The Apprentice 2019

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Second Best

6,403 posts

181 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Last Visit said:
JonnyJustice said:
Tom Allen - makes ‘You’re Fired’ unwatchable.

Such an annoying presenter.
Agreed. He's most irritating.
yes I've noticed similar comments on several other sites. Any idea how much he's impacted viewing figures?

DSLiverpool

14,729 posts

202 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Fastpedeller said:
And she's complaining the Racism accusations have made her depressed! - shouldn't have made racist remarks then cry
She also called Lubna a “wet wipe” which I will now use extensively.

wjwren

4,484 posts

135 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Whats with all the sad music and stories about families? This is a job interview not Cilla Black.
I guess lottie wants to do a Katie Hopkins. She can probably make more money going down that route than doing a business with Sugar.

Bluedot

3,581 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
thegreenhell said:
Doesn't Sugartits already have a recruitment business with a previous winner?
Yes, Ricky Martin. His business was doing what he already knew (scientific recruitment) and had the contacts and database to grow not dreaming of big money head hunting fees for directors.
There was another recruitment business winner a few years back as well (I think it was where both finalists won?).
The guy running it was pretty bad and his supposed recruitment business he was running got torn to shreds in the interviews but Sugar still invested.
No idea how its doing now.
Ricky's done very well for himself though.

Sparky137

869 posts

181 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I felt that they went quite lightly with Lottie during the interviews compared to the others. Maybe it was because the complete lack of figures had immediately shown her the exit so it wasn't worth grilling her any further.

The presentation of her plan without any figures showed her up for what she really was, little more than a child playing in an adults world.

No doubt the business plans are examined before any candidate is invited to appear on the show. In which case Lotties glaring omission should have been apparent from the outset and she should have been rejected there and then. It highlights poor screening of plans by the shows researchers.

It's scary that these people were considered the best out of the (probable) many thousands of applicants they must have had and doesn't bode well for the future of British business.

I would love to have seen how Biff's proposal would have stacked up and how he would have handles the interviews.

davek_964

8,804 posts

175 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Sparky137 said:
It's scary that these people were considered the best out of the (probable) many thousands of applicants they must have had and doesn't bode well for the future of British business.
I'm guessing that at least half of them were the "best for a TV show" rather than the best for business.

I was really looking forward to the interview show, but didn't really find it half as entertaining as I expected. I think they all got off fairly lightly.

I will miss Pamela though - lovely looking lady.

Langweilig

4,324 posts

211 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Zetec-S

5,861 posts

93 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Second Best said:
Last Visit said:
JonnyJustice said:
Tom Allen - makes ‘You’re Fired’ unwatchable.

Such an annoying presenter.
Agreed. He's most irritating.
yes I've noticed similar comments on several other sites. Any idea how much he's impacted viewing figures?
At least 2 less than last year. We’ve stopped watching You’re Fired...

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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kev1974 said:
Think the Beauty Products woman sent her application to the wrong show, she meant to go on Dragons Den?
She already has been, I think.

Evercross

5,934 posts

64 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Sparky137 said:
I felt that they went quite lightly with Lottie during the interviews compared to the others. Maybe it was because the complete lack of figures had immediately shown her the exit so it wasn't worth grilling her any further.

The presentation of her plan without any figures showed her up for what she really was, little more than a child playing in an adults world.

No doubt the business plans are examined before any candidate is invited to appear on the show. In which case Lotties glaring omission should have been apparent from the outset and she should have been rejected there and then. It highlights poor screening of plans by the shows researchers.
davek_964 said:
I'm guessing that at least half of them were the "best for a TV show" rather than the best for business.
Indeed, but it is for that reason that The Apprentice has jumped the shark for me. At least maintain the illusion that everyone is contender and don't reveal afterwards that one of the semi-finalists was a no-hoper from the beginning. Same as when it came out on X-Factor (before the studio audience format) that the contestants were pre-screened before going into the room with the judges, some intentionally being sent in because they were woeful and fodder for the judges to give them a roasting.

Lottie was a detestable person (as it has since transpired) and was there just to get the audience's hackles up.

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 12th December 12:11

FourWheelDrift

88,483 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Sparky137 said:
I would love to have seen how Biff's proposal would have stacked up and how he would have handles the interviews.
1. Buy pillows cheap from Paddy the Greek and Sunglasses Ron.
2. Sell pillows.
3. Bosh, profit.

Brave Fart

5,716 posts

111 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Lottie - included purely for her entertainment value, never a credible business plan. Lord Sugar was never going to invest in her.
Ditto Lewis - eye candy for the ladies, there for ratings I think. No hoper.
Pamela - she's just dishonest. She isn't an inventor, nowhere close, which is why there are identical rival products.
Carina - OK business but is it possible to scale it up in a very crowded sector? He'll have ignored her 2000 outlets nonsense but could they replicate her formula in, say, 50 towns inside two years? Perhaps.
Scarlett - he'd be investing in the person, not her business. He'd link her up with Ricky Martin, as a "executive selection" part of the existing business. Low capital needed, existing infrastructure, high margins, see how she goes.



FunkyNige

8,880 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Brave Fart said:
Carina - OK business but is it possible to scale it up in a very crowded sector? He'll have ignored her 2000 outlets nonsense but could they replicate her formula in, say, 50 towns inside two years? Perhaps.
To be fair on Carina she really didn't want to put a number on how many outlets she was going to have and clearly didn't have a figure in mind, I think the interviewer guy asked her several times before she plucked the range 2000 to 5000 out of the air.

Doofus

25,777 posts

173 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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FunkyNige said:
Brave Fart said:
Carina - OK business but is it possible to scale it up in a very crowded sector? He'll have ignored her 2000 outlets nonsense but could they replicate her formula in, say, 50 towns inside two years? Perhaps.
To be fair on Carina she really didn't want to put a number on how many outlets she was going to have and clearly didn't have a figure in mind, I think the interviewer guy asked her several times before she plucked the range 2000 to 5000 out of the air.
She said she wanted to compete with Greggs but clearly had no clue as to how, many outlets they had.

The people who buy jumbo sausage rolls and steak bakes are not going to want avodcado and walnut on spelt.

Se7enheaven

1,711 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Do people still really believe that this show is about business and investment ? It’s just a bunch of nobodies with zero talent picked to be a talking point and line Sugars pockets. A business plan with no figures would never have made it through the application process initially.

smithyithy

7,220 posts

118 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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^ Have to agree, it's not even slightly believable this year is it...

BTEC business 'plans', Love Island contestants, clear fixing / manipulation of the tasks throughout, biased / drama-driven editing, ITV-level 'soppy music during emotional subject' segments..

Frank7

6,619 posts

87 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Evangelion said:
Anybody noticed the continuity went haywire tonight? Pamela got fired in a pink dress, wore a blue one to walk to the taxi, and had changed into a red one by the time she was sat in it.
I mentioned this to my wife, as she sat down to watch it, after recording it the night before.
She called me in from the kitchen, where I was reading a paper, as “Apprentice” doesn’t interest me.
She’d paused the TV, then she wound it back, and pressed play.
Pamela was wearing pink when fired, she had a full length stone coloured coat on as she walked out, and I saw no glimpse of blue under it, she still had it on in the taxi, but the pink hem of her dress was just visible.

Bluedot

3,581 posts

107 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I imagine the business plans are just rushed ideas by the contestants knowing the chances of getting picked for the show and making it to the final are probably 0.00001%.
And the chances of them getting £250k from any other sources to fund these plans are probably also 0.00001%
I think for a lot of the contestants these are just vague ideas in the hope of getting their mugs on the telly and not really worth putting that much thought and effort into. I bet plenty of them kick themselves though when they get to that stage, I mean Lewis was clearly quite liked and Sugar sounded as if he would have been interested if he'd presented a plan that used his digital marketing experience.


Tankrizzo

7,258 posts

193 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Brave Fart said:
Scarlett - he'd be investing in the person, not her business. He'd link her up with Ricky Martin, as a "executive selection" part of the existing business. Low capital needed, existing infrastructure, high margins, see how she goes.


Problem I have is that I know a few recruitment agents and they spend their career bigging themselves up - which to be fair is how their industry works and how they make their money. But I would take any of their claims with a pinch of salt.

200Plus Club

10,719 posts

278 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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smithyithy said:
^ Have to agree, it's not even slightly believable this year is it...

BTEC business 'plans', Love Island contestants, clear fixing / manipulation of the tasks throughout, biased / drama-driven editing, ITV-level 'soppy music during emotional subject' segments..
Looking forward to next year's light entertainment Apprentice already! :-)