MOT exemption and road tax
Discussion
I have a 1976 Alfa which has recently fallen into the tax and MOT exemption bracket. It was last MOT'd in 2017 and I had it on SORN until mid 2018
I taxed the car online during 2018 (nil cost) and took it off SORN. I'm sure I was prompted when doing that to declare the car eligible for no MOT which I did.
I've been driving it recently and when I checked yesterday online it came up as 'no MOT'. The Gov site seems to suggest that you need to print off form V112 and take it to a post office when you tax the vehicle (but why would I tax it a a PO when I can do it online?)
Can anyone clarify the process here in order to properly declare the car MOT exempt? Surely it's possible to do online... which I thought I already had?
Cheers
I taxed the car online during 2018 (nil cost) and took it off SORN. I'm sure I was prompted when doing that to declare the car eligible for no MOT which I did.
I've been driving it recently and when I checked yesterday online it came up as 'no MOT'. The Gov site seems to suggest that you need to print off form V112 and take it to a post office when you tax the vehicle (but why would I tax it a a PO when I can do it online?)
Can anyone clarify the process here in order to properly declare the car MOT exempt? Surely it's possible to do online... which I thought I already had?
Cheers
Did you ever send off your V5C to be updated to historic status? If not, then maybe this is what's causing the issue?
Either way a quick call to the DVLA should clear things up...I wouldn't ask at a post office as whole exemption/historic vehicle is a grey area and advice from them can lead you on a wild goose chase.... as I found out.....
Either way a quick call to the DVLA should clear things up...I wouldn't ask at a post office as whole exemption/historic vehicle is a grey area and advice from them can lead you on a wild goose chase.... as I found out.....
My MoT ran out after I taxed it (at the Post Office so I could declare MoT exempt but didn't get asked so I did ask and showed her the V112 form but the lady said it stated MoT exempt but not when I checked the gov website against the registration it wasn't) so just left the filled in V112 in the car. There doesn't appear to be any way to declare not eligible for MoT after you've taxed it, well not until next time anyway, which I assume the post office will then ask me.
BTW its a 1959 Moggy so should have been exempt anyway (pre 1960)
FFG
BTW its a 1959 Moggy so should have been exempt anyway (pre 1960)
FFG
My MoT also ran out and I re-taxed declaring the car MoT exempt. If I go and look on the DVLA site where you can check MOT status, it comes up with a big red warning about the MoT expired.
It does have a link where you can check if a vehicle qualifies for exemption but there doesn't seem to be a link between the taxation database where you declare exemption and the Mot one. Personally I'd have thought they would have sorted that by now, but..... government and computer programs....
It does have a link where you can check if a vehicle qualifies for exemption but there doesn't seem to be a link between the taxation database where you declare exemption and the Mot one. Personally I'd have thought they would have sorted that by now, but..... government and computer programs....
A recent note from the FBHVC suggests that the DVLA are shortly to start migrating their data to a new system, so perhaps it will be a bit more joined up once they have finished. I've always wondered why, when you do a vehicle enquiry and it shows a link to "check MOT history", it doesn't automatically bring up the MOT history for that vehicle, without you having to enter the registration again. Or maybe even show it all on the same screen. Maybe that'll happen too.
I read an article in Classic car weekly where FBHVC are recommending owners download a letter from the their site from DVLA stating exemption of car over 40 years old to give to police if you get pulled. Supposedly the DVLA state they do not record MOT exempt status and their only remit and interest is in road tax. They say the police know the requirements. If you don't have a current MOT the DVLA site will say MOT expired along with ANPR as this is a fact. Legaly as long as your car is over 40 years old and not modified, as their specification, you can use it with the apropriate insurance and road tax (VHI = £0.00).
Holy thread resurrection Batman........
I've just looked at the .gov site and it says to present the form at the Post Office. If the only time I can do this is when I next need to apply for the (zero) Road Fund Licence, it means I'll be driving around for several months after the current MOT runs out. I'd prefer some confirmation MOT isn't required.
I've just looked at the .gov site and it says to present the form at the Post Office. If the only time I can do this is when I next need to apply for the (zero) Road Fund Licence, it means I'll be driving around for several months after the current MOT runs out. I'd prefer some confirmation MOT isn't required.
droopsnoot said:
I've never done anything with a V112 for my two, I just let the MOTs run out. Now, when I renew the VED online, it asks me to confirm that they aren't modified and are eligible for MOT exemption.
But until the date of VED renewal, is there a possible problem if stopped on the road, or indeed with insurance?I checked the insurance policy for my other car before I took it for MOT (MOT had lapsed). and it said the car isn't insured if it being driven when it is legally required to have an MOT but doesn't have one. I rang the insurance broker and they confirmed it isn't legally required to have an MOT for the journey to/from the MOT centre, so is covered for that event. My VED application (when it arrives) states "this vehicle required a valid MOT certificate" so between the last MOT and the new VED application, there is a 'grey period' I guess I could SORN it and go to the Post Office and get it sorted with the V112 and a VED application (buy i wouldn't have the form).
Oceanrower said:
I have no doubt Twig will be along soon to explain bu, in short, your insurance company is wrong. The lack of an MOT does not invalidate your insurance.
You may well be correct. Disregarding that, I'd still like some sort of confirmation from DVSA that I don't need an MOT - All I'd have (if stopped by Police) would be the records stating an MOT is needed!Since the 40-year rule this problem has occurred because the DVLA have not updated their systems. I've just checked four friend's cars and they have the red warning, and it means absolutely nothing. The DVLA computer automatically registers your car as historic when it clicks past forty years since first registration, except that it is 40 years plus to January 1st the year following IIRC. You do not need an MOT and your car is perfectly legal. It is just a glitch in the system.
lowdrag said:
except that it is 40 years plus to January 1st the year following IIRC.
April 1st the year following. I think the key to the insurance wording is in the "if it is required to have one" part, although it is the case that having no MOT is not a reason for invalidating insurance cover even if you do need one and don't have it. The main difference it would make is that if your car were written off, the pay-out value may be reduced because of the lack of MOT, but I think even that is only if it wouldn't have passed one.
I think on both mine, the MOT and VED renewals are around the same time, so I cannot say what happens when that is not the case. I read various things and went with the fact that the vehicle is exempt from having an MOT, so I didn't worry about being stopped.
slurpysi said:
My Lancia is registered in 1980 so is now tax and mot exempt. Can I apply for this online or do I have to go to the post office ? I can't imagine my local post office would have a clue about this
I just went to the local PO on April 1st on the year that it became exempt, and the lady behind the counter did it all for me - changed it to VED exempt, sent the V5 off and gave me 12 months VED for free. I read that it does vary from PO to PO, but it's not as if the jumping forward on April 1st is new any more. I'd say it would be worth a try in the PO - it took me longer to queue than it did for her to process it.Lotobear said:
. The Gov site seems to suggest that you need to print off form V112 and take it to a post office when you tax the vehicle (but why would I tax it a a PO when I can do it online?)
Can anyone clarify the process here in order to properly declare the car MOT exempt? Surely it's possible to do online... which I thought I already had?
Cheers
You need to physically take your V5 plus print out form V112 , to a post office , it can not be done on line as you would be changing the status on the V5 to ( tax exempt ) Can anyone clarify the process here in order to properly declare the car MOT exempt? Surely it's possible to do online... which I thought I already had?
Cheers
Its very simple i did on my Capri after 1st lockdown , take your V5 and form signed form V112 MOT exemtion declaration , to your local post office , they will give you a reciept for your V5 , which is then sent to Swansea , and your MOT is automatically put onto the database as MOT Exempt , severral weeks later you will get your new V5 back with Historic classification .
You can drive at any time before you recieve your new V5
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