Solo: A Star Wars Story
Discussion
Halb said:
Ironic as the two spin-offs have been arguably better movies than the main continuation ones (well, the second one). I think this is the wrong tactic as the generally positive fan response from those who actually went to see Solo will have gone someway to rebuilding the goodwill. I think it will do well in disc sales and on-demand now that the 'I'm not going to the cinema' fan protest has been and gone.Parking the main movies for a while and going all out on a Kenobi movie with Ewan McGregor in the role, plus a proper Solo sequel would have put some distance between Lucasfilm and the s
tstorm that was TLJ.I guess the issue is though - are Lucasfilm capable of making a good Star Wars film again without getting bogged down in political statements and bandwagons?
I saw Solo last night and enjoyed it, it's a decent film really, interesting characters, yes it covers a part of Solo's life that in the main we know about from the main movies. It also covers some stuff we may have gleaned from other books and mentioned some planets that were originated in the EU (I think) which I thought was good.
What I liked at the beginning was the shipyards, seeing parts of Star Destroyers being built for example and seeing the battle, gives you an idea of how the Empire maintained order and that they were probably constantly fighting to keep power (I guess this was supposed to be based about 5-10 years before ANH?), it gave more of an interesting insight into the lives etc of those living in the Star Wars universe.
The droid was weird and annoying, no where near as funny as K2-SO in R1.
It also did really well at setting up the sequels to it I think which could have been really interesting, hopefully they'll get around to those eventually (following Halb's link above).
I just think somehow they need to be convinced of dropping the SJW crap, when it drives the story, it turns out to be a crap story, as I said the droid was just annoying and Lando basically wanting to fk anything was just a bit odd.
Just give us a good story, that's all we ask, there are so many opportunities in the Star Wars universe, so many good idea's already exist and so much scope for new ideas, it really shouldn't be that hard! The prequels were utter ste, most people understand that, the horrendous CGI, which probably aided the awful acting in parts. The "trade wars" (WTF), Jar-jar, so many bad things. But the overall story was actually pretty good I thought. I can forgive a good story most things, but a st (utterly dis-connected now) story as a result of trying desperately to push an agenda or because the writing was given to someone who, it seems, doesn't "get-it" is just crass.
There was SJW crap in Solo, but not as much as TLJ.
Anyway, those are my thoughts, trying to keep spoiler free.
What I liked at the beginning was the shipyards, seeing parts of Star Destroyers being built for example and seeing the battle, gives you an idea of how the Empire maintained order and that they were probably constantly fighting to keep power (I guess this was supposed to be based about 5-10 years before ANH?), it gave more of an interesting insight into the lives etc of those living in the Star Wars universe.
The droid was weird and annoying, no where near as funny as K2-SO in R1.
It also did really well at setting up the sequels to it I think which could have been really interesting, hopefully they'll get around to those eventually (following Halb's link above).
I just think somehow they need to be convinced of dropping the SJW crap, when it drives the story, it turns out to be a crap story, as I said the droid was just annoying and Lando basically wanting to f
k anything was just a bit odd.Just give us a good story, that's all we ask, there are so many opportunities in the Star Wars universe, so many good idea's already exist and so much scope for new ideas, it really shouldn't be that hard! The prequels were utter s
te, most people understand that, the horrendous CGI, which probably aided the awful acting in parts. The "trade wars" (WTF), Jar-jar, so many bad things. But the overall story was actually pretty good I thought. I can forgive a good story most things, but a st (utterly dis-connected now) story as a result of trying desperately to push an agenda or because the writing was given to someone who, it seems, doesn't "get-it" is just crass.There was SJW crap in Solo, but not as much as TLJ.
Anyway, those are my thoughts, trying to keep spoiler free.
Another very interesting watch from Midnight's Edge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy9ryBoNhys
Star Wars: Attack on the Fans, and the Humbling of Kathleen Kennedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy9ryBoNhys
Star Wars: Attack on the Fans, and the Humbling of Kathleen Kennedy
chris watton said:
Another very interesting watch from Midnight's Edge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy9ryBoNhys
Star Wars: Attack on the Fans, and the Humbling of Kathleen Kennedy
Nice vid, it was popping up on my feed but I was ignoring it, didn't realise it was that dutch bloke who did the good vid on why Star Wars hit the Zeitgeist in the 70s. He has a bit of a staid staccato voice (like a lot of youtubers) but his accent can suppress that Partridge vibe.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy9ryBoNhys
Star Wars: Attack on the Fans, and the Humbling of Kathleen Kennedy
I think he's spot on, about SOo, but wrong on masked characters like BF and Vader. Both those characters also rely heavily on their enigmatic quality, the more we learn, the less they become. I think a BF film will sink, and I don't wanna see/hear Vader make quips/puns.
One of these tubers who I have recently been watching is that grace person, she has a squaky voice but she clearly isn't reading from a script like a lot tubers, it's off the cuff andmore natural, she also seems balance. the disney buying fox deal merger gets mentioned in this vid
Top Ten Movies of 2018 BOX OFFICE - so far!
11minsbeyond the trailer
https://youtu.be/suz3slNJbW4
I've watching a lot of Grace's vids recently, she's pretty darn astute, and could fix a lot of the mess that Disney is insisting on making for themselves.
this is a great vid that explains why KK messed up so badly.
this one ponders on how Solo could scrw the fox deal
this is a great vid that explains why KK messed up so badly.
Solo Box Office Opening Weekend - New DCEU?
https://youtu.be/-625PQh6JBASolo Box Office - Fan Backlash vs Kathleen Kennedy
https://youtu.be/EOvn8ivIqaMthis one ponders on how Solo could scrw the fox deal
Box Office for Solo 2nd Weekend Drop, Kathleen Kennedy
https://youtu.be/8lQWI609xfAWhat really hurt Solo was the poor reception in foreign markets.
Solo only took 44.9% of it's box office take abroad.
Ant Man and the Wasp is pulling similar numbers on a day by day basis as Solo did domestically - but it's pulling in higher numbers abroad. It's currently sitting at 53.2% and has yet to open in some big markets (e.g. China and the UK).
MCU movies seem to typically take between 55 and 65% of their revenue abroad - so even if Ant Man and the wasp only does the same as Solo did domestically - it could be looking at between $500 and $600 million globally.
Solo only took 44.9% of it's box office take abroad.
Ant Man and the Wasp is pulling similar numbers on a day by day basis as Solo did domestically - but it's pulling in higher numbers abroad. It's currently sitting at 53.2% and has yet to open in some big markets (e.g. China and the UK).
MCU movies seem to typically take between 55 and 65% of their revenue abroad - so even if Ant Man and the wasp only does the same as Solo did domestically - it could be looking at between $500 and $600 million globally.
Halb said:
Ant-Man, even though it's one of my faves, it was a weaker mcu film economically and no-one clamoured for a sequel, but I am happy we're getting one thanks to the story structure of the mcu, one could have predicted AM&tW would have a soft impact.
Indeed - I would never expect an Ant Man movie to do anywhere near as well as a Star Wars movie. The fact that Ant Man and The Wasp is only $100m off Solo's take after only a week and a half of release is absolutely staggering. I think it will have easily surpassed Solo by the second week in August.
Moonhawk said:
Indeed - I would never expect an Ant Man movie to do anywhere near as well as a Star Wars movie.
The fact that Ant Man and The Wasp is only $100m off Solo's take after only a week and a half of release is absolutely staggering. I think it will have easily surpassed Solo by the second week in August.
When it's finished it's run, I'm gonna check my prediction, I think I'm down for $800m for SOlo.The fact that Ant Man and The Wasp is only $100m off Solo's take after only a week and a half of release is absolutely staggering. I think it will have easily surpassed Solo by the second week in August.
Halb said:
I think I'm down for $800m for SOlo.
The Sean Connery Joke thread is a-thataway---------------------> 
On a serious note though - it must be very near the end. It's being shown in only 315 theatres domestically according to Box Office Mojo (having opened in over 4000) and is taking a little over $100,000 per day. I think breaking $390 million globally would be optimistic at this point.
Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 17th July 09:14
Solo has all but finished it's run at the cinema - and the final global box office take looks like it will be a little over $390m.
Does the fatigue excuse really stand up - especially when we consider that Ant Man and the Wasp is the third MCU movie to be released within a 6 month window and it has already surpassed Solo's box office take despite only being released in the UK yesterday - and is still 3 weeks away from it's China release.
Does the fatigue excuse really stand up - especially when we consider that Ant Man and the Wasp is the third MCU movie to be released within a 6 month window and it has already surpassed Solo's box office take despite only being released in the UK yesterday - and is still 3 weeks away from it's China release.
Jon Kasden has taken the time to write out 53 random factoids & notes about the making of Solo. Quite an interesting read and gives a small insight into the effort and thought that went into certain scenes:
https://twitter.com/JonKasdan/status/1040529505670...
https://twitter.com/JonKasdan/status/1040529505670...
I got bored and didn't finish it, I might go back to watch the ending but to be honest I've pretty much stopped caring about this latest round of films, The Last Jedi has killed my interest.
Did anyone else find the music really out of place, overdone and intrusive? It seemed like they were shoe-horning it in to make the film feel more 'star was' as the atmosphere just wasn't there.
Did anyone else find the music really out of place, overdone and intrusive? It seemed like they were shoe-horning it in to make the film feel more 'star was' as the atmosphere just wasn't there.
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