SAS: Who Dares Wins

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marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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andy_s said:
I think he's just picking up on characteristics that would grind your gears in a high-stress/close proximity situation.
Mmmm - I have to say Ant falls firmly into that category for me.

The other guys are quiet and self effacing, but he always seems very "I'm Special Forces, I am" to me.

I know it helps the programme, but sometimes I'm surprised the people taking part don't just burst out laughing at him (that comment about looking serious when descending a rock face was one of those times!)

I'd also think that adrenalin or nerves would make quite a lot of people a bit giggly about doing that! Number 13 (as one of the other guys pointed out) was a pretty effective leader on the log challenge.

I don't doubt he's been a very capable and effective SF person, but I often wonder, if he rocked up for this programme, if the others wouldn't just chuck him out at the first opportunity...

M

Edited by marcosgt on Monday 14th January 20:13

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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marcosgt said:
andy_s said:
I think he's just picking up on characteristics that would grind your gears in a high-stress/close proximity situation.
Mmmm - I have to say Ant falls firmly into that category for me.

The other guys are quiet and self effacing, but he always seems very "I'm Special Forces, I am" to me.

I know it helps the programme, but sometimes I'm surprised the people taking part don't just burst out laughing at him (that comment about looking serious when descending a rock face was one of those times!)

I'd also think that adrenalin or nerves would make quite a lot of people a bit giggly about doing that! Number 13 (as one of the other guys pointed out) was a pretty effective leader on the log challenge.

I don't doubt he's been a very capable and effective SF person, but I often wonder, if he rocked up for this programme, if the others wouldn't just chuck him out at the first opportunity...

M

Edited by marcosgt on Monday 14th January 20:13
The real thing is way longer and harder. The fact is he has done the real thing and passed so he's proved that his peers wouldn't/didn't bin him from selection, let alone a TV show.

Bear in mind he's in the role of chief instructor (the others are his staff) so is meant to come across as the boss. As a soldier on selection his demeanor would be totally different.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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98elise said:
The real thing is way longer and harder. The fact is he has done the real thing and passed so he's proved that his peers wouldn't/didn't bin him from selection, let alone a TV show.

Bear in mind he's in the role of chief instructor (the others are his staff) so is meant to come across as the boss. As a soldier on selection his demeanor would be totally different.
Yes, of course, hence my comment on his experience.

It's his on screen persona that comes over as laughable at times, but what I'm saying is that anyone rocking up with that attitude to the show (let alone real selection) would get binned pronto!

M

Mr-B

3,780 posts

194 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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P-Jay said:
Lord.Vader said:
Who was the other one who left, 11?
I think he was the chap with the oddly bright blonde hair, I'm not sure he got any screen time up to the point they called him out.
When he was called I thought "who?" when I saw him as I didn't even recognise his face!

DS240

4,672 posts

218 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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daddy cool said:
Spoon Burner said:
Does anyone happen to know the make of those grey hooded fleeces all the recruits are wearing?
Looks like these:
https://www.military1st.co.uk/bl-pat-hf-35-helikon...

There are cheaper lookalike ones on the 'bay, but they don't have toggle-tighteners for the hood like the ones in the show. Look quite snug actually.
I thought they were ‘pentagon’.

Also on they same site.

P-Jay

10,565 posts

191 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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marcosgt said:
andy_s said:
I think he's just picking up on characteristics that would grind your gears in a high-stress/close proximity situation.
Mmmm - I have to say Ant falls firmly into that category for me.

The other guys are quiet and self effacing, but he always seems very "I'm Special Forces, I am" to me.

I know it helps the programme, but sometimes I'm surprised the people taking part don't just burst out laughing at him (that comment about looking serious when descending a rock face was one of those times!)

I'd also think that adrenalin or nerves would make quite a lot of people a bit giggly about doing that! Number 13 (as one of the other guys pointed out) was a pretty effective leader on the log challenge.

I don't doubt he's been a very capable and effective SF person, but I often wonder, if he rocked up for this programme, if the others wouldn't just chuck him out at the first opportunity...

M

Edited by marcosgt on Monday 14th January 20:13
I wonder if he’s a bit chippy, being, in his own words “Tier One Special Forces” is obviously a huge part of who he is and where he draws a lot of his self-worth, but he had a relatively short career (4 years Royal Marine, 4 years SBS I think). I believe the others left on their own terms, Ant didn’t.

Scabutz

7,604 posts

80 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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P-Jay said:
I wonder if he’s a bit chippy, being, in his own words “Tier One Special Forces” is obviously a huge part of who he is and where he draws a lot of his self-worth, but he had a relatively short career (4 years Royal Marine, 4 years SBS I think). I believe the others left on their own terms, Ant didn’t.
Think he was in the marines for longer (7 years) and was in the paras before that. Not sure why he left.

Foxy was medically discharged with PTSD, depression and burn out. Wasnt his choice.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Can someone change from the paras to the royal marines or is it like joining the navy from new?

Scabutz

7,604 posts

80 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Halb said:
Can someone change from the paras to the royal marines or is it like joining the navy from new?
In Ants book he said he joined form new, but that's because he had left the paras a few years before. He was allowed to attach his wings to his uniform whilst training in the Marines though he said.

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Halb said:
Can someone change from the paras to the royal marines or is it like joining the navy from new?
You can change branch and service, but there are not that many where you could simply slot in. Para to RM would be a very big shift, both are very specialised, and of course they are completely different services so even something as simple as a salute is different!

In the forces trades or specialists work in silos from a professional point of view. I joined an an engineer. Initially we trained as one group, then we were subdivided into engineering branches then subdecided again by specialisation. Even moving between subspecialty would be difficult due to the training. One of my mates (also an engineer) did move to the marines though, and another became a pilot.

S1KRR

12,548 posts

212 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Glad 13 is gone! Complete waste of time her even being there!
20 wont last either. Too much an individual. And as you could see from the log thing, not up to empathy. The Police that took over showed her leadership. Milling afterwards was funny when she stared to apologise afterwards.
Feel for the 2 that VW'd for health reasons. It's a tough old area. And you wonder if they'd do really well at some of the other locations the shows been in
The guy that was kicked out, we'd not seen anything of him. AFAIK I wondered if a few of the "candidates" are soldiers/ mates of the DS in to make up the numbers, and allow "TV magic" to whittle the numbers down slowly over a few weeks

Can understand the guy getting a bit "head fk" over beating up the girl. But he had to do it and I respect them both for getting stuck in. Surprised we haven't had more noise in the media over it.

skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Was number 11 (and probably others) just filler? How can they drop someone without mentioning them or even showing a single thing about the reason. It was like it was purely for tele - 2 are gonna go, but which 2 of the 3 that have clearly been struggling loads and been heavily focused on? Surprise, 20 and 16 both get to stay, let's watch even more of them next week.

Maybe 11 was just a normal bloke without any odd back story.

Shame that hyperventilating girl went, she made it to the top, seemed fine once she got her breath bank to normal, and then just took off her armband? Also shame about 1, guess the altitude just finished her off.

Scabutz

7,604 posts

80 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Perhaps no 11 was just lost in the edits. Was struggling at the back or not wanting to do stuff, but nothing remarkablr. I have noticed in this series they are packing a lot in and you are not seeing everyone do each thing. There is a lot of focus on certain people. We haven't seen much from the fireman dude who is clearly way ahead of the others.

Back in S1 when they did the Fan Dance you saw everyone and how they were doing.

I think the programme is popular enough that they don't need room meat.

NuckyThompson

1,586 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Apparently number 11 didn’t do very well in the milling had a bit of a back story we’re he was a wild child and got into fights etc said he had to come a long way from there to growing up and not getting involved in violence so I’m assuming pretty much backed out of the milling.

A lot of people found him on twitter and asked him, he said it’s defo not fake and it’s a lot of edit to fit into 1 hour each time.

skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Fair enough. Glad 13 is gone tho she was taking up way too much screen time

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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skinny said:
Shame that hyperventilating girl went, she made it to the top, seemed fine once she got her breath bank to normal, and then just took off her armband?
I thought that too. I expected her to take comfort from how quickly she was able to gain composure, but she handed her armband back almost casually.

daddy cool

4,001 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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NuckyThompson said:
Apparently number 11 didn’t do very well in the milling had a bit of a back story we’re he was a wild child and got into fights etc said he had to come a long way from there to growing up and not getting involved in violence so I’m assuming pretty much backed out of the milling.
Again though, makes you wonder why they apply to be on the show? I mean, even assuming you apply having never watched a previous series, you would surely watch them prior to actually starting? And you'd see that in every series they have a milling exercise and its a safe bet this one will too.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Nice to know about 11

the hyperventilating girl. I guess it was too much of a bodyshock, and she was still acting under shock. I've never hyperventilated, must be pretty horrible up a mountain with less oxygen and headaches and stuff.

WestyCarl

3,249 posts

125 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Halb said:
the hyperventilating girl. I guess it was too much of a bodyshock, and she was still acting under shock. I've never hyperventilated, must be pretty horrible up a mountain with less oxygen and headaches and stuff.
I guess the main "head fk" is not know when the beasting will stop, especially if you already have an issue like hyperventilating.



Spoon Burner

8,852 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Without wishing to derail the thread, has anyone started watching The Paras - men of war on itv?

Only one episode so far but I think it’s brilluant.