Les Miserables (BBC iPlayer)
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Watched the first episode last night. I really enjoyed it and was disappointed I couldn't just continue on with the series. Spoiled by Netflix!
I haven't seen the Musical in any of it's forms, nor am I familiar with the story. So completely new experience for me. Will probably give the film a watch now.
I haven't seen the Musical in any of it's forms, nor am I familiar with the story. So completely new experience for me. Will probably give the film a watch now.
NordicCrankShaft said:
Surprised the same morons aren't complaining that the French revolution based story actors have a cockney accent. Also the same idiots seem to be having a moan that Javert is being played by a black actor, idiots.
Geez, someone’s 2019 seems to have got off to an angry start - Having an opinion about a TV drama isn’t necessarily moronic or idiotic.Edited by NordicCrankShaft on Tuesday 1st January 13:01
abzmike said:
Geez, someone’s 2019 seems to have got off to an angry start - Having an opinion about a TV drama isn’t necessarily moronic or idiotic.
Not just an opinion though is it? Questioning the ethnicity of the character previously played by a white person isn't moronic or idiotic at all to you?abzmike said:
SlimJim16v said:
People complaining there're no songs in it are indeed morons.
I agree on that point. 8 episodes I think, apparently the novel is 1500 pages so we are getting the whole of that. Amazing they crammed all of that into a stage show.Paul Dishman said:
abzmike said:
SlimJim16v said:
People complaining there're no songs in it are indeed morons.
I agree on that point. 8 episodes I think, apparently the novel is 1500 pages so we are getting the whole of that. Amazing they crammed all of that into a stage show.I've read the book a couple of times (BoW only the first time!), seen the musical many times and am enjoying it so far. Do think the writer has been a bit of a tit with his comment about the musical version!
i saw the scene where Fantine was giving up her daughter and I thought it was a feeble scene and the environment was too "clean" for that period - just lacked a bit of authenticity for me.
I will probably go back and see the whole thing but I wasn't all that impressed by the actress playing Fanitine at all in that scene
I will probably go back and see the whole thing but I wasn't all that impressed by the actress playing Fanitine at all in that scene
Enjoying this, but have never seen any other version, the show, or read the book for a meaningful comparison. Just glad there isn't any singing.
Could someone please help explain the obsession the policeman has with Jean Valjean? I imagine that in Paris at that time in history, there must have been all sorts of hideous crimes committed on a regular basis, yet this policeman is dedicating his life, with sleepless nights to try and track down a man who stole a purse from a child, and some candlesticks from a priest. Just does not add up to why he is taking it so personally, when he is also aware of the "good" he has done to the girl.
Could someone please help explain the obsession the policeman has with Jean Valjean? I imagine that in Paris at that time in history, there must have been all sorts of hideous crimes committed on a regular basis, yet this policeman is dedicating his life, with sleepless nights to try and track down a man who stole a purse from a child, and some candlesticks from a priest. Just does not add up to why he is taking it so personally, when he is also aware of the "good" he has done to the girl.
One coin from a child wasn't it?
The priest claimed to have given him the silver, so no crime there!
Does seem rather far fetched, but maybe it will become clear (not read the book or seen the musical)?
If you're ever in Guernsey go and see Victor Hugo's house there - My wife wanted to and I nearly didn't bother to go with her, but it was a highlight of our visit there a few years ago (and that's not damning with faint praise, we had a good holiday
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On the point of a black actor playing any part - Is Javert described as a white man in the book? I don't see that as important, particularly, but I wondered if people were upset about that in the same way they objected to a blonde playing Bond, when he's described as dark haired (or people bang on about Jack Reacher needing to be played by someone exactly the described height and weight from the book)? Sometimes it's not racism that drives peoples views, just a deviation from what they see as an important aspect of the character.
As I say, with no prior knowledge of the material, I don't think it's important and I think the actor plays the obsessive policeman very well, but if there's a detailed description of Javert as, say, a tall middle aged white man with piercing blue eyes, I can see people finding it a bit jarring.
Would it be acceptable to cast a black actor to play say George VI or Napoleon in a drama? You could argue that a good actor should be able to play any part, but I can't see Kenneth Branagh starring in a new Bob Marley biopic (I know my examples are 'real' people, but how about a Chinese actress playing Elizabeth Bennet?)
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The priest claimed to have given him the silver, so no crime there!
Does seem rather far fetched, but maybe it will become clear (not read the book or seen the musical)?
If you're ever in Guernsey go and see Victor Hugo's house there - My wife wanted to and I nearly didn't bother to go with her, but it was a highlight of our visit there a few years ago (and that's not damning with faint praise, we had a good holiday
)On the point of a black actor playing any part - Is Javert described as a white man in the book? I don't see that as important, particularly, but I wondered if people were upset about that in the same way they objected to a blonde playing Bond, when he's described as dark haired (or people bang on about Jack Reacher needing to be played by someone exactly the described height and weight from the book)? Sometimes it's not racism that drives peoples views, just a deviation from what they see as an important aspect of the character.
As I say, with no prior knowledge of the material, I don't think it's important and I think the actor plays the obsessive policeman very well, but if there's a detailed description of Javert as, say, a tall middle aged white man with piercing blue eyes, I can see people finding it a bit jarring.
Would it be acceptable to cast a black actor to play say George VI or Napoleon in a drama? You could argue that a good actor should be able to play any part, but I can't see Kenneth Branagh starring in a new Bob Marley biopic (I know my examples are 'real' people, but how about a Chinese actress playing Elizabeth Bennet?)
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Edited by marcosgt on Monday 21st January 14:02
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