Netflix - What gems have you found? (NO SPOILERS) (Vol. 2)
Netflix - What gems have you found? (NO SPOILERS) (Vol. 2)
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redrabbit

2,012 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th March
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G Thang said:
To be honest that was just first impressions as I found the subjects unbearable and switched off after 10 minutes. Maybe i should give it another go?
It's unbearable mainly because the subjects are so dim, predictable and boring. I generally like Theroux's stuff but the target here is too big to miss, like shooting fish in a hot tub. You'd have to have been living under a rock for the last few years not to have seen and formed an opinion on these characters. 6/10

suffolk009

7,399 posts

189 months

Friday 13th March
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redrabbit said:
G Thang said:
To be honest that was just first impressions as I found the subjects unbearable and switched off after 10 minutes. Maybe i should give it another go?
It's unbearable mainly because the subjects are so dim, predictable and boring. I generally like Theroux's stuff but the target here is too big to miss, like shooting fish in a hot tub. You'd have to have been living under a rock for the last few years not to have seen and formed an opinion on these characters. 6/10
It seems I've been under a rock.

I've obviously heard of Tate, but none of these other individuals. I had to go and read some reviews to even understand who Harrison is. I found a truly worrying statistics buried in one review; "31% of Gen Z men agree that a wife should always obey her husband, compared to 29% of Millennial men, 21% of Gen X men, and 13% of Boomer men"

I certainly have an opinion on the likes of Tate, but was happily unaware of any other individuals in this racket. I think I'd bet watch it and catch up.

Its Just Adz

17,979 posts

233 months

Friday 13th March
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quigonjay said:
Completely forgot about One Piece, never got round to it when it came out for one reason or another but noticed season 2 is just released so started season 1, half way through and absolutely fantastic
I hadn't realised 2 was out, thank you
I really enjoyed S1

TGCOTF-dewey

7,383 posts

79 months

Friday 13th March
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DodgyGeezer said:
TGCOTF-dewey said:
...and as war machine was mentioned earlier.

One of the worst films I've ever seen and I'm a sucker for anything sci-fi
Watch 95% og Mila Jovovitch's output
I have...aye...her and her husband have made some stinkers together, but war machine is worse...and I like Alan as an actor since Blue Mountain state.

It has the story and script quality of a sharknado, without the self deprecation.

Even an early generation of Chatgpt would have come up with less recycled plot and script.

Some bad films are so bad they become entertaining, e.g The Core. War Machine can't even claim that. As said above, it's best feature is <2hrs run time.

suffolk009

7,399 posts

189 months

Friday 13th March
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TGCOTF-dewey said:
DodgyGeezer said:
TGCOTF-dewey said:
...and as war machine was mentioned earlier.

One of the worst films I've ever seen and I'm a sucker for anything sci-fi
Watch 95% og Mila Jovovitch's output
I have...aye...her and her husband have made some stinkers together, but war machine is worse...and I like Alan as an actor since Blue Mountain state.

It has the story and script quality of a sharknado, without the self deprecation.

Even an early generation of Chatgpt would have come up with less recycled plot and script.

Some bad films are so bad they become entertaining, e.g The Core. War Machine can't even claim that. As said above, it's best feature is <2hrs run time.
Who'd have thought it. Chat GPT can actually write a better script...

Me: write 100 word film synopsis of army ranger mechanic battles an alien in the woods

Chat GPT: Under the hush of pines, a seasoned Army Ranger and vehicle mechanic named Calder discovers a damaged alien craft buried in the mud. He tows it to the isolation of his camp, hoping to salvage parts for artillery tests. But the craft awakens, unleashing a predator that can mimic sounds and blend with shadows. Calder improvises weapons from spare parts, using his craft as camouflage and trap. As night closes, the ranger fights not just for survival but for the lives of his crew and a land still echoing with distant battles. Courage, cunning, and metal meet in the woods.

Clockwork Cupcake

79,482 posts

296 months

Friday 13th March
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suffolk009 said:
Who'd have thought it. Chat GPT can actually write a better script...

Me: write 100 word film synopsis of army ranger mechanic battles an alien in the woods

Chat GPT: Under the hush of pines, a seasoned Army Ranger and vehicle mechanic named Calder discovers a damaged alien craft buried in the mud. He tows it to the isolation of his camp, hoping to salvage parts for artillery tests. But the craft awakens, unleashing a predator that can mimic sounds and blend with shadows. Calder improvises weapons from spare parts, using his craft as camouflage and trap. As night closes, the ranger fights not just for survival but for the lives of his crew and a land still echoing with distant battles. Courage, cunning, and metal meet in the woods.
Sounds super-easy; barely an inconvenience. wink

G Thang

1,435 posts

52 months

Friday 13th March
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
suffolk009 said:
Who'd have thought it. Chat GPT can actually write a better script...

Me: write 100 word film synopsis of army ranger mechanic battles an alien in the woods

Chat GPT: Under the hush of pines, a seasoned Army Ranger and vehicle mechanic named Calder discovers a damaged alien craft buried in the mud. He tows it to the isolation of his camp, hoping to salvage parts for artillery tests. But the craft awakens, unleashing a predator that can mimic sounds and blend with shadows. Calder improvises weapons from spare parts, using his craft as camouflage and trap. As night closes, the ranger fights not just for survival but for the lives of his crew and a land still echoing with distant battles. Courage, cunning, and metal meet in the woods.
Sounds super-easy; barely an inconvenience. wink
To be fair, that does sound like it could be a better film.

wombleh

2,315 posts

146 months

Friday 13th March
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Started watching Manosphere last night, as with most of the Theroux series am finding it an interesting view of a world that I don't otherwise encounter..

As a parent of a boy heading towards teenage years, who is the target of such things, then good to have that awareness. Think ours has enough strong and successful women in his life that the holes in it will be obvious, but probably a topic for another thread.

p1stonhead

29,255 posts

191 months

Friday 13th March
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wombleh said:
Started watching Manosphere last night, as with most of the Theroux series am finding it an interesting view of a world that I don't otherwise encounter..

As a parent of a boy heading towards teenage years, who is the target of such things, then good to have that awareness. Think ours has enough strong and successful women in his life that the holes in it will be obvious, but probably a topic for another thread.
I think it’s clear in Theroux’s conclusion that many or most of the boys pedalling this stuff, or being taken in by this stuff are likely from troubled backgrounds in terms of family.

If you have a solid foundation at home, the father has respect for women including showing it to his wife etc like I’m sure we all do and teach is right, it’s unlikely for our offspring to fall into it as easily.

Not impossible, but much harder id say.

Also keeping kids off social media as long as possible. Mine won’t be going near the stuff (on their own devices or at home - I can’t police their peers) until I decide they might be ready - which may be when they’re nearly adults at this rate.

Clockwork Cupcake

79,482 posts

296 months

Friday 13th March
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p1stonhead said:
Also keeping kids off social media as long as possible. Mine won t be going near the stuff (on their own devices or at home - I can t police their peers) until I decide they might be ready - which may be when they re nearly adults at this rate.
Off topic, but a very difficult subject. I remember being at school with a kid whose parents didn't let them watch television, and they knew nothing of any pop culture and were unable to engage in normal conversation with their peers over last night's episode of The Clangers or Rhubarb & Custard or whatever, and I imagine they felt very left out as a result. silly



Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Friday 13th March 12:37

suffolk009

7,399 posts

189 months

Friday 13th March
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G Thang said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
suffolk009 said:
Who'd have thought it. Chat GPT can actually write a better script...

Me: write 100 word film synopsis of army ranger mechanic battles an alien in the woods

Chat GPT: Under the hush of pines, a seasoned Army Ranger and vehicle mechanic named Calder discovers a damaged alien craft buried in the mud. He tows it to the isolation of his camp, hoping to salvage parts for artillery tests. But the craft awakens, unleashing a predator that can mimic sounds and blend with shadows. Calder improvises weapons from spare parts, using his craft as camouflage and trap. As night closes, the ranger fights not just for survival but for the lives of his crew and a land still echoing with distant battles. Courage, cunning, and metal meet in the woods.
Sounds super-easy; barely an inconvenience. wink
To be fair, that does sound like it could be a better film.
I'll send it on to my agent.

(Can anyone recommend an agent?)

suffolk009

7,399 posts

189 months

Friday 13th March
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p1stonhead said:
wombleh said:
Started watching Manosphere last night, as with most of the Theroux series am finding it an interesting view of a world that I don't otherwise encounter..

As a parent of a boy heading towards teenage years, who is the target of such things, then good to have that awareness. Think ours has enough strong and successful women in his life that the holes in it will be obvious, but probably a topic for another thread.
I think it s clear in Theroux s conclusion that many or most of the boys pedalling this stuff, or being taken in by this stuff are likely from troubled backgrounds in terms of family.

If you have a solid foundation at home, the father has respect for women including showing it to his wife etc like I m sure we all do and teach is right, it s unlikely for our offspring to fall into it as easily.

Not impossible, but much harder id say.

Also keeping kids off social media as long as possible. Mine won t be going near the stuff (on their own devices or at home - I can t police their peers) until I decide they might be ready - which may be when they re nearly adults at this rate.
FWIW, A policewoman who deals with teenagers and social media once told me banning children from SM can be the worse thing to do. "If they want to they'll find a way and then you'll know nothing about it" she said, (or words to that effect).

JoshSm

3,761 posts

61 months

Friday 13th March
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G Thang said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
suffolk009 said:
Who'd have thought it. Chat GPT can actually write a better script...

Me: write 100 word film synopsis of army ranger mechanic battles an alien in the woods

Chat GPT: Under the hush of pines, a seasoned Army Ranger and vehicle mechanic named Calder discovers a damaged alien craft buried in the mud. He tows it to the isolation of his camp, hoping to salvage parts for artillery tests. But the craft awakens, unleashing a predator that can mimic sounds and blend with shadows. Calder improvises weapons from spare parts, using his craft as camouflage and trap. As night closes, the ranger fights not just for survival but for the lives of his crew and a land still echoing with distant battles. Courage, cunning, and metal meet in the woods.
Sounds super-easy; barely an inconvenience. wink
To be fair, that does sound like it could be a better film.
Funny to see it trip over the same issue as War Machine - given a spec that includes 'alien' and 'woods' it regurgitated something that's at least 50% ripped from Predator.

Thing is War Machine is competently made, it's just the story that's weak & generic. Better writing could have made it really good - maybe they need to try Claude or Gemini for any sequel?

kevinon

2,646 posts

84 months

Friday 13th March
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suffolk009 said:
redrabbit said:
G Thang said:
To be honest that was just first impressions as I found the subjects unbearable and switched off after 10 minutes. Maybe i should give it another go?
It's unbearable mainly because the subjects are so dim, predictable and boring. I generally like Theroux's stuff but the target here is too big to miss, like shooting fish in a hot tub. You'd have to have been living under a rock for the last few years not to have seen and formed an opinion on these characters. 6/10
It seems I've been under a rock.

I've obviously heard of Tate, but none of these other individuals. I had to go and read some reviews to even understand who Harrison is. I found a truly worrying statistics buried in one review; "31% of Gen Z men agree that a wife should always obey her husband, compared to 29% of Millennial men, 21% of Gen X men, and 13% of Boomer men"

I certainly have an opinion on the likes of Tate, but was happily unaware of any other individuals in this racket. I think I'd bet watch it and catch up.
Theroux's doc on manosphere was already in my mental list. PH folk - you've definitely moved it up the list.

I've heard it said that the male influencers are similar to the 'softer' female ones, in that they have to make a very contrived, boring life look like nirvana.

Their punters live vicariously -and they become more needy, so their influencer has to keep ratcheting up the 'fix'.

IMHO, addiction is at the heart of this st. Whether it's cultish beauty routines (girls mainly) or cultish incel / get rich quick stuff (mainly boys).

So glad I lived a normal life free, from this highly leveraged, abundant crock of addictive st. (Although I did lose my. head a bit over football stickers !).




p1stonhead

29,255 posts

191 months

Friday 13th March
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suffolk009 said:
p1stonhead said:
wombleh said:
Started watching Manosphere last night, as with most of the Theroux series am finding it an interesting view of a world that I don't otherwise encounter..

As a parent of a boy heading towards teenage years, who is the target of such things, then good to have that awareness. Think ours has enough strong and successful women in his life that the holes in it will be obvious, but probably a topic for another thread.
I think it s clear in Theroux s conclusion that many or most of the boys pedalling this stuff, or being taken in by this stuff are likely from troubled backgrounds in terms of family.

If you have a solid foundation at home, the father has respect for women including showing it to his wife etc like I m sure we all do and teach is right, it s unlikely for our offspring to fall into it as easily.

Not impossible, but much harder id say.

Also keeping kids off social media as long as possible. Mine won t be going near the stuff (on their own devices or at home - I can t police their peers) until I decide they might be ready - which may be when they re nearly adults at this rate.
FWIW, A policewoman who deals with teenagers and social media once told me banning children from SM can be the worse thing to do. "If they want to they'll find a way and then you'll know nothing about it" she said, (or words to that effect).
It s a worry whatever way things will go.

But I know that kids were not damaged in the way modern social media damages kids, before it existed, so I ll definitely lean towards that.

There are numerous studies and now books showing how mental health issues absolutely exploded in young people with the widespread introduction of the smart phone around 2010. It’s staggering.

It’s also not a coincidence that this Manosphere stuff seems to be absolutely rife in the first generation who grew up with access to unlimited social media and porn.

My position is s a very rapidly growing movement for anyone with young kids. A lot of families we know are very very strict when it comes to devices.

I have a few more years to prepare thankfully.

GVK

1,071 posts

266 months

Friday 13th March
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Phooey said:
TGCOTF-dewey said:
Bubbas Grill said:
732NM said:
I Swear was added today, best film of the year.
Fantastic film only let down very slightly by Maxine Peake's confused Scottish accent.

The scene in the back-seat of the car with the younger girl is one of the funniest and saddest I've seen.

10


Edited by Bubbas Grill on Thursday 12th March 08:30
Agree. My wife and I watched it last night.

It was superb...and I cried through most of it. Both from the perspective of how you'd support your own child if they started with tourettes, and then with the empathy of what he had to put up with as an adult. And still is.

Full on emotional rollercoaster of a film and superbly acted.

Ten fking s out of ten.
We watched it last night too. fking brilliant from start to finish. 11 spunky teas out of 10.
Watched it last night I was intially thinking before watching that it would be too long at 2 hours but no, it was great from start to finish, from watching the documentaries on TV over the years it was good how they got some of the parts true to life. "Filthy fags!!

C5_Steve

7,758 posts

127 months

Friday 13th March
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p1stonhead said:
suffolk009 said:
p1stonhead said:
wombleh said:
Started watching Manosphere last night, as with most of the Theroux series am finding it an interesting view of a world that I don't otherwise encounter..

As a parent of a boy heading towards teenage years, who is the target of such things, then good to have that awareness. Think ours has enough strong and successful women in his life that the holes in it will be obvious, but probably a topic for another thread.
I think it s clear in Theroux s conclusion that many or most of the boys pedalling this stuff, or being taken in by this stuff are likely from troubled backgrounds in terms of family.

If you have a solid foundation at home, the father has respect for women including showing it to his wife etc like I m sure we all do and teach is right, it s unlikely for our offspring to fall into it as easily.

Not impossible, but much harder id say.

Also keeping kids off social media as long as possible. Mine won t be going near the stuff (on their own devices or at home - I can t police their peers) until I decide they might be ready - which may be when they re nearly adults at this rate.
FWIW, A policewoman who deals with teenagers and social media once told me banning children from SM can be the worse thing to do. "If they want to they'll find a way and then you'll know nothing about it" she said, (or words to that effect).
It s a worry whatever way things will go.

But I know that kids were not damaged in the way modern social media damages kids, before it existed, so I ll definitely lean towards that.

There are numerous studies and now books showing how mental health issues absolutely exploded in young people with the widespread introduction of the smart phone around 2010. It s staggering.

It s also not a coincidence that this Manosphere stuff seems to be absolutely rife in the first generation who grew up with access to unlimited social media and porn.

My position is s a very rapidly growing movement for anyone with young kids. A lot of families we know are very very strict when it comes to devices.

I have a few more years to prepare thankfully.
Watched it last night, usual well made stuff from Theroux. Biggest take aways were how even though all those involved clearly tried to manage their image, often by just not appearing, the masks slipped very quickly. HS is interesting in that he thinks he's beating the system by openly contradicting himself as if that's an excuse, but he folded under the lightest or challenge from Louis. Also, as soon as he was alone with his mum he switched. They all scream that they're compensating for deficiency.

EK9_CTR

708 posts

158 months

Friday 13th March
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I enjoyed War Machine. Proper gritty masculine action film. The machine thing reminded me of the final boss in Metal Gear Solid V (Phantom Pain). Off to buy another G-Shock I didn't need....

Clockwork Cupcake

79,482 posts

296 months

Friday 13th March
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EK9_CTR said:
I enjoyed War Machine. Proper gritty masculine action film. The machine thing reminded me of the final boss in Metal Gear Solid V (Phantom Pain). Off to buy another G-Shock I didn't need....
Of all the many things I have heard said about War Machine here, in the general film thread, and elsewhere, "gritty" is not one I have heard before.

732NM

11,863 posts

39 months

Friday 13th March
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These influencer bros are just children given a crappy product to sell on commission, they always burn out and come crashing down.

It was hilarious how deluded they were about the women they think they control, a few direct questions with the women there and the front collapsed.

Revolting people living a revolting life with zero long term stability, these are the characters that dump their supercar at Dubai airport and do a runner back to blighty when the scam collapses as the police would bang them up for unpaid debt if they don't get out fast enough. Bunch of dheads.