Patrick Stewart to return as Picard

Patrick Stewart to return as Picard

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InitialDave

11,899 posts

119 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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AlexC1981 said:
For a moment I thought Seven's small ship was the Delta Flyer.
Timeframe-wise, it could well have been based on the design.

quigonjay

640 posts

221 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Re the end scene in ep4

How do Picard and Seven know each other? is it something to do with the comic book continuation of TNG?

BenjiS

3,797 posts

91 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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schueymcfee said:
Same goes for the World he’s living in. It’s so far removed from TNG it could be 50 years before Kirk, not 20 years after TNG.
I dunno, I can buy into that. I was watching a football documentary with my lad last night. “Class of ‘92” on Amazon. About Beckham, Giggs, Scholes playing at Manchester United from 92 to roughly 99. So 20 years ago near enough.

The world it showed was very different from now, both in technology, society and attitude, I’d honestly forgotten how different it was. Little internet, no smart phones, and crucially pre-9/11 and the War On Terror. In the real world we’ve had some major events drastically change the direction of society and history, but because you’ve lived through them, they don’t seem quite so obvious. Same in Picard with the evacuation of Romulus and the Synth attack.

Rumblestripe

2,937 posts

162 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Catatafish said:
My god, that last one was dire.

My predictions for the remainder holographic crew to satisfy diversity:

Lesbian chef (trans man identifies as lesbo)

Super camp toilet attendant

800000 Scouse midgets to polish the 40 million lights inside the ship
FFS don't try to be funny, that is nearly as embarrassing as calling someone "woke". When TOS was first screened there was a black woman on the bridge in one episode the captain kissed her! Two senior officers were Russian and Japanese. Star Trek has always been at the forefront of equality.

On the subject of the episode, I feel that we should be through the back story now. We have assembled "The Crew", hopefully we can all now enjoy their adventure. This one was a little slow but set everything up nicely by the end,

ben5575

6,264 posts

221 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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I’m in the boring camp atm.

Gandalf’s now got an armoured elf with a sword flanking him on his space quest. Just needs a couple of Hobbits.

If it wasn’t Patrick Stewart/‘JL’, this show would be getting panned as a parody. I keep expecting Paddy McGuinness and Keith Lemon to enter stage left.

‘Engage’ and all that.

Edited by ben5575 on Saturday 15th February 16:51

Jazzy Jag

3,422 posts

91 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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How does JL know 7 of 9?

She was in Voyager, stuck in the Delta Quadrant after TNG timeline IIRC?



juggsy

1,428 posts

130 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Jazzy Jag said:
How does JL know 7 of 9?

She was in Voyager, stuck in the Delta Quadrant after TNG timeline IIRC?
There may be more back story coming, but it’s fair to assume all the voyager crew will be well known after coming back from the delta quadrant, particularly the ex Borg.

And given Picard had a stint in the collective, even more likely he’ll know who she is even if they haven’t met. She’ll certainly know him for the same reasons

ChocolateFrog

25,307 posts

173 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Rumblestripe said:
Catatafish said:
My god, that last one was dire.

My predictions for the remainder holographic crew to satisfy diversity:

Lesbian chef (trans man identifies as lesbo)

Super camp toilet attendant

800000 Scouse midgets to polish the 40 million lights inside the ship
FFS don't try to be funny, that is nearly as embarrassing as calling someone "woke". When TOS was first screened there was a black woman on the bridge in one episode the captain kissed her! Two senior officers were Russian and Japanese. Star Trek has always been at the forefront of equality.

On the subject of the episode, I feel that we should be through the back story now. We have assembled "The Crew", hopefully we can all now enjoy their adventure. This one was a little slow but set everything up nicely by the end,
I've banged on about it before but female Captain, Chief Engineer and Science officer in Voyager was pretty forward thinking too for the mid/early 90's.

That said it does always feel horribly forced these days. Like if 2 remotely similar people stand next to each other someone on set will shout snap.

ChocolateFrog

25,307 posts

173 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Was a fundamentally boring episode for me. It only keeps my attention for the trekky/geeky stuff.

If it was a standalone Sci-fi program I'd have binned it off by now.

That said I'm interested to see the 7 of 9 bit unfold.

ChocolateFrog

25,307 posts

173 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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juggsy said:
Jazzy Jag said:
How does JL know 7 of 9?

She was in Voyager, stuck in the Delta Quadrant after TNG timeline IIRC?
There may be more back story coming, but it’s fair to assume all the voyager crew will be well known after coming back from the delta quadrant, particularly the ex Borg.

And given Picard had a stint in the collective, even more likely he’ll know who she is even if they haven’t met. She’ll certainly know him for the same reasons
It always feels like Star Fleet is actually a pretty small organisation, despite the massive infrastructure. You are regularly given the impression that all SF captains atleast know of each other, let alone the big hitters.

Civpilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
juggsy said:
Jazzy Jag said:
How does JL know 7 of 9?

She was in Voyager, stuck in the Delta Quadrant after TNG timeline IIRC?
There may be more back story coming, but it’s fair to assume all the voyager crew will be well known after coming back from the delta quadrant, particularly the ex Borg.

And given Picard had a stint in the collective, even more likely he’ll know who she is even if they haven’t met. She’ll certainly know him for the same reasons
It always feels like Star Fleet is actually a pretty small organisation, despite the massive infrastructure. You are regularly given the impression that all SF captains atleast know of each other, let alone the big hitters.
This is set 14 years after Picard quit Starfleet as an Admiral. I'm thinking Voyager long since returned home before that (if we go real passage of time then Voyager would be home and I would think her ships logs would be required reading for all Starfleet Admirals and Captains. If not all officers)

As stated above they may not have met, but you can be sure he knows all about Voyager, her crew and their exploits (in fact an ex-borg drone would be of special interest to him I would think)

cologne2792

2,126 posts

126 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Civpilot said:
This is set 14 years after Picard quit Starfleet as an Admiral. I'm thinking Voyager long since returned home before that (if we go real passage of time then Voyager would be home and I would think her ships logs would be required reading for all Starfleet Admirals and Captains. If not all officers)

As stated above they may not have met, but you can be sure he knows all about Voyager, her crew and their exploits (in fact an ex-borg drone would be of special interest to him I would think)
Voyager returned to Earth in 2378 - the year before Star Trek: Nemesis, in which Admiral Janeway gives Picard his orders.

sparks_190e

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12,738 posts

213 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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cologne2792 said:
Civpilot said:
This is set 14 years after Picard quit Starfleet as an Admiral. I'm thinking Voyager long since returned home before that (if we go real passage of time then Voyager would be home and I would think her ships logs would be required reading for all Starfleet Admirals and Captains. If not all officers)

As stated above they may not have met, but you can be sure he knows all about Voyager, her crew and their exploits (in fact an ex-borg drone would be of special interest to him I would think)
Voyager returned to Earth in 2378 - the year before Star Trek: Nemesis, in which Admiral Janeway gives Picard his orders.
Considering Voyager was her first command she rose to Admiral quickly, 7 years?

eltawater

3,114 posts

179 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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sparks_190e said:
Considering Voyager was her first command she rose to Admiral quickly, 7 years?
I think kicking arse back from the Delta Quadrant and regularly handing some nanoprobe payback to the Borg Collective deserves some special recognition.

essayer

9,065 posts

194 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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sparks_190e said:
Considering Voyager was her first command she rose to Admiral quickly, 7 years?
Kirk managed it in 5 wink

carl_w

9,180 posts

258 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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sparks_190e said:
Considering Voyager was her first command she rose to Admiral quickly, 7 years?
Vice Admiral

sparks_190e

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12,738 posts

213 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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New screens of episode 5 are out. Looks like the piss taking has elevated. Picard with an eye patch anyone?

No, no one asked for that after 18 years!

https://trekmovie.com/2020/02/18/check-out-new-pho...

MiniMan64

16,924 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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eltawater said:
sparks_190e said:
Considering Voyager was her first command she rose to Admiral quickly, 7 years?
I think kicking arse back from the Delta Quadrant and regularly handing some nanoprobe payback to the Borg Collective deserves some special recognition.
She/they wiped out a rather a large chunk of the collective in the finale didn’t they?

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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After the dire 2nd episode I actually quite enjoyed 3 and 4.
It's got annoyances like the super secret Romulan organisation that everyone seems to know about. The elite soldiers of said secret army getting thier butts kicked by 3 pensioners and a geek.
Didn't understand why the Romulans on that planet were down on JLP. Felt a bit like the Jews being down on Schindler because he was German.



eltawater

3,114 posts

179 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Bullett said:
After the dire 2nd episode I actually quite enjoyed 3 and 4.
It's got annoyances like the super secret Romulan organisation that everyone seems to know about. The elite soldiers of said secret army getting thier butts kicked by 3 pensioners and a geek.
Didn't understand why the Romulans on that planet were down on JLP. Felt a bit like the Jews being down on Schindler because he was German.
I think it's because after the Mars incident, the subsequent about-face by Starfleet on the Romulan rescue effort and Picard withdrawing from public life, that they felt he'd abandoned them and doomed the remaining Romulan population.