Actors that steal the special out of Special Forces...

Actors that steal the special out of Special Forces...

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stongle

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5,910 posts

162 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Or put the "special" in.

Of late cinema / TV seems to be placing wholly inappropriate actors as Special Forces. After the car crash of Predator, with a mis-cast Boyd Holbrook as a SF sniper (would be out of his depth sniping ladies knickers on Love Island), we seem to have soft as sh*t actors trying to play SF characters.

Ryan Phillippe as Bob the mailer in Netflix version of Shooter is another bug bear of mine. Ok, he's not cast as a Navy SEAL, but he looks like his version of Hell Week was a 4 day Stag Do in Vegas.

WTF has happened? Or do I have to content myself watching reruns of "left" tennent Schaefer offing "krauts" in Where Eagles Dare for the rest of my days?

So whose bad / whose good?

Russian Troll Bot

24,965 posts

227 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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On the subject of the Predator franchise, Adrian Brody was horribly miscast in Predators. I could accept him as the sneaky assassin type, but not the gravel voiced badass.

stongle

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5,910 posts

162 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Russian Troll Bot said:
On the subject of the Predator franchise, Adrian Brody was horribly miscast in Predators. I could accept him as the sneaky assassin type, but not the gravel voiced badass.
Absolutely, Eric Bana must have been busy. Or maybe Tom Hardy doing 23% of Bane.

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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This is why I can't agree with people calling for Tom Hiddleston to be the next James Bond. He's about as intimidating as a kitten.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Annie in commando and predator and whatever else.
BA From the A team. (Were they all special forces)
Rambo.

All classics and convinced special forces. hehe

stongle

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5,910 posts

162 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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El stovey said:
Annie in commando and predator and whatever else.
BA From the A team. (Were they all special forces)
Rambo.

All classics and convinced special forces. hehe
You've just pitched in anyone with a speech impediment.

I think Marvel has fked up movies for good. Everyone needs a clean uniform and an instigram account or they're a baddie.

bongtom

2,018 posts

83 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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All special forces/elite forces I’ve met are unhinged and/or very scary.

I know a SEAL and he’s either got PTSD or he’s just mental.
His stories of drug running FBI money is interesting though!

Dwayne Johnston would never be SF because he’s too big and would stand out too much.

Halmyre

11,185 posts

139 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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stongle said:
Or put the "special" in.

Of late cinema / TV seems to be placing wholly inappropriate actors as Special Forces. After the car crash of Predator, with a mis-cast Boyd Holbrook as a SF sniper (would be out of his depth sniping ladies knickers on Love Island), we seem to have soft as sh*t actors trying to play SF characters.

Ryan Phillippe as Bob the mailer in Netflix version of Shooter is another bug bear of mine. Ok, he's not cast as a Navy SEAL, but he looks like his version of Hell Week was a 4 day Stag Do in Vegas.

WTF has happened? Or do I have to content myself watching reruns of "left" tennent Schaefer offing "krauts" in Where Eagles Dare for the rest of my days?

So whose bad / whose good?
I think the key word is 'actors'. It's not real.

I don't think special forces is really full of guys like Ah-nold and Steven Segal either.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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I don't think I've ever seen any fictional film which accurately portrays SF, in neither their work or the people. I remember one TV film about the Paras in NI that was very realistic - almost fly-on-the-wall; it was probably quite boring to the average viewer, following the 99% boredom / 1% terror ratio as it did.

P-Jay

10,563 posts

191 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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I think they vary a lot, and I'm by no means an expert, but the US SF people tend to be the man mountain type and the Brits more athletic.

Bradley Cooper in American Sniper was the same height and shoe size (I don't know why that's important but Bradley thought so) as Sniper and fantasist Chris Kyle and bulked up massively to to be as close as possible.

Looking at the pics of the 3 men who died during SAS selection in Brecon a few years ago I don't think Adrien Brody and Boyd Holbrook were all that wide of the mark.

Jesse 'the body' Ventura from the first Predator film was US Navy Underwater Demolition Team (precursor to Navy SEALs) but he wasn't the man mountain he was in the film, all that cam about when he was wrestling I'd guess.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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There was a picture of a bunch of SAS/SBS troopers(?) in the epic Falklands thread, and a few people commented on how completely ordinary they all looked. The guy with the receding hairline on the right hand side looks like my old English teacher.



rykard

447 posts

181 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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too many look 'soft' and unbelieveable. They need to have a 'real world hardness' about them, but most don't and it becomes a chore to watch. In the last series of strike back, the women looked harder than the male lead..

turbomoped

4,180 posts

83 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Whats realistic? All the SAS are you mad enought reality tv shows start of with a selection of rambo and arnie's who quickly fail and some speccy git or tiny woman wins the day.
If you only peddle the gym fanatic type image you get all the wrong recruits but tbh in the made up movie world people are
not keen to accept someone like themselves as a hero as it just makes them look a bigger failure for not doing it.

LordHaveMurci

12,040 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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bongtom said:
Dwayne Johnston would never be SF because he’s too big and would stand out too much.
I don't think that's part of the selection criterea hehe

daddy cool

4,001 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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I went through a "special forces" period in my film-watching a while back. I quite enjoyed "Special Forces" (2011) starring Djimon Hounsou, though probably not the most realistic. Some great ghillie-suit action in it.

Act of Valour (2012) starts off with a stealth water-based attack on a camp of kidnappers and its ace. The plot and some of the acting is a bit cheesy but I suppose this film does have characters that look like real SF guys, because the *are* actual Navy Seals...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1591479/?ref_=vi_md_t...

Oakey

27,561 posts

216 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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andy_s said:
I don't think I've ever seen any fictional film which accurately portrays SF, in neither their work or the people. I remember one TV film about the Paras in NI that was very realistic - almost fly-on-the-wall; it was probably quite boring to the average viewer, following the 99% boredom / 1% terror ratio as it did.
What about Act of Valor?

Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Oakey said:
What about Act of Valor?
Haven't seen it Oakey - will have a butchers smile

P-Jay

10,563 posts

191 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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andy_s said:
Oakey said:
What about Act of Valor?
Haven't seen it Oakey - will have a butchers smile
It's terrible, like a COD game only less interactive.

Prawo Jazdy

4,944 posts

214 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Zero Dark Thirty? I’m assuming that representative appearance can’t have been high on the agenda as most of the cast are quite beautiful people, but the fact that it took at least two viewings before I thought “He’s not a soldier - that’s Joel Edgerton!” must count for something?