and in no way was it a wk story propped up with CGI. I think I need to let this one sink in and maybe catch it a second time. ...2049 is a visual and sonic masterpiece .
I have to say, had a slight headache with the 3D glasses - but they really added to some of the scenes.
Loved it and would recommend it.
Digger said:
Escapegoat said:
Digger said:
Escapegoat said:
Disastrous said:
One of my favourite scenes in the film - when Blade Runner Blues kicks in as all the background sound stops and it moves to slow-motion is just sublime film making.
This ^ And that's one of the many disappointments of BR2049. I’ve been mulling 2049 over all day and I think what it misses is the sense of grotesque and quirky that the original had:
The weird fashions, the hideous people partying at Taffy Lewis’ bar, the oriental flavour to it all...it felt like being a tourist in a strangely familiar and yet unsettling alien city.
I was in Shanghai for the first time this year and felt that strange disconnection from something ostensibly familiar, but it was lacking in 2049.
Have been really looking forward to this. Watched it 3D with Dolby Atmos sound. Felt it overly long, I’m a big fan of Zimmers soundtracks, but this was no where near as good as as the Vangelis one.
I thought overall that it never quite reached the level of the original, the dark dystopian rain sodden eclectic landscape of the first was quite wonderous, and very immersing.
So a six out of 10 for me.
I thought overall that it never quite reached the level of the original, the dark dystopian rain sodden eclectic landscape of the first was quite wonderous, and very immersing.
So a six out of 10 for me.
Sa Calobra said:
Hopefully I watched a foreign copy
'Youve got 48hours before they come for you'.
Ok, so he went on a trip but when he came back still no LAPD came for him but initially after he went to see the girl he was arrested on the spot.
Where was the story? It seemed one dimensional
Maybe it was to subtle for you, but there definitely was a story there and a good continuation from the original. 'Youve got 48hours before they come for you'.
Ok, so he went on a trip but when he came back still no LAPD came for him but initially after he went to see the girl he was arrested on the spot.
Where was the story? It seemed one dimensional
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