Solo: A Star Wars Story
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Saw the late night showing this evening. Didn't hate it. Just a silly space movie where the good guys are really thieving pirates.
Not sure it was a Star Wars film though, but was pleased about the absence of any mythical/religious Force stuff.
Interestingly the cinema was empty apart from me and one other friendless saddo sitting near the front. The past couple of days has seen this movie saturating the screen times with a showing being scheduled almost hourly from 9AM. I'm not sure how long that timetable will last.
12 parsecs out of 20.
Not sure it was a Star Wars film though, but was pleased about the absence of any mythical/religious Force stuff.
Interestingly the cinema was empty apart from me and one other friendless saddo sitting near the front. The past couple of days has seen this movie saturating the screen times with a showing being scheduled almost hourly from 9AM. I'm not sure how long that timetable will last.
12 parsecs out of 20.
This didn't really work for me, not quite a stinker, but there were many scenes that were flat and wooden with a mediocre story, so a good few points less than Rogue One.
I like Emilia Clarke in GoT, but have not enjoyed her performances in anything else, she just doesn't have the range and depth to carry off a big performance for me.
I didn't feel that Solo's character developed much throughout the film, such an icon though it was always a risky movie to make. It almost felt that the story was woven around a series of key points we know about Solo, the downside being there are few surprises. 5/10.
I like Emilia Clarke in GoT, but have not enjoyed her performances in anything else, she just doesn't have the range and depth to carry off a big performance for me.
I didn't feel that Solo's character developed much throughout the film, such an icon though it was always a risky movie to make. It almost felt that the story was woven around a series of key points we know about Solo, the downside being there are few surprises. 5/10.
The droid was fine, it really is digging for issues if you come away from the film in any way offended by her. She doesn't get that much screen time either. I know PH is male dominated and basically a reverse Mumsnet (and I see these discussions here more than anywhere) but even so it's not something to make a big deal of.
Of all the issues I had with the film the droid would not be anywhere near the top 10. I struggled with Emilia Clarke's acting far more.
Of all the issues I had with the film the droid would not be anywhere near the top 10. I struggled with Emilia Clarke's acting far more.
Cold said:
First thing I did when I got in from the flicks last night was to check IMDb to see who was the voice behind that droid.
I was convinced it was popular* comedy entertainer Miranda Hart. (It's not.
)
*opinions vary.
Same here, except we thought it sounded like Gwendoline Christie I was convinced it was popular* comedy entertainer Miranda Hart. (It's not.
)*opinions vary.
S0 What said:
saw solo about 2 hours ago in hemel, i liked it, a huge relief after TLJ !
it was a 10pm showing and there were 11 people in there
5 in my group, and a whole 6 others, poor turnout for a saterday eve IMO ?
Same all over from media reports I have read, stronger in the US but falling below even the already low forecast opening weekend. it was a 10pm showing and there were 11 people in there
5 in my group, and a whole 6 others, poor turnout for a saterday eve IMO ?What most of the news articles seem to be trying to avoid mentioning is that this could be fan reaction to TLJ. I certainly wont be paying Disney any more of my money for Star Wars films after that.
JagLover said:
Same all over from media reports I have read, stronger in the US but falling below even the already low forecast opening weekend.
Yep looks like less than $100m for the 3 day in the US, none of the predictions were that low. That's significantly less than Deadpool 2 managed over the same period and I guess about as close to a 'flop' as a movie that will still presumably comfortably clear half a billion worldwide is going to be.ukaskew said:
Yep looks like less than $100m for the 3 day in the US, none of the predictions were that low. That's significantly less than Deadpool 2 managed over the same period and I guess about as close to a 'flop' as a movie that will still presumably comfortably clear half a billion worldwide is going to be.
That figure sounds good, but as I have said before, the Disney executives and shareholders will know full well that that figure could have been doubled, even tripled, if it weren't for the relative ineptness of Lucasfilm under the direction of K. Kennedy.I haven't seen this film, BTW, the very first SW film I haven't seen at the cinema, and doubt I will buy a hard copy when released.
ukaskew said:
Yep looks like less than $100m for the 3 day in the US, none of the predictions were that low. That's significantly less than Deadpool 2 managed over the same period and I guess about as close to a 'flop' as a movie that will still presumably comfortably clear half a billion worldwide is going to be.
A movie generally needs to make between 2.5 and 3x it's production budget to break even just on it's production.........but that doesn't account for marketing costs, which for a big budget, international 'blockbuster' are estimated to be around $200 million and rising.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/200-million...
Screenrant have done an article on Solo's production - and due to the issues it had, have estimated that it could be somewhere around the $250 million mark.
https://screenrant.com/solo-movie-budget-cost-star...
If these figures are accurate, Solo would need to take a minimum of $2.25 billion and as much as $2.7 billion just to break even. Of course all of this doesn't have to be at the box office, we have DVD/online sales and merchandising still to come - but even so, i'd say that's a big ask - especially given the Luke warm reception (excuse the pun
)Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 27th May 08:30
chris watton said:
That figure sounds good, but as I have said before, the Disney executives and shareholders will know full well that that figure could have been doubled, even tripled, if it weren't for the relative ineptness of Lucasfilm under the direction of K. Kennedy.
Women and SJWs just aren't turning out in big enough numbers to make up for the loss of all the 'fat, straight, lonely white males who still live in their mom's basement'.......funny that As unpalatable as it might be - Disney's investment relied heavily on milking these - just as Luke milked that stupid fat space cow thing in TLJ.
Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 27th May 08:29
Moonhawk said:
Women and SJWs just aren't turning out in big enough numbers to make up for the loss of all the 'fat, straight, lonely white males who still live in their mom's basement'.......funny that
I did smile when hearing the analogy this guys makes regarding this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULbkqAuo48
chris watton said:
ukaskew said:
Yep looks like less than $100m for the 3 day in the US, none of the predictions were that low. That's significantly less than Deadpool 2 managed over the same period and I guess about as close to a 'flop' as a movie that will still presumably comfortably clear half a billion worldwide is going to be.
That figure sounds good, but as I have said before, the Disney executives and shareholders will know full well that that figure could have been doubled, even tripled, if it weren't for the relative ineptness of Lucasfilm under the direction of K. Kennedy.I haven't seen this film, BTW, the very first SW film I haven't seen at the cinema, and doubt I will buy a hard copy when released.
As another poster has already said likely production budget was $250m, shall we say $200m for marketing?. It so it needs to make somewhere in the region of $830m or so worldwide before it breaks even (assuming an average of 55% kept by studio). The American numbers are still reasonable for a blockbuster (but not near previous levels), it is worldwide that is going to be the test.
Rumoured to be the lowest box office yet of a Star Wars film in China and there are also numerous pictures of virtually empty Cinemas in European markets
Rogue one was a similar spinoff prequel, but that was released after the well received AFA. You cannot separate out the box office performance of Solo from the reaction to TLJ IMO.
They are releasing a movie relying on nostalgia for the franchise just after a movie where they deliberately pi**ed off most of the core fans.
Moonhawk said:
Women and SJWs just aren't turning out in big enough numbers to make up for the loss of all the 'fat, straight, lonely white males who still live in their mom's basement'.......funny that
As unpalatable as it might be - Disney's investment relied heavily on milking these - just as Luke milked that stupid fat space cow thing in TLJ.
Most women I know just want to watch good movies and find blatant SJW messages instead just as annoying. As unpalatable as it might be - Disney's investment relied heavily on milking these - just as Luke milked that stupid fat space cow thing in TLJ.
As an example my wife couldn't stand TLJ and there is a YouTube video somewhere of a feminist woman ranting about her hatred for TLJ.
As for who they need to milk it is probably more the fat middle aged married men who will take all their children to go see it as well
Edited by JagLover on Sunday 27th May 08:45
JagLover said:
S0 What said:
saw solo about 2 hours ago in hemel, i liked it, a huge relief after TLJ !
it was a 10pm showing and there were 11 people in there 5 in my group, and a whole 6 others, poor turnout for a saterday eve IMO ?
Same all over from media reports I have read, stronger in the US but falling below even the already low forecast opening weekend. it was a 10pm showing and there were 11 people in there
5 in my group, and a whole 6 others, poor turnout for a saterday eve IMO ?What most of the news articles seem to be trying to avoid mentioning is that this could be fan reaction to TLJ. I certainly wont be paying Disney any more of my money for Star Wars films after that.
Me too. Disney won't be getting anymore of my money.
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