Is Macron France's Maggie?

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irocfan

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40,432 posts

190 months

Sunday 6th May 2018
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Looks like there could be trouble ahead for Air France (and SNCF)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44021431


Is Macron going to try and break the unions?

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 6th May 2018
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irocfan said:
Looks like there could be trouble ahead for Air France (and SNCF)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44021431


Is Macron going to try and break the unions?
He'll try. They usually do. Generally speaking this is "strike season" in France; the weather's nice, you get a bit of money while on strike, and when I was caught up in one in Toulouse it brought to mind Seurat's A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of la Grand Jatte. Very civil.




Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

75 months

Sunday 6th May 2018
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No.

MG CHRIS

9,083 posts

167 months

Monday 7th May 2018
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He is more like Blair tbf.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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'Get a degree and learn to feed yourself'. laugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-4452950...

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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BlackLabel said:
'Get a degree and learn to feed yourself'. laugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-4452950...
Hats off.

Now... Can you imagine Corbyn in the same situation?

bitchstewie

51,205 posts

210 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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BlackLabel said:
'Get a degree and learn to feed yourself'. laugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-4452950...
I watched this yesterday and I thought it was brilliant the way he did it.

Just the right balance of lecture but not too "stuck up" IMO.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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I quite like macron, seems he’s trying some new stuff, France has a lot of things right and people seem to have a better work life balance than the uk. I don’t think their union problems are at all comparable to the uk in the 70s.


loafer123

15,440 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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bhstewie said:
BlackLabel said:
'Get a degree and learn to feed yourself'. laugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-4452950...
I watched this yesterday and I thought it was brilliant the way he did it.

Just the right balance of lecture but not too "stuck up" IMO.
His problem now is that everyone who wants to wind him up will now shout “Manu!” from the back of every crowd.



mike74

3,687 posts

132 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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France's Maggie or Bliar... either way it's insane to think that so many ordinary working class folk were stupid/gullible enough to vote for (yet another) puppet of the big banks.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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loafer123 said:
bhstewie said:
BlackLabel said:
'Get a degree and learn to feed yourself'. laugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-4452950...
I watched this yesterday and I thought it was brilliant the way he did it.

Just the right balance of lecture but not too "stuck up" IMO.
His problem now is that everyone who wants to wind him up will now shout “Manu!” from the back of every crowd.
Yes, I saw that and thought he handled it well. Learn some respect and get a degree and a job before you start taking the piss. lol

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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It is not possible to have another Maggie......Only one devil exists

irocfan

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40,432 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Penelope Stopit said:
It is not possible to have another Maggie......Only one devil exists
bit harsh there - loads of worse world leaders than MT over the years. Worse English ones too

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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A bit early to make the comparison, Macron’s not achieved anything yet.

Time will tell whether he can drag France off its knees and back into a Country to be proud of, like Thatcher did for the UK.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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REALIST123 said:
A bit early to make the comparison, Macron’s not achieved anything yet.

Time will tell whether he can drag France off its knees and back into a Country to be proud of, like Thatcher did for the UK.
Is France on its knees? GDP just behind the U.K. unemployment much higher but life expectancy, birth rates, health care etc all higher.

Nothing like the U.K. in the 70s though.

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

169 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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He must be doing something right, my frothy lefty friends over there are furious with him hehe

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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El stovey said:
REALIST123 said:
A bit early to make the comparison, Macron’s not achieved anything yet.

Time will tell whether he can drag France off its knees and back into a Country to be proud of, like Thatcher did for the UK.
Is France on its knees? GDP just behind the U.K. unemployment much higher but life expectancy, birth rates, health care etc all higher.

Nothing like the U.K. in the 70s though.
The French - with all their inefficiencies - still match the UK for GDP per capita.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Vanden Saab

14,071 posts

74 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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El stovey said:
Is France on its knees? GDP just behind the U.K. unemployment much higher but life expectancy, birth rates, health care etc all higher.

Nothing like the U.K. in the 70s though.
Debt to GDP is 97% though against 85% for the UK and according to figures I can find their birth rate by 1,000 population in 2017 is lower than the UK. The average age is over a year older than in the UK and they have 2% more over 65s. Some may argue that having a longer life expectancy is not really good for the country as a whole.

I would be interested to see by what measure you base your statement that healthcare is "higher" in France maybe you could expand that point...as most figures I can find show that overall the NHS is much cheaper and better than the French system...
I would not suggest that it is on its knees but it seems to be behind the UK in many respects...

bloomen

6,893 posts

159 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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His thoughts are too complex to translate into action. It's utopia inside his mind.