The Punisher

[ben5575]

wjb said:

Season 2 trailer.

https://youtu.be/jrLhP5sK2wI

fk. Yeah.

[Halb]

Not seen the first series, but I hope 1&2 are good, because the odds are this is the PUnisher, he won't be seen in a different variation for a loooooooooong time.
If Disney can swallow the pill, maybe he'll pop up on a hulu/D+ film.

[Tankrizzo]

My body is ready. And Alice In Chains as a soundtrack too....banging.

[wjb]

Halb said:

Not seen the first series.

Make time for punisher S1, it's superb, up with daredevil S2 at the top for me.

[Troubleatmill]

Punisher S1 was a slow burn - but worth it.

Hope S2 tops it.

[james_tigerwoods]

Oh my.... I hope they are all released at the same time

[RemyMartin81D]

Winning.

S1 was my favourite show in an age. Always been a huge Frank Castle fan.

[Butter Face]

That looks great, can’t wait.

[marksx]

Season 2 now on Netflix

[HighwayStar]

marksx said:

Season 2 now on Netflix

I'm just finishing up Season 1. I thought I'd revisit it before getting strapped in for S2.
Netflix really nailed it with the writing, the well developed characters all mixed with drama and brutal violence.
Looking forward to what come next... I've even avoided the new trailer, I just want to see it fresh.
I'm wondering if this will go the way of the other Marvel stuff by Netflix and be cancelled... With Disney now owning Marvel and launching their own streaming service to rival Netflix and Amazon Prime.

[Bullett]

I started a thread on the Mandalorian and Disney's streaming service.
It was stated by Disney that their streaming service would be "family friendly" so no Punisher etc.

[HighwayStar]

Bullett said:

I started a thread on the Mandalorian and Disney's streaming service.
It was stated by Disney that their streaming service would be "family friendly" so no Punisher etc.

Yep, this is the problem. Buying 20th Century Fox has brought Marvel into Disney's fold. All the Marvel TV stuff was made by Netflix on behalf of Marvel.
Disney don't want to compete with a Netflix airing productions with characters Disney now owns. It's a shame, Luke Cage and Daredevil, season 4 of that show had been written, have already been cancelled. This is why we've seen Netflix ramping up their own production series and movies, replacing product that will be pulled from their platform by the major studios. It's going to be a fierce battleground.

[DoctorX]

Excellent first episode

[Halb]

HighwayStar said:

Bullett said:

I started a thread on the Mandalorian and Disney's streaming service.
It was stated by Disney that their streaming service would be "family friendly" so no Punisher etc.

Yep, this is the problem. Buying 20th Century Fox has brought Marvel into Disney's fold. All the Marvel TV stuff was made by Netflix on behalf of Marvel.
Disney don't want to compete with a Netflix airing productions with characters Disney now owns. It's a shame, Luke Cage and Daredevil, season 4 of that show had been written, have already been cancelled. This is why we've seen Netflix ramping up their own production series and movies, replacing product that will be pulled from their platform by the major studios. It's going to be a fierce battleground.

The decision to cancel Marvel shows was a NEtflix one. They have now put the cancellation stink on the Marvel properties, plus they own the rights to the current shows, so they have made the first huge opening salvo against Disney. In doing so, they have (odds likely) ended these characters for fans for the next generation. For me, the only one I would be sad for is Punisher, as I was never a fan of Heroes for Hire or the other one.
I can see DisneyPLus having a Hulu adult section maybe, where the likes of Fox/Punisher could exist.

[NewNameNeeded]

HighwayStar said:

marksx said:

Season 2 now on Netflix

I'm just finishing up Season 1. I thought I'd revisit it before getting strapped in for S2.
Netflix really nailed it with the writing, the well developed characters all mixed with drama and brutal violence.

Totally agree. Absolutely loved season 1. One of my all time favourite shows. I loved that they took time to move the story on. I'll be watching season 1 for the third time, before watching season 2!

[HighwayStar]

Halb said:

HighwayStar said:

Bullett said:

I started a thread on the Mandalorian and Disney's streaming service.
It was stated by Disney that their streaming service would be "family friendly" so no Punisher etc.

Yep, this is the problem. Buying 20th Century Fox has brought Marvel into Disney's fold. All the Marvel TV stuff was made by Netflix on behalf of Marvel.
Disney don't want to compete with a Netflix airing productions with characters Disney now owns. It's a shame, Luke Cage and Daredevil, season 4 of that show had been written, have already been cancelled. This is why we've seen Netflix ramping up their own production series and movies, replacing product that will be pulled from their platform by the major studios. It's going to be a fierce battleground.

The decision to cancel Marvel shows was a NEtflix one. They have now put the cancellation stink on the Marvel properties, plus they own the rights to the current shows, so they have made the first huge opening salvo against Disney. In doing so, they have (odds likely) ended these characters for fans for the next generation. For me, the only one I would be sad for is Punisher, as I was never a fan of Heroes for Hire or the other one.
I can see DisneyPLus having a Hulu adult section maybe, where the likes of Fox/Punisher could exist.

Yes that's fairly much how I see it... Hulu for shows deemed not suitable for Disney Plus, much as they do with movies they release. Touchstone was their distributer for their adult releases.

Netflix don't own the rights to the current shows......

Netflix pays money to produce the Marvel shows, but they don't own the IP. Those shows have clear and consistent branding to Marvel Studios. So when the Disney+ service starts airing other Marvel shows tied to the popular films, any Marvel series on Netflix will service as de facto advertising for the other Marvel shows on Disney+. In that way, then, the Marvel-Netflix shows were about to become marketing for a streaming service that directly competes with Netflix.

Likewise, Disney is going to pull all of their content from Netflix, so Netflix will generally lack a relationship with Marvel's parent company and will be losing a lot of popular content that transitions over to the competing Disney+ service. So if Netflix kept making the Marvel shows, then they would be producing content owned by someone else that would serve to drive consumers to a competing service full of content explicitly taken away from Netflix.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/11/30...

[Halb]

HighwayStar said:

etflix don't own the rights to the current shows......
Netflix pays money to produce the Marvel shows, but they don't own the IP. Those shows have clear and consistent branding to Marvel Studios. So when the Disney+ service starts airing other Marvel shows tied to the popular films, any Marvel series on Netflix will service as de facto advertising for the other Marvel shows on Disney+. In that way, then, the Marvel-Netflix shows were about to become marketing for a streaming service that directly competes with Netflix.
Likewise, Disney is going to pull all of their content from Netflix, so Netflix will generally lack a relationship with Marvel's parent company and will be losing a lot of popular content that transitions over to the competing Disney+ service. So if Netflix kept making the Marvel shows, then they would be producing content owned by someone else that would serve to drive consumers to a competing service full of content explicitly taken away from Netflix.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/11/30...

I didn't phrase it quite correctly. Netlfix own the broadcasting rights to what they have produced thus far, so all the stuff to date will not air on Disney. If Marvel fans want their dose of Punisher et al, they'll have to buy Netflix. It's a great/stty move by Netlficx, depending if you're a fan or not. Disney can't move forward with any character without highlighting the start of them on a competitor.

[irocfan]

well that was quiet - Season 2 has just dropped. May have a mini-binge this weekend

[SlimJim16v]

I've watched the first 2, very bloody good.

[DoctorX]

SlimJim16v said:

I've watched the first 2, very bloody good.

Isn’t it? Episode 3 is even better!