Strictly 2018.
Discussion
Antony Moxey said:
As a bit of a PS I’m sure I’m not the only one getting thoroughly fed up with being continually told how a celebrity has never danced before - who f***ing cares, you’re getting one on one tuition from a genuine world class dancer for a minimum of ten hours a day six days a week which is probably the equivalent of a year’s dance lessons in a week so you should have at least picked something up - and how hard they’re working, well no s*** Sherlock, you’re getting paid a bucketload for a couple of weeks’ work and prime time exposure to millions, yeah I’d work quite hard too.
Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
They're just driving home the point that some are complete novices and others aren't. They're doing it to make it clear that they appreciate mistakes were made this year with some of the contestants. Ashley is good but you'd expect her to be with her background, Joe is brilliant given his previous history. I don't think it's unreasonable to point it out.Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
RichB said:
Watching this on catch-up after enjoying a nice Saturday evening curry but for Bruno and Shirley can't be serious giving him 10! Right from the start hey were bouncing the balls at different times and they remained marginally but noticeably out of sync through the routine. It was fun and fair play to him but 2 x 10s makes a mockery of some of the perfect dances.
Totally agree with this. For the last few weeks Shirley & increasingly so Bruno have made it clear that they want to sit on Joes face with their scores for him but 10s? For that? 
Antony Moxey said:
As a bit of a PS I’m sure I’m not the only one getting thoroughly fed up with being continually told how a celebrity has never danced before - who f***ing cares, you’re getting one on one tuition from a genuine world class dancer for a minimum of ten hours a day six days a week which is probably the equivalent of a year’s dance lessons in a week so you should have at least picked something up - and how hard they’re working, well no s*** Sherlock, you’re getting paid a bucketload for a couple of weeks’ work and prime time exposure to millions, yeah I’d work quite hard too.
Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
Don't agree. It's a matter of record that Ashley has had an enormous amount of 'proper' dance experience over many years. I know she's excellent on Strictly but it has to be a totally unfair advantage over, say, Joe or Stacey.Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
I still reckon it will be Faye, Joe and Ashley - though, hopefully, Stacey will replace Ashley in the final scores.
Robertj21a said:
Antony Moxey said:
As a bit of a PS I’m sure I’m not the only one getting thoroughly fed up with being continually told how a celebrity has never danced before - who f***ing cares, you’re getting one on one tuition from a genuine world class dancer for a minimum of ten hours a day six days a week which is probably the equivalent of a year’s dance lessons in a week so you should have at least picked something up - and how hard they’re working, well no s*** Sherlock, you’re getting paid a bucketload for a couple of weeks’ work and prime time exposure to millions, yeah I’d work quite hard too.
Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
Don't agree. It's a matter of record that Ashley has had an enormous amount of 'proper' dance experience over many years. I know she's excellent on Strictly but it has to be a totally unfair advantage over, say, Joe or Stacey.Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
I still reckon it will be Faye, Joe and Ashley - though, hopefully, Stacey will replace Ashley in the final scores.
In most if not every series of Strictly there have been professionals/semi-professionals (Debbie McGee etc). And every series attracts ‘unfair’ bleating ad nauseum on PH.
It’s about the best dancer irrespective of their background or innate ability.
Edited by Escort3500 on Sunday 25th November 09:26
Antony Moxey said:
All this about Ashley and Faye is nonsense. If it were true about their ‘dance experience’ being an advantage why are Lee Ryan and Danny John Jules no longer in the show? Regardless of who ends up in the bottom two, it’s the judges who have the say on who survives, not the public.
Talking of Danny J-J; saw him yesterday and he’d lost soooo much weight from when I’d seen him previously. Confirms the clear impression that many of those who progress to the mid-to-latter stages (understandibly) shed big pounds!Robertj21a said:
Don't agree. It's a matter of record that Ashley has had an enormous amount of 'proper' dance experience over many years. I know she's excellent on Strictly but it has to be a totally unfair advantage over, say, Joe or Stacey.
I still reckon it will be Faye, Joe and Ashley - though, hopefully, Stacey will replace Ashley in the final scores.
According to her Wiki, Ashley went to a dance school and joined Pussycatdolls as a dancer as they were a dance troop, at that time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_RobertsI still reckon it will be Faye, Joe and Ashley - though, hopefully, Stacey will replace Ashley in the final scores.
I think that the final will be Faye, Ashley, Stacey and Joe. I think Joe’s professional following will ensure he wins by a country mile. Bookies seldom get it wrong and they have him and Stacey as odds-on favourites - Faye and Ashley 7:1
Escort3500 said:
Robertj21a said:
Antony Moxey said:
As a bit of a PS I’m sure I’m not the only one getting thoroughly fed up with being continually told how a celebrity has never danced before - who f***ing cares, you’re getting one on one tuition from a genuine world class dancer for a minimum of ten hours a day six days a week which is probably the equivalent of a year’s dance lessons in a week so you should have at least picked something up - and how hard they’re working, well no s*** Sherlock, you’re getting paid a bucketload for a couple of weeks’ work and prime time exposure to millions, yeah I’d work quite hard too.
Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
Don't agree. It's a matter of record that Ashley has had an enormous amount of 'proper' dance experience over many years. I know she's excellent on Strictly but it has to be a totally unfair advantage over, say, Joe or Stacey.Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
I still reckon it will be Faye, Joe and Ashley - though, hopefully, Stacey will replace Ashley in the final scores.
In most if not every series of Strictly there have been professionals/semi-professionals (Debbie McGee etc). And every series attracts ‘unfair’ bleating ad nauseum on PH.
It’s about the best dancer irrespective of their background or innate ability.
Edited by Escort3500 on Sunday 25th November 09:26
Robertj21a said:
Escort3500 said:
Robertj21a said:
Antony Moxey said:
As a bit of a PS I’m sure I’m not the only one getting thoroughly fed up with being continually told how a celebrity has never danced before - who f***ing cares, you’re getting one on one tuition from a genuine world class dancer for a minimum of ten hours a day six days a week which is probably the equivalent of a year’s dance lessons in a week so you should have at least picked something up - and how hard they’re working, well no s*** Sherlock, you’re getting paid a bucketload for a couple of weeks’ work and prime time exposure to millions, yeah I’d work quite hard too.
Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
Don't agree. It's a matter of record that Ashley has had an enormous amount of 'proper' dance experience over many years. I know she's excellent on Strictly but it has to be a totally unfair advantage over, say, Joe or Stacey.Just stop with ramming it down our throats every week on the main show and ITT. We get it alright?
I still reckon it will be Faye, Joe and Ashley - though, hopefully, Stacey will replace Ashley in the final scores.
In most if not every series of Strictly there have been professionals/semi-professionals (Debbie McGee etc). And every series attracts ‘unfair’ bleating ad nauseum on PH.
It’s about the best dancer irrespective of their background or innate ability.
Edited by Escort3500 on Sunday 25th November 09:26
Escort3500 said:
No, because the Beeb wouldn’t allow it to comprise solely of professional dancers. The show is predicated on contestants of mixed abilities/background.
Maybe they could do a spin-off show where it is only about the dancing? They could call it something like Come Dancing. 
I've said this before, but Strictly is to dancing what Top Gear is to cars. Both shows attract similar moans and complaints from people who don't understand that both are merely light entertainment shows that are themed on their subject matter, rather than being about their subject matter. and aren't really for hardcore fans of the subject matter.
MXRod said:
To go from a non dancer to the performance she gave last night is incredible, for that reason alone , Stacy is streets ahead of the” professional “ contestants as well as the also rans
Is prior experience/ability a criterion to be taken into account by the judges? In other words, can they mark amateurs like Stacey or Joe higher because of the progress they’ve made during the series over, say, Faye? Not being argumentative, genuinely interested. Clockwork Cupcake said:
Escort3500 said:
No, because the Beeb wouldn’t allow it to comprise solely of professional dancers. The show is predicated on contestants of mixed abilities/background.
Maybe they could do a spin-off show where it is only about the dancing? They could call it something like Come Dancing. I've said this before, but Strictly is to dancing what Top Gear is to cars. Both shows attract similar moans and complaints from people who don't understand that both are merely light entertainment shows that are themed on their subject matter, rather than being about their subject matter. and aren't really for hardcore fans of the subject matter.
Escort3500 said:
MXRod said:
To go from a non dancer to the performance she gave last night is incredible, for that reason alone , Stacy is streets ahead of the” professional “ contestants as well as the also rans
Is prior experience/ability a criterion to be taken into account by the judges? In other words, can they mark amateurs like Stacey or Joe higher because of the progress they’ve made during the series over, say, Faye? Not being argumentative, genuinely interested. If a professional dancer improves over the series , then mark accordingly .
Otherwise, in general ,non- dancers have no chance .
I would need to be reminded if and when a non-dancer had won a prior series , without googling back series , I can’t remember .
Or as an alternative , no ex professionals or people with a dancing background
Escort3500 said:
MXRod said:
To go from a non dancer to the performance she gave last night is incredible, for that reason alone , Stacy is streets ahead of the” professional “ contestants as well as the also rans
Is prior experience/ability a criterion to be taken into account by the judges? In other words, can they mark amateurs like Stacey or Joe higher because of the progress they’ve made during the series over, say, Faye? Not being argumentative, genuinely interested. Robertj21a said:
Personally, I feel that Strictly should try harder to reflect the improvement from week one, through each stage. Just being an already-excellent dancer on week one seems a bit pointless for the viewing audience.
True. Although if you made it a stipulation then you'd get a lot of sand-bagging from the more capable dancers. Robertj21a said:
Escort3500 said:
MXRod said:
To go from a non dancer to the performance she gave last night is incredible, for that reason alone , Stacy is streets ahead of the” professional “ contestants as well as the also rans
Is prior experience/ability a criterion to be taken into account by the judges? In other words, can they mark amateurs like Stacey or Joe higher because of the progress they’ve made during the series over, say, Faye? Not being argumentative, genuinely interested. Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff