2010 528i or 2012 530d?

2010 528i or 2012 530d?

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Rosscow

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8,723 posts

162 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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What would you buy?!

A 2010 3.0 528i fully loaded M Sport (80k Miles) for under £14k trade seller. Options include comfort memory seats, adaptive suspension, adaptive xenons, full rear seat entertainment, rear camera, 19” rims, etc.

Or

A 2012 3.0 530d SE with sensible options (37k Miles) for £15.5k approved used BMW. Options include electric front memory seats, 18” rims, adaptive xenons, professional media, reverse camera, etc.

Average around 11k miles a year, mainly local miles semi urban with the odd long drive. We also tow a caravan.

Thoughts? Less to go wrong with the petrol?


mmm-five

11,224 posts

283 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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I'd go for the diesel, but that's because I do 25k motorway miles a year and worked out I save about £3k a year by using the devil's juice.

bmwmike

6,918 posts

107 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Petrol everytime because diesel stinks and has crappy power delivery IMO and stinks and gives people cancer and asthma. The n53 when it's running right is great. Being a post 2008 BMW engine it has the ability to throw some hefty bills your way, so I'd not count on it being more reliable than the tractor. Doesn't stop me driving one (530i) and apart from a set of injectors it's been fantastic.

ETA didn't notice mileage or if f10 or if F11 but the tractor is low enough miles that you could put a bmw warranty on it. The 528i at 80k will be expensive to warranty, my sub 60k f10 is 1k per year.




Edited by bmwmike on Monday 20th August 23:27

F10BMW

47 posts

77 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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530d no brainer. Plenty of low down torque which is exactly what a big car such as the 5 needs, and paired with the 8-speed Auto will make towing effortless.

Plus the N57 is one of the more reliable engines found in modern BMWs. DPF will be fine so long as it gets a longer drive every fortnight or so.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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528i every time, smooth as silk which is what a big German 'luxury' saloon is all about.

The 528i is a peach, when pootling around it is so smooth, the power from 800rom through to 1800rpm when it will change gear is just so linear it makes for such a relaxing way to waft, in a way the 530d just can't, I love that about larger NA petrols, especially when you remember there is no vibrations, noise etc. either.

Then when you want to have fun you it completely changes character, it starts to come alive, feel lighter, has a lovely growl and revs through to 7000rpm getting stronger and stronger through the rev range, again something I just don't get with my 530d and something I miss so much.


One thing I will say though, they both seem quite expensive?
I was going to view an 11 plate 528i M-Sport Touring last month, 72k miles, grey with oyster, nav prof, xenons and a few other options and he was asking £9500 for it.
The only reason I didn't was a 535i came up, we agreed £10,250 for that, 78k miles, 61 plate, all the toys. Just that he pulled it from the market as he was let down on his replacement.

Just sounds a lot for an 8 years old 5 series?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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F10BMW said:
530d no brainer. Plenty of low down torque which is exactly what a big car such as the 5 needs, and paired with the 8-speed Auto will make towing effortless.
This lack of wanting some engagement when driving cars like BMWs is why we have so many bloody diesels.

Good for towing??!! I could cry. biggrin

Rosscow

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8,723 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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gizlaroc said:
528i every time, smooth as silk which is what a big German 'luxury' saloon is all about.

The 528i is a peach, when pootling around it is so smooth, the power from 800rom through to 1800rpm when it will change gear is just so linear it makes for such a relaxing way to waft, in a way the 530d just can't, I love that about larger NA petrols, especially when you remember there is no vibrations, noise etc. either.

Then when you want to have fun you it completely changes character, it starts to come alive, feel lighter, has a lovely growl and revs through to 7000rpm getting stronger and stronger through the rev range, again something I just don't get with my 530d and something I miss so much.


One thing I will say though, they both seem quite expensive?
I was going to view an 11 plate 528i M-Sport Touring last month, 72k miles, grey with oyster, nav prof, xenons and a few other options and he was asking £9500 for it.
The only reason I didn't was a 535i came up, we agreed £10,250 for that, 78k miles, 61 plate, all the toys. Just that he pulled it from the market as he was let down on his replacement.

Just sounds a lot for an 8 years old 5 series?
Where are you finding them?! Can’t find any with that spec/age/mileage for the money you’re talking about.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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I can't either now, see the thread "used cars not selling" in general gassing.

Hence, at the moment I am holding off.

I refuse to pay £12-15k for a car that was £9-12k only a few weeks back.

I'm sure a lot of it is with the World Cup and summer holidays people are not thinking about selling their car at the moment.
I think once the kids go back and everyone is back into work mode again we will see prices correct themselves a bit as more stock comes onto the market.



Edited by gizlaroc on Tuesday 21st August 12:45

Rosscow

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Tuesday 21st August 2018
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gizlaroc said:
I can't either now, see the thread "used cars not selling" in general gassing.

Hence, at the moment I am holding off.

I refuse to pay £12-15k for a car that was £9-12k only a few weeks back.

I'm sure a lot of it is with the World Cup and summer holidays people are not thinking about selling their car at the moment.
I think once the kids go back and everyone is back into work mode again we will see prices correct themselves a bit as more stock comes onto the market.
Interesting! I'll hold off as well and see what the autumn brings. Thanks!

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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I should just add, I have an E61 530d Touring, it is 2 years older, it was also £14k 3 years ago, 2 years ago it was £10k, now two years on it is worth £5k, with 100k miles on it.

Hence, paying £14k now for an 8 year old 5 series is going to hurt unless you're happy to run it till it drops.

In 3 years time the G31 will have been out for nearly 5 years, the F11 will just be another old model, and it will be 11-12 years old. Hence I think prices at the mo are over the top.

pattyg

1,329 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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The AUC 530d for the approved warranty alone plus I don't mind diesel in a car this size.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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pattyg said:
The AUC 530d for the approved warranty alone plus I don't mind diesel in a car this size.
But you could warranty that car for £700 a year with BMW, so if you can find it £3k cheaper outside the main dealers it is worth doing.

bmwmike

6,918 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Not a fully comp mondial you couldn't, I think it's around 960 per year with 250 excess.

Rosscow

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Tuesday 21st August 2018
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gizlaroc said:
pattyg said:
The AUC 530d for the approved warranty alone plus I don't mind diesel in a car this size.
But you could warranty that car for £700 a year with BMW, so if you can find it £3k cheaper outside the main dealers it is worth doing.
Yeah, it's about £960.00 with a £250 excess.

There are literally NO decent 530d Touring for under £14k. Regardless of trim level or options.

There is ONE official approved used 530d Touring for under £16k nationwide. And that's the one that I spoke about above. Here: https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/result/?body_type=Touri...

Rosscow

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gizlaroc

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Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Yeah, just looked, has gone up a fair bit.

But you get my point, the price you are paying for a 2012 as an AUC can get you into a 2015 version outside the network.
Or get into a 2014 car and save £3k and put two years of warranty on it. So newer car, longer warranty and still a saving.




Rosscow

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gizlaroc said:
Yeah, just looked, has gone up a fair bit.

But you get my point, the price you are paying for a 2012 as an AUC can get you into a 2015 version outside the network.
Or get into a 2014 car and save £3k and put two years of warranty on it. So newer car, longer warranty and still a saving.
But there aren't any out of the network? I can't find a 530d SE newer than the one above with similar mileage for less money, can I?

stevesingo

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221 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Rosscow said:
There are literally NO decent 530d Touring for under £14k. Regardless of trim level or options.
I picked up a AUC 2012 535d Touring M Sport with 33k in January for £21k. There were plenty of 530d available at the time.

Strange that there are no such cars available now.

Rosscow

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Tuesday 21st August 2018
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stevesingo said:
Rosscow said:
There are literally NO decent 530d Touring for under £14k. Regardless of trim level or options.
I picked up a AUC 2012 535d Touring M Sport with 33k in January for £21k. There were plenty of 530d available at the time.

Strange that there are no such cars available now.
Yes, I can buy one for £21k easily!! But I don't really want to spend £21k on a 6 year old car.....

Fox-

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245 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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bmwmike said:
Petrol everytime because diesel stinks and has crappy power delivery IMO
I'm also no fan of diesel and flirted with the idea of replacing my then 2010 530d F10 with a similarly aged 528i. Unfortunately the 'crappy power delivery' was to be found in the N53 - it just didn't seem to work as well as the 3.0d in the F10 when paired with the 8 speed box. It needed revs to extract the performance which is absolutely the last thing you want in an 1800kg 8 speed automatic barge.

I was very sad as I love the silky smooth silent waft of the petrol engine and happily railed against the tyranny of diesel for 8 glorious years in my E39 530i frown

I ended up in another 530d.