Guy Martin

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Jonesy23

4,650 posts

136 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Someone covered a pretty serious bill to build that, lot of time and resource involved.


Six Fiend

6,067 posts

215 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Captain Oswald Bamfied died in The Battle of Loos in 1915. Adjacent to Cambrain.

A good reason the family were involved with the program.

chris414

16 posts

121 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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A huge amount of respect to the companies involved in this, particularly JCB and, I think it was Chasestead. Utter contempt for Lincoln police's handling of it. Thoroughly enjoyable and indeed emotional.

Cfnteabag

1,195 posts

196 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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227bhp said:
1200hp in a modern tank, that's got to be about 2000 lb/ft of torque yikes
The engineer variants of the Challenger hull have a 1500bhp version

Fast and Spurious

1,320 posts

88 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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227bhp said:
1200hp in a modern tank, that's got to be about 2000 lb/ft of torque yikes
More than 3400lbft!

227bhp

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10,203 posts

128 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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I think I enjoyed that more than most of his offerings, probably because of the WW1 links and facts and also they seemed to make an effort to prove the honesty of what they were going through (with the engines first fire up and the Lincolnshire Council thing) as many programs have fake jeopardy these days. Ok so it could have been the second or third time it was fired up and GM might be a really wonderful bloke in real life, but yeah, it made good TV; 9/10.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Really enjoyed that.....credit to Guy & the companies involved.

SHAME on the Lincoln Police

227bhp

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10,203 posts

128 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Fast and Spurious said:
227bhp said:
1200hp in a modern tank, that's got to be about 2000 lb/ft of torque yikes
More than 3400lbft!
Do you think so? I was being conservative with a rough 1990s rule of thumb (double the BHP and take a bit off) and also that's pulling 60T of weight (double that of the original), did they quote the output of the original?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Enjoyed that! Some CAD, some welding, cups of tea, a bit of messing around, nice backfires out of the carb of a classic 6 cyl petrol engine, some interesting characters and history thrown in too! Well worth a trip next year to the tank museum to see it i think!

(and 10/10 to JCB for supporting this sort of thing !)


Wait Here Until Green Light Shows

15,222 posts

200 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Brilliant program. I must say the thought of that beast clanking down a people lined high street is a tad sketchy to say the least! I think on balance they made the right decision.

williamp

19,255 posts

273 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Wait Here Until Green Light Shows said:
Brilliant program. I must say the thought of that beast clanking down a people lined high street is a tad sketchy to say the least! I think on balance they made the right decision.
A diffficult one and I am inclined to agree. They had terrible visability, and Guy martin in the tank would have created large crowds, difficult to police. You'd need a lot of high viz walking alongside it with (due to the noise) no radio comms. On balance, the right decision. Shame, but there you go.

CAPP0

19,581 posts

203 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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dieselgrunt said:
More of a cardboard cutout of a tank than a replica.
Let's see the one you've built then?

Fast and Spurious

1,320 posts

88 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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227bhp said:
Do you think so? I was being conservative with a rough 1990s rule of thumb (double the BHP and take a bit off) and also that's pulling 60T of weight (double that of the original), did they quote the output of the original?
Sorry, not sure about Challenger 2 engine torque, I quoted 4700NM from the Leopard 2 which is 1500PS. In both instances we are talking large turbocharged diesels, so it's all about the torque.

yellowjack

17,076 posts

166 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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louiechevy said:
When I was at school in the I suppose you would call it the mechanics club they had a Rolls Royce engine from a Scorpion that I spent a summer of lunch breaks and more stripping cleaning reassembling and painting it's what got me into car mechanics
Jaguar in a Scorpion though... (4.2 litre straight six) wink

Leyland L60 in a Chieftain.

Rolls Royce K60 'multi fuel' (diesel in practice) engine in an FV 432 APC, and I think Ferrets had Rolls Royce engines too. Oh, and the Rolls Royce Meteor in the Centurion and it's predecessors at the tail end of WW2.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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williamp said:
Wait Here Until Green Light Shows said:
Brilliant program. I must say the thought of that beast clanking down a people lined high street is a tad sketchy to say the least! I think on balance they made the right decision.
A diffficult one and I am inclined to agree. They had terrible visability, and Guy martin in the tank would have created large crowds, difficult to police. You'd need a lot of high viz walking alongside it with (due to the noise) no radio comms. On balance, the right decision. Shame, but there you go.
If they can run down people lined streets with barrels of burning tar in Ottery StMary and drive massive home made mechanical trailers with all sorts on them along the streets of Wells and Glastonbury they could move that in Lincon.

Pathetic from the Police.

chris414

16 posts

121 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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williamp said:
Wait Here Until Green Light Shows said:
Brilliant program. I must say the thought of that beast clanking down a people lined high street is a tad sketchy to say the least! I think on balance they made the right decision.
A diffficult one and I am inclined to agree. They had terrible visability, and Guy martin in the tank would have created large crowds, difficult to police. You'd need a lot of high viz walking alongside it with (due to the noise) no radio comms. On balance, the right decision. Shame, but there you go.
A balanced argument. I still think that it could easily have been done, the council wanted it. The tank would have been moving very, very slowly and as I recall there were instant cut-offs. I still think the police overreacted, as I recall there was mention of the busiest Christmas shopping day. Surely some ethical priorities to be examined here!

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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They could have moved it into place overnight and just fired the thing up for a bit of drama on the day without moving it. Not much imagination shown really in finding a solution.

Blaster72

10,835 posts

197 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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I think it was the right decision given they barely had any control over the tank at all in the end. When they measured out the route it barely fitted, I could envisage it tearing up that pedestrianised area a treat.

I thought I'd misheard the quote about being the busiest Christmas shopping day of the year too, that can't be true. I enjoyed the program overall and what they built was fantastic in the time they had. I really hope this tank is still being refined to a state that maybe it can take part in a remembrance parade in the future.

ecsrobin

17,114 posts

165 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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But it’s ok to drive a WW1 tank through quiet old London.....

https://youtu.be/NMKh-V34vFU

louiechevy

645 posts

193 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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yellowjack said:
Jaguar in a Scorpion though... (4.2 litre straight six) wink

Leyland L60 in a Chieftain.

Rolls Royce K60 'multi fuel' (diesel in practice) engine in an FV 432 APC, and I think Ferrets had Rolls Royce engines too. Oh, and the Rolls Royce Meteor in the Centurion and it's predecessors at the tail end of WW2.
Whoops yes it was a jag engine! I'm getting old that's my excuse. The school was opposite the armoured vehicle supply depot at Ludgershall so we had all sorts of bits and bobs donated. And of course the reason I ended up there was because my grandad who came from up north was posted there and my grandmother who came from Cornwall was something to to with the army cooking and they just stayed in the area.