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James TiT

234 posts

86 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Do you know that th Churchill tank had a hatch for disposal of human waste products?

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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James TiT said:
XCP said:
I would imagine that registration and insurance might have been an issue, but if the police had closed the road that would have been easier I suppose. Would have made a mess of the road surface too I guess.
Type approval was not applied for, and no lights o indicators were fitted.
Not required, "special permission" can be issued (see earlier posts)

FourWheelDrift

88,477 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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The Mk IV that Guy had a look around inside (and I have too) at Bovingdon Tank Museum is the oldest British WWI still in operational condition although it isn't run as they don't want to stress any bits to breaking point. Same with their operational Mk V also. They have the War Horse film replica there along with the German A7V replica for displays.

However, the French still get their toys out, this is the only Saint-Chamond WWI tank that survives and it's in working condition - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji2Y4Fg_6js

They also bring out the only surviving French WWI Schneider tank, working as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmxJBK9Sa9k


The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
The Mk IV that Guy had a look around inside (and I have too) at Bovingdon Tank Museum is the oldest British WWI still in operational condition although it isn't run as they don't want to stress any bits to breaking point. Same with their operational Mk V also. They have the War Horse film replica there along with the German A7V replica for displays.

However, the French still get their toys out, this is the only Saint-Chamond WWI tank that survives and it's in working condition - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji2Y4Fg_6js

They also bring out the only surviving French WWI Schneider tank, working as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmxJBK9Sa9k
1st Anti-Tank gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzDfUKNwfGc

King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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James TiT said:
Do you know that th Churchill tank had a hatch for disposal of human waste products?
I’d imagine soiled britches were scraped through that hole regularly.

Can you imagine the noise, from the roaring motor, the tracks screeching and rattling, the guns, the sound of bullets hitting the hull? And the smoke, stink of hot oil, cordite, sweat, human dung, fear....... Like submariners, I bet it took a special type of man to go back inside a tank after their first trip into action.

EarlOfHazard

3,603 posts

158 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
The Mk IV that Guy had a look around inside (and I have too) at Bovingdon Tank Museum is the oldest British WWI still in operational condition although it isn't run as they don't want to stress any bits to breaking point. Same with their operational Mk V also. They have the War Horse film replica there along with the German A7V replica for displays.

However, the French still get their toys out, this is the only Saint-Chamond WWI tank that survives and it's in working condition - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji2Y4Fg_6js

They also bring out the only surviving French WWI Schneider tank, working as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmxJBK9Sa9k
Thanks posting!! Have seen various vids on the Renault FT17, but not France's other efforts before. They look quite striking in colour, I'd only ever seen them in black and white photos.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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The base chassis for the French "Tanks" was a Holt Tractor (lengthened) with a box on top.


Dogwatch

6,224 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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James TiT said:
Type approval was not applied for, and no lights o indicators were fitted.
That's it then. Probably no NCAP either. Scrappage!

chris285

811 posts

132 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Hate to think think of the damage it would have done to the high street in Lincoln, as mentioned traffic is a pain at the best of times but closing a road for this on top of loads of people coming out to see it driven was probably the right call

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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chris285 said:
Hate to think think of the damage it would have done to the high street in Lincoln, as mentioned traffic is a pain at the best of times but closing a road for this on top of loads of people coming out to see it driven was probably the right call
Yep, more people coming out on Rememberance Sunday to a Rememberance Day Event would really spoil your days shopping, good grief man poor you !

FredericRobinson

3,693 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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I'm not sure Remembrance Day would have been the right time to drive the tank through a town centre anyway, Armed Forces Day might have been more appropriate

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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FredericRobinson said:
I'm not sure Remembrance Day would have been the right time to drive the tank through a town centre anyway, Armed Forces Day might have been more appropriate
Yep, 100 Years since the end of WW1, not in any way suitable to have a WW1 Tank replica (first made in Lincoln) at a Remembrance Day Parade in Lincoln.

FourWheelDrift

88,477 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Yep, 100 Years since the end of WW1, not in any way suitable to have a WW1 Tank replica (first made in Lincoln) at a Remembrance Day Parade in Lincoln.
Next year maybe. This year was the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Cambrai the first mass tank battle.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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My error, Yes. However, that makes it even more appropriate don't you think ?

marcosgt

11,018 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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King Herald said:
James TiT said:
Do you know that th Churchill tank had a hatch for disposal of human waste products?
I’d imagine soiled britches were scraped through that hole regularly.

Can you imagine the noise, from the roaring motor, the tracks screeching and rattling, the guns, the sound of bullets hitting the hull? And the smoke, stink of hot oil, cordite, sweat, human dung, fear....... Like submariners, I bet it took a special type of man to go back inside a tank after their first trip into action.
If I'm not mistaken the current Challenger II also has such a hatch!

M.

The Don of Croy

5,991 posts

159 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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A welcome return to form for the GM franchise.

I wonder if he'll get a crack at the Bonneville speed trials one day...? Not in a Mark IV landship though.

FredericRobinson

3,693 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Yep, 100 Years since the end of WW1, not in any way suitable to have a WW1 Tank replica (first made in Lincoln) at a Remembrance Day Parade in Lincoln.
I like Guy Martin, and thought they did an excellent job with the tank, it's right that it should be displayed in Lincoln, I'd just be a bit uneasy that the hoopla that would surround a local celebrity driving a tank down the road accompanied by a TV crew wouldn't fit well with the somberness of Remembrance Sunday, however well-intentioned. Armed Forces Day, being more of a celebration, might be the better time.

DJFish

5,921 posts

263 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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I thought the same, I'm not sure the solemnity of Rememberence Sunday was the right time or place to roll it out.

However that shouldn't take anything away from the team of engineers who built it, although I thought it was a shame they didn't use real rivets.

As with many Guy Martin features I'm not sure how much involvement he had with the total build, I'm guessing he was spread a bit thin this summer, but it was still worth watching.

King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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DJFish said:
However that shouldn't take anything away from the team of engineers who built it, although I thought it was a shame they didn't use real rivets.
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Did you see the size of that hydraulic ‘rivet gun’ they used in the original manufacture? I doubt it is the sort of thing you can pick up at Halfords nowadays. hehe

Cfnteabag

1,195 posts

196 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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marcosgt said:
If I'm not mistaken the current Challenger II also has such a hatch!

M.
As far as I remember currently number 2 is done into a sealed foil bag (as is standard for everywhere the army goes without toilets or a turdis) but number 1's are done down a tube which exits to the outdoors.

Not sure how that arrangement will change now women are allowed in teeth arms/armoured corps