Wheeler dealers gone down hill

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Michael-b35fl

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16 posts

106 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Is it just me but ant anstead is patronising. He feeds you incorrect information for starters. And don't get me started on them ruining a standard escort cossie. Plus why is it all in dollars now. It's a British show so at least do us the decency of using good old sterling.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Like pretty much everything Britain does, nowadays, they f*cked it up and squabbled and mismanaged and now the Yanks own and run it.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Michael-b35fl said:
Plus why is it all in dollars now. It's a British show so at least do us the decency of using good old sterling.
Not British show anymore.


Mike335i

5,004 posts

102 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Yipper said:
Like pretty much everything Britain does, nowadays, they f*cked it up and squabbled and mismanaged and now the Yanks own and run it.
Everything Britain does? That is quite a statement.

Didn't realise wheeler dealers was still going.

cuprabob

14,614 posts

214 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Michael-b35fl said:
Is it just me but ant anstead is patronising. He feeds you incorrect information for starters. And don't get me started on them ruining a standard escort cossie. Plus why is it all in dollars now. It's a British show so at least do us the decency of using good old sterling.
Edd, is that you?

BlueHave

4,650 posts

108 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Velocity might think they've made it slick but it's just not as exciting to watch as the episodes cobbled together in a dingy garage in England.

Streaming it on Velocity website months ago I actually found myself skipping to the end just to see the outcome.

They've made a pigs ear out of it.

Michael-b35fl

Original Poster:

16 posts

106 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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There were things that ed did that pissed me off like his obsession with putting new style number plates on all cars he worked on. But I miss him already. I thought anstead was a good guy but he just makes it up for TV effect. There is no way that the escort was designed with rallying in mind. It was just graft an escort shell on a Sierra floor pan. I had an open mind but I think one of my favourite shows has become unwatchable. 😞

Pistom

4,967 posts

159 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Like many shows that start out good they either don't change soon enough and go stale or they get messed around with by dicks who believe they know better despite others around them telling them what is obvious.

Michael-b35fl

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16 posts

106 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Having said that the show was not about wheeling and dealing anymore. The budgets involved made it out of the reach of the home mechanic. The early shows were a lot more diy. Later it became a show where they just sent it all out to specialists.

I think there is a hole in the market for a low budget car repair/ restoration show for 2 people. I am in who wants to buy me a car to fix?

MarkwG

4,848 posts

189 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Michael-b35fl said:
There is no way that the escort was designed with rallying in mind. It was just graft an escort shell on a Sierra floor pan.
It's exactly what it was designed for - Group A WRC, competed '93 to '98, won a few as well.

Derek Smith

45,655 posts

248 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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I thought it was OK but it wasn't a classic episode despite the car.

I can see the motivation for the modifications, but the wing's not something I'd have opted for.

Mike was beginning to irritate me. He still does. When was the last time he said something new in the buying bit?

I'll still watch it. I wish Edd would do something himself though.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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I saw about half of it and turned it over in the end. What was adding the extra spoiler about, I can see why Ford didn't go with the ideas.

I imagine it was dropped because a) it looked stupid and b) rear visibility would have been obliterated.

Was it me or was there a gap where the new spoiler wasn't fitted to the boot properly?
It all looked a bit of a bodge, with bits of wood holding it together, who are they trying to appeal to with this program now?

The dollars thing is a bit annoying as well.

Tempest_5

603 posts

197 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Out there is a video with Edd explaining why he left the show. Basically he didn't like where the new production company were taking the show. This seems to have been bourne out by your experiences.

Here is the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IB15T1LYiY

I quite liked the old show but got a bit frustrated with how everything was shown to come apart relatively easily. No sheared off bolts in inaccessible places that take half a day to sort.Still, that's not exciting telly is it.

Nickp82

3,182 posts

93 months

Monday 1st January 2018
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Michael-b35fl said:
Having said that the show was not about wheeling and dealing anymore. The budgets involved made it out of the reach of the home mechanic. The early shows were a lot more diy. Later it became a show where they just sent it all out to specialists.

I think there is a hole in the market for a low budget car repair/ restoration show for 2 people.[b] I am in who wants to buy me a car to fix?[\b]
I can do better than that, I can provide not only the car to fix (engine rebuild please) but also the filming location (my drive) and I won't even charge you, 'old aat yer 'and, you've just become the new Edd China!

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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I actually quite enjoyed that but it's basically $20k to fix a Cossie and add a third spoiler rofl I smell a fixed episode. No way anyone in their right mind would pay that amount of money. Not the same without Edd though.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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cuprabob said:
Michael-b35fl said:
Is it just me but ant anstead is patronising. He feeds you incorrect information for starters. And don't get me started on them ruining a standard escort cossie. Plus why is it all in dollars now. It's a British show so at least do us the decency of using good old sterling.
Edd, is that you?
laugh

Smollet

10,563 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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I enjoyed it and the reason the third wing wasn't included was down to the accountants binning for cost-cutting according to the bloke who helped design the car in the first place so I guess he might well have a bit of an insight.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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Cupramax said:
I actually quite enjoyed that but it's basically $20k to fix a Cossie and add a third spoiler rofl I smell a fixed episode. No way anyone in their right mind would pay that amount of money. Not the same without Edd though.
Fixed more than a fixie bike!

1) No "hunting through the classifieds to find the car"
2) Mike turned up at the blokes house, and immediately said "When you called me about this car...." - clearly the feelers were out looking for it
3) "Only one of 12 for road use in the USA..."
4) No-one in the USA really knows how to fix it or where to get parts
5) Mechanical changes - fine
6) wheels entirely changeable
7) That spoiler would come off and leave no damage to the original car underneath
8) And then the same bloke "bought" it back from them?

No. What I think has happened here, is that chap had a Cosworth that needed a bit of work, and was happy for them to take it away and repair it for him and have it on TV for a few weeks, at no cost to either party.

Stig

11,817 posts

284 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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What they also fail to grasp is that a show that's supposedly for 'petrol heads' (though I expect that's 'gear heads' now it's based in sunny California!), is always going to get flak when the veil of integrity starts to slip and you realise it's just 'telly' - then again, WD was 'telly' when Edd was there too - the earliest stuff is the most honest.

Can't make my mind up about Ant Anstead? I'm sure he's an enthusiast, but with what qualification? When he referred to fibreglass CSM as chopped straw matting my brain started to switch off. It's these small details that make you realise it's a show with presenters, rather than mechanics.

Still, it makes a change from the Discovery re-runs I suppose smile

P-Jay

10,564 posts

191 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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Oddly, when this was discussed a few months ago, when they made the first Episode free to stream online the PH collective were far more positive.

Anyway, personally I liked it, and I liked Ant.

I don't mind the 'Dollars' thing so much, if they were in the UK spannering Brit cars then it would be odd, but they're not, they're in the US with US cars.