Patrick Stewart to return as Picard

Patrick Stewart to return as Picard

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poing

8,743 posts

199 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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I'm one of the few that found it brilliant.

Couldn't give a toss how Picard and Seven know each other, she's there and I'm pleased to see her. It's science fiction, I'm willing to let a few minor details go.

Looking forward to the next one biggrin

rider73

2,993 posts

76 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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poing said:
I'm one of the few that found it brilliant.

Couldn't give a toss how Picard and Seven know each other, she's there and I'm pleased to see her. It's science fiction, I'm willing to let a few minor details go.

Looking forward to the next one biggrin
in that case , i'm hoping for a KIRK appearance.....

james_TW

16,287 posts

196 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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TPSA7514

741 posts

56 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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james_TW said:
It's sad that I know that's a still; from Wrath of Khan. From when he is pretending to be marooned to wrongfoot Khan

TPSA7514

741 posts

56 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Civpilot said:
This is set 14 years after Picard quit Starfleet as an Admiral. I'm thinking Voyager long since returned home before that (if we go real passage of time then Voyager would be home and I would think her ships logs would be required reading for all Starfleet Admirals and Captains. If not all officers)

As stated above they may not have met, but you can be sure he knows all about Voyager, her crew and their exploits (in fact an ex-borg drone would be of special interest to him I would think)
In one of the films (I'm not sure which) Janeway now an admiral addresses him via a video link.
So he would have known her years before and presumably met the others.

cologne2792

2,126 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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TPSA7514 said:
In one of the films (I'm not sure which) Janeway now an admiral addresses him via a video link.
So he would have known her years before and presumably met the others.
Nemesis

geeks

9,121 posts

138 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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TPSA7514 said:
james_TW said:
It's sad that I know that's a still; from Wrath of Khan. From when he is pretending to be marooned to wrongfoot Khan
Spock playing possum!

kowalski655

14,599 posts

142 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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eltawater said:
I think it's because after the Mars incident, the subsequent about-face by Starfleet on the Romulan rescue effort and Picard withdrawing from public life, that they felt he'd abandoned them and doomed the remaining Romulan population.
Wasn't there also a mention of the Federation embarrassing Romulan ingenuity by saving them, when the Romulans felt they could do it themselves? (Ungrateful pointy eared gits!)

Corso Marche

1,716 posts

200 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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kowalski655 said:
Wasn't there also a mention of the Federation embarrassing Romulan ingenuity by saving them, when the Romulans felt they could do it themselves? (Ungrateful pointy eared gits!)
They saw it as a strategy by the Federation to divide the Romulans and scatter them across the galaxy in small pockets, thusby splitting up and splintering the once mighty Romulan empire.

ChocolateFrog

24,852 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th February 2020
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Well that was graphic.

cologne2792

2,126 posts

125 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Nasty.

james_TW

16,287 posts

196 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Icheb frown

This felt like a slow episode that didn't really say very much but just filled 45 minutes - I'm just not sure that this one added to the story. I'll have to watch it again.

I wonder if this will be a series of cameos with the star trek music thrown in - I do hope not...

Flip Martian

19,503 posts

189 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Honestly didn’t really enjoy that one. We were eating dinner, figuring Star Trek is a safe watch over dinner... the shock ending was entirely predictable too.

Alex

9,975 posts

283 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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I'm beginning to think it's not actually very good. I'm still enjoying it, but the writing is lazy, the characters stereotyped and wafer thin, and it's full of cliches and exposition.

Flip Martian

19,503 posts

189 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Alex said:
I'm beginning to think it's not actually very good. I'm still enjoying it, but the writing is lazy, the characters stereotyped and wafer thin, and it's full of cliches and exposition.
Yep - the writing... My wife finished 1 of 7 of 9's dramatic pause "reveal" sentences last night. She watches a lot of US drama and scifi. The writers must all just have been taught at the same time. Very poor.

Sophisticated Sarah

15,077 posts

168 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Flip Martian said:
Yep - the writing... My wife finished 1 of 7 of 9's dramatic pause "reveal" sentences last night. She watches a lot of US drama and scifi. The writers must all just have been taught at the same time. Very poor.
“Darling, if you dressed as 7 I think you completing her lines would be more convincing... please do...please please please please” is the line you were looking for tongue out

irish boy

3,523 posts

235 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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You lot are hard to please. It was great and Jeri Ryan looks stunning for 51.

Alex

9,975 posts

283 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Flip Martian said:
Yep - the writing... My wife finished 1 of 7 of 9's dramatic pause "reveal" sentences last night. She watches a lot of US drama and scifi. The writers must all just have been taught at the same time. Very poor.
I bet I can guess which one!

"...something like that."

cologne2792

2,126 posts

125 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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It's just lazy.

Alex Kurtzman gets most of the flak for the current state of Star Trek and probably deserves it too.
His unique skill is taking ANY existing franchise and making it just like any OTHER franchise.

He was a writer and producer of Alias, one of many JJ Abrams projects, about two decades ago and the slow burn reveals and twists could have come straight from any number of Alias episodes except we'd have had Jennifer Garner instead of Jeri Ryan.

He lacks any ability to be positive and upbuilding. The show lacks any real soul or comradery between the characters and the optimism of the last 54 years of Star Trek is missing.

I appreciate it reflects the times that we're living in but I get the feeling that the whole basis of Discovery & Picard is simply to cash in on the support of existing fan's goodwill whilst simultaneously alienating them and telling them that they're out of touch.

Star Trek was very rarely Dark Sci-Fi even though it had some pretty dark themes in DS9 & Voyager but it was handled very carefully. This allowed exploration and consideration of heavy stuff in a way that was accessible across a wide age group.

Episode 5 seemed more like Tarantino than anything else.

If you want to watch a Tarantino film then fine. Just don't try and mix it with Star Trek because they are incompatible.

Perhaps that's why his long standing attempts to make an R rated Trek movie haven't worked ?

Flip Martian

19,503 posts

189 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Sophisticated Sarah said:
Flip Martian said:
Yep - the writing... My wife finished 1 of 7 of 9's dramatic pause "reveal" sentences last night. She watches a lot of US drama and scifi. The writers must all just have been taught at the same time. Very poor.
“Darling, if you dressed as 7 I think you completing her lines would be more convincing... please do...please please please please” is the line you were looking for tongue out
rofl Ah I'm old fashioned - she can stick to the French maid outfit laugh