Van limits HELP!!

[ashleyman]

I've looked everywhere and got conflicting answers. I've asked friends who drive vans and got conflicting answers. I don't want to break the law so I am hoping someone here knows the answer.

I've been helping a friend out with some work this week and I've been driving one of his businesses vehicles - mostly driving in convoy with him and his other workers. I've asked 6 times if I am covered on the insurance and he's said yes so I think I am ok there. I've not asked to see proof but maybe I should.

Anyway, what are the speed limits for vans?

I've always thought it was:

50MPH on an NSL single carriageway
60MPH on a NSL dual carriageway
70 on a motorway

All other limits the same as cars. So a dual carriageway signposted as 60 is 60 for the van too right?

BUT, he is telling me vans aren't limited to 60 on a NSL dual carriageway (on a road like the A3) but I think it is.

Can anyone advise?

Just so we're clear this is the van



Thank you.

Edited by ashleyman on Wednesday 23 January 22:53

[johnoz]

https://www.scottishdrivinglaw.co.uk/wp-content/up...

[ashleyman]

johnoz said:

https://www.scottishdrivinglaw.co.uk/wp-content/up...

Seen that. Does it apply outside Scotland? I am in England.

[Pica-Pica]

Goods vehicles (not more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight)
50 single carriageway
60 dual carriageway
70 motorway
60 motorway if articulated or towing a trailer


https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

[Ilovejapcrap]

ashleyman said:

All other limits the same as cars. So a dual carriageway signposted as 60 is 60 for the van too right?

Edited by ashleyman on Wednesday 23 January 22:53

If the area has a sign with a speed in it, for example 30 that's the speed limit.

If it shows the national speed limit sign than its dependent on the vehicle. so a dual carriageway with a 60 sign would be 60 in a van, just like on a national speed limit dual carriageway.

However a car would only do 60 rather than 70 which they can usually do on a dual carriageway.

[Truffs]

Pica-Pica said:

Goods vehicles (not more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight)
50 single carriageway
60 dual carriageway
70 motorway
60 motorway if articulated or towing a trailer


https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Pica-pica has the correct limits and Ilovejapcrap attempts to explain it. Basically you can only do 70 on a motorway, 60 on a dual carriageway and 50 on single lane roads unless a signpost states a different limit.

Stick to that and you have no worries.

[M_A_S]

Ilovejapcrap said:

ashleyman said:

All other limits the same as cars. So a dual carriageway signposted as 60 is 60 for the van too right?

Edited by ashleyman on Wednesday 23 January 22:53

If the area has a sign with a speed in it, for example 30 that's the speed limit.

Not quite. Some dual carriageways have 70mph signs, it's still 60mph for vans.

[Ilovejapcrap]

M_A_S said:

Ilovejapcrap said:

ashleyman said:

All other limits the same as cars. So a dual carriageway signposted as 60 is 60 for the van too right?

Edited by ashleyman on Wednesday 23 January 22:53

If the area has a sign with a speed in it, for example 30 that's the speed limit.

Not quite. Some dual carriageways have 70mph signs, it's still 60mph for vans.

ohh never seen that

[Pica-Pica]

Ilovejapcrap said:

ohh never seen that

A55 has sections of dual carriageway that are signed 70. On other sections it is signed as NSL. (There is also a 50mph section).
The 70mph limit is because it is a ‘special road’ so does not qualify as NSL, so a speed limit has to be applied. I do not fully understand it, some explanations are given here.
Summary:
Two sections between Llanddulas (Junction 23) to Conwy (Junction 17) are signed as a 70 mph (110 km/h) speed limit because they are classed as non-motorway special roads. Unlike other sections of the A55 that have National Speed Limit (NSL) signage and are accessible to all motor vehicles, motorway-style restrictions (although the A55 is not a motorway) apply on these stretches of road (e.g. no pedestrians, learner drivers, farm vehicles etc). As the section is not part of the UK motorway network, or classed as an all-purpose road (public right of way), the National Speed Limit does not apply so 70 mph (110 km/h) signs (the maximum speed permitted on UK roads) are used instead.

http://www.roads.org.uk/motorway/a55/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A55_road

Edited by Pica-Pica on Friday 25th January 00:07