Chernobyl (HBO Mini Series)

Chernobyl (HBO Mini Series)

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FourWheelDrift

82,057 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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This looks like fun, no I don't mean fun I mean the opposite of fun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZyDvtX85Y

sly fox

1,826 posts

184 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
This looks like fun, no I don't mean fun I mean the opposite of fun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZyDvtX85Y
Why? Just why would you do that?

vxr8mate

1,519 posts

154 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Apparently the 'accident' singlehandedly halted the sale of Y fronts. getmecoat

DamienB

1,172 posts

184 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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As a counterpoint to the doom and gloom and people apparently snuffing it immediately...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/...

Steamer

12,392 posts

178 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Doofus said:
I was distracted when not only did we have Martin "st on it!" Goodman, but also Jim, their neighbour, in the control room at the same time.

I fully expect Wilson to save the day.
I thought the Dad played an excellent part - although I did have to do a double take when I saw him.

Pesty

42,655 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Well this show seems to have made an impact on popular culture. The guys at 4 Han are memeing away.


Rick_1138

3,214 posts

143 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Finally got a spare bit to watch ep 1.

I enjoyed it, i know enough about the actual disaster and read a fair bit on the event that some of the radiation effects they are showing wouldnt happen quite as quickly as they are, a bit over dramatised, but ill forgive that. I really like the political stuff showing the total paralyses the soviet system of hierarchy and fear created when something went catastrophically long that couldn't be seen to be a failure.

The senior guy on the control room i liked his performance, very controlling but realising whats happening, and the poor guy they made look into the reactor even though they knew what was happening, but the massive propaganda denial in them still made them go through with it.

I also see its 5 episodes, i had assumed it was 3 with a mini series, so that's good. smile

llewop

3,295 posts

176 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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sly fox said:
FourWheelDrift said:
This looks like fun, no I don't mean fun I mean the opposite of fun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZyDvtX85Y
Why? Just why would you do that?
um
words fail me! Clearly from some of the other things she does, not entirely stupid, but her handling of the particle is remarkably dim.



Steamer

12,392 posts

178 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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llewop said:
sly fox said:
FourWheelDrift said:
This looks like fun, no I don't mean fun I mean the opposite of fun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZyDvtX85Y
Why? Just why would you do that?
um
words fail me! Clearly from some of the other things she does, not entirely stupid, but her handling of the particle is remarkably dim.
Maybe she just didn't like that hand?

hairykrishna

11,334 posts

168 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Oh dear. I watched the first bit of her finding and bagging it and thought "She's a bit too casual, I'd wear gloves and a face mask and I'd definitely want a trowel rather than digging with my hands but that's not totally awful". Then she started dividing the pile up on her bloody desk.


llewop

3,295 posts

176 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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hairykrishna said:
Oh dear. I watched the first bit of her finding and bagging it and thought "She's a bit too casual, I'd wear gloves and a face mask and I'd definitely want a trowel rather than digging with my hands but that's not totally awful". Then she started dividing the pile up on her bloody desk.
it was totally awful, gloves and a trowel wouldn't be exactly difficult and actually a damned sight more effective (the trowel at least). I suspect the desk was in a hostel within the exclusion zone, so a lovely gift to whoever stayed there next!

(I wouldn't be too bothered about a face mask unless the stuff was being blown about - but have the advantage of seeing rather a lot of air samples from out there so a reasonable feel for how mobile the stuff isn't.... other than if you go poking around in it with your fingers! banghead )

FourWheelDrift

82,057 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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She had long hair when she started.

Welshbeef

44,036 posts

163 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Watched it and loved it so dark overwhelming and holy fk.



A question If those two chaps had not turned on the water what would have happened? “Meltdown” but what really would that mean in that location

LaurasOtherHalf

19,832 posts

161 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Welshbeef said:
A question If those two chaps had not turned on the water what would have happened? “Meltdown” but what really would that mean in that location
Nothing. It was a pointless exercise that had no result (not that they were completely aware of that).

Welshbeef

44,036 posts

163 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Welshbeef said:
A question If those two chaps had not turned on the water what would have happened? “Meltdown” but what really would that mean in that location
Nothing. It was a pointless exercise that had no result (not that they were completely aware of that).
So they should have simply let the plant burn and burn out as it would have made no difference to the contamination

confucuis

1,151 posts

89 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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llewop said:
sly fox said:
FourWheelDrift said:
This looks like fun, no I don't mean fun I mean the opposite of fun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZyDvtX85Y
Why? Just why would you do that?
um
words fail me! Clearly from some of the other things she does, not entirely stupid, but her handling of the particle is remarkably dim.
Surely, that cannot be real? Would she not be feeling the effects immediately?!

LaurasOtherHalf

19,832 posts

161 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Welshbeef said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Welshbeef said:
A question If those two chaps had not turned on the water what would have happened? “Meltdown” but what really would that mean in that location
Nothing. It was a pointless exercise that had no result (not that they were completely aware of that).
So they should have simply let the plant burn and burn out as it would have made no difference to the contamination
It’s quite a complex subject that you obviously don’t understand. The role of that water wasn’t as a fire suppressant, it was to cool the core of the reactor and generate steam to drive the turbines. In normal use that is.

They were attempting to open the valves to get the core back under control and save the reactor.

Problem was, the water pipes were destroyed by the explosion and even if they weren’t, there was no reactor left for them to be connected to. It was destroyed.

Pesty

42,655 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Welshbeef said:
A question If those two chaps had not turned on the water what would have happened? “Meltdown” but what really would that mean in that location
Nothing. It was a pointless exercise that had no result (not that they were completely aware of that).
Not sure if they are mixing the story up.

There were two or three people that waded knee deep in radioactive water in the dark underneath the reactor.

That water it was feared would turn to steam and be such a large explosion all the remaining reactors would go up too. If the molten n core got to it.

They opened valves that drain most of that water. I don’t know if the core melted through that far.
Maybe that’s where the elephants foot ended up.

Edited by Pesty on Thursday 9th May 23:40

Pesty

42,655 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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confucuis said:
llewop said:
sly fox said:
FourWheelDrift said:
This looks like fun, no I don't mean fun I mean the opposite of fun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZyDvtX85Y
Why? Just why would you do that?
um
words fail me! Clearly from some of the other things she does, not entirely stupid, but her handling of the particle is remarkably dim.
Surely, that cannot be real? Would she not be feeling the effects immediately?!
Off the scale


llewop

3,295 posts

176 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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confucuis said:
Surely, that cannot be real? Would she not be feeling the effects immediately?!
Not really, the dose rates she mentioned were not really scary, so wouldn’t cause immediate effects. It seemed very localised, which was why she was faffing about to get the particle. I think the highest dose rate she called out was a couple of millisieverts per hour.

If that was more uniform, it would be about the same dose in an hour as most of us get in a year. But with it being a hot particle more likely, if she handled it a lot, would be some affect on her hand(s), distance is the key, very high levels in close, not so much of an issue a metre away.

To get immediate effects you are talking much higher levels, orders of magnitude higher. Doesn’t stop it being dim and avoidable.