Just Where DO Old Films Go To Die?
Discussion
...... Freeview Channel 81 "TALKING PICTURES TV"
I had a conversation, a while back, with a friend and we talked about "Just Where DO Old Films Go To Die?"
You know, the films we can all remember from our youth; not (necessarily) 'big' hits at the cinema, but the sort of films that ALWAYS seemed to be on tv and then disappeared seemingly forever.......
An example: Hannibal Brooks https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064403/
A prisoner of war working at a zoo gets the chance to escape from the Germans, so he does and he takes with him the elephant that he's been caring for. Together they head for the Swiss border and freedom. Dir Michael Winner - Stars Oliver Reed
I remember seeing it, as a 10 year old, on tv, back in the mid 70's. I enjoyed it (at the time). It then seemed to be on television just about every Sunday, so it must of been popular? But..... Have you ever seen or heard of it since?
I checked on Amazon and, for an 'old' film, it's expensive - an indication of a lack of popularity, I suppose.
Flicking through this weeks tv, in the Telegraph's Culture section and, on Channel 81 (Freeview) Talking Pictures TV, they are showing another couple of films that, like Hannibal Brooks were very popular as tv repeats years ago - but never seemed to make it as DVD releases and are (seemingly) never shown on regular tv today.
So, do these ring any bells?
Tuesday 9th Feb @ 6.55 Sewers of Gold (aka Dirty Money, aka The Great Riviera Bank Robbery) staring Ian McShane - a heist movie, based on actual events, involving (fascist) criminals tunnelling through sewers into a bank's vaults.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079238/
see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_%C3%89gouts_du_p...
Actual events: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Spaggiari
Or, how about
Wednesday 10th Feb @ 9pm Rough Cut Crime comedy starring Burt Reynolds and Lesley-Anne Down
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081439/
Anyone recall and other old movies that have seemingly 'disappeared' ?
I had a conversation, a while back, with a friend and we talked about "Just Where DO Old Films Go To Die?"
You know, the films we can all remember from our youth; not (necessarily) 'big' hits at the cinema, but the sort of films that ALWAYS seemed to be on tv and then disappeared seemingly forever.......
An example: Hannibal Brooks https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064403/
A prisoner of war working at a zoo gets the chance to escape from the Germans, so he does and he takes with him the elephant that he's been caring for. Together they head for the Swiss border and freedom. Dir Michael Winner - Stars Oliver Reed
I remember seeing it, as a 10 year old, on tv, back in the mid 70's. I enjoyed it (at the time). It then seemed to be on television just about every Sunday, so it must of been popular? But..... Have you ever seen or heard of it since?
I checked on Amazon and, for an 'old' film, it's expensive - an indication of a lack of popularity, I suppose.
Flicking through this weeks tv, in the Telegraph's Culture section and, on Channel 81 (Freeview) Talking Pictures TV, they are showing another couple of films that, like Hannibal Brooks were very popular as tv repeats years ago - but never seemed to make it as DVD releases and are (seemingly) never shown on regular tv today.
So, do these ring any bells?
Tuesday 9th Feb @ 6.55 Sewers of Gold (aka Dirty Money, aka The Great Riviera Bank Robbery) staring Ian McShane - a heist movie, based on actual events, involving (fascist) criminals tunnelling through sewers into a bank's vaults.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079238/
see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_%C3%89gouts_du_p...
Actual events: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Spaggiari
Or, how about
Wednesday 10th Feb @ 9pm Rough Cut Crime comedy starring Burt Reynolds and Lesley-Anne Down
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081439/
Anyone recall and other old movies that have seemingly 'disappeared' ?
vixen1700 said:
The Girl on a Motorcycle was a regular (and firm favourite) on telly late at night when I was a teenager, haven't seen it on Talking Pictures or anything for a while.
Probably hideously dated now though.
That was on talking pictures recently and yes, it was dated but in a good way. Probably hideously dated now though.
What about that other Burt Reynolds classic, Hooper? Along with Smokey & the Bandit and Cannonball Run, it was staple viewing when I was a kid, but haven't seen it or heard of it for many years, whereas the others are still regularly repeated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooper_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooper_(film)
The answer to the question posed in the title, is that old films got to die, or more correctly get a second lease of life is....
Watford, Hertfordshire.
And specifically in the front room and garden office of a family home, pictured below.
Noel Cronin and his daughter, Sarah Cronin-Stanley, at home in their Talking Pictures studio. Photograph: Neill Stanley / Talking Pictures TV
https://www.filmstories.co.uk/features/talking-pic...
link
Watford, Hertfordshire.
And specifically in the front room and garden office of a family home, pictured below.
Noel Cronin and his daughter, Sarah Cronin-Stanley, at home in their Talking Pictures studio. Photograph: Neill Stanley / Talking Pictures TV
https://www.filmstories.co.uk/features/talking-pic...
link
FiF,
Thanks for the links.
Great to see a tv channel run by genuine enthusiasts - I had rather assumed the eclectic selection was mostly 'out of copyright' films
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_in_the...
Thanks for the links.
Great to see a tv channel run by genuine enthusiasts - I had rather assumed the eclectic selection was mostly 'out of copyright' films
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_in_the...
A lot of them seem to end up on Samsung TV plus freeview channels as well. I saw the Philadelphia experiment on there the other day, not seen that on TV since the 90s.
There is also a channel that plays nothing but Laurel and Hardy, I suspect you could count the viewers on the fingers of one hand.
There is also a channel that plays nothing but Laurel and Hardy, I suspect you could count the viewers on the fingers of one hand.
Joey Deacon said:
A lot of them seem to end up on Samsung TV plus freeview channels as well. I saw the Philadelphia experiment on there the other day, not seen that on TV since the 90s.
There is also a channel that plays nothing but Laurel and Hardy, I suspect you could count the viewers on the fingers of one hand.
or not....There is also a channel that plays nothing but Laurel and Hardy, I suspect you could count the viewers on the fingers of one hand.
In the mid '80s BBC2, ITV and Channel 4 had a phase of showing some long forgotten (in some cases) cult classics late at night, one or two of which have never been shown on terrestrial TV since then, those that I remember watching at the time were....
Blow Up - David Hemmings, Venessa Redgrave, Sarah Miles, Peter Bowles and Jane Birkin
Morgan : A Suitable Case For Treatment - David Warner and Venessa Redgrave
Only When I Larf - Dickie Attenborough, David Hemmings and Alexandra Stewart
The Killing Of Sister George - Beryl Reid, Susannah York, Ronald Fraser and Coral Browne
Entertaining Mr.Sloane - Beryl Reid, Harry Andrews and Peter McEnery
X,Y & Z (also known as Zee & Co) - Michael Caine, Liz Taylor and Susannah York
Secret Ceremony - Liz Taylor and Mia Farrow
Kaleidascope - Warren Beatty, Susannah York and Clive Reville
Perfect Friday - Stanley Baker, David Warner and Ursula Andress
Goodbye Gemini - Michael Redgrave, Judy Geeson, Freddie Jones and Martin Potter
Satan's Slave - Martin Potter and Michael Gough
Privilege - Paul Jones and Jean Shrimpton
The Offence - Sean Connery, Trevor Howerd, Ian Bannen, Vivien Merchant and Peter Bowles
Up The Junction - Dennis Waterman, Suzy Kendall, Adriena Posta, Maurene Lipman and Michael Gotthard
Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Judy Geeson, Barry Evans, Denholm Elliot and Diane Keen
The Man Who Haunted Himself - Roger Moore, Anton Rogers, Hildegard Neil, Freddie Jones and Olga Georges Picot
Performance - James Fox, Mick Jagger and Anita Pallenberg
Villain - Richard Burton, Ian McShane, Nigel Davenport, Collin Welland, Joss Ackland, Donald Sinden, Del Henney and Tony Selby
Robbery - Stanley Baker, George Sewell, William Marlowe, Joanna Petit and James Booth
Accident - Stanley Baker, Dirk Bogarde, Harold Pinter, Delphine Seyrig, Michael York and Vivien Merchant
The Servant - James Fox, Wendy Craig, Dirk Bogarde and Sarah Miles
Two Lane Blacktop - James Taylor, Dennis Wilson and Warren Oates
It's only in recent years that some have been shown again regularly, Kaleidoscope being the exception and as far as I'm aware it's never been released on dvd. I'm glad to see some of them resurfacing on Talking pictures, despite having all but one of them on dvd
Blow Up - David Hemmings, Venessa Redgrave, Sarah Miles, Peter Bowles and Jane Birkin
Morgan : A Suitable Case For Treatment - David Warner and Venessa Redgrave
Only When I Larf - Dickie Attenborough, David Hemmings and Alexandra Stewart
The Killing Of Sister George - Beryl Reid, Susannah York, Ronald Fraser and Coral Browne
Entertaining Mr.Sloane - Beryl Reid, Harry Andrews and Peter McEnery
X,Y & Z (also known as Zee & Co) - Michael Caine, Liz Taylor and Susannah York
Secret Ceremony - Liz Taylor and Mia Farrow
Kaleidascope - Warren Beatty, Susannah York and Clive Reville
Perfect Friday - Stanley Baker, David Warner and Ursula Andress
Goodbye Gemini - Michael Redgrave, Judy Geeson, Freddie Jones and Martin Potter
Satan's Slave - Martin Potter and Michael Gough
Privilege - Paul Jones and Jean Shrimpton
The Offence - Sean Connery, Trevor Howerd, Ian Bannen, Vivien Merchant and Peter Bowles
Up The Junction - Dennis Waterman, Suzy Kendall, Adriena Posta, Maurene Lipman and Michael Gotthard
Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Judy Geeson, Barry Evans, Denholm Elliot and Diane Keen
The Man Who Haunted Himself - Roger Moore, Anton Rogers, Hildegard Neil, Freddie Jones and Olga Georges Picot
Performance - James Fox, Mick Jagger and Anita Pallenberg
Villain - Richard Burton, Ian McShane, Nigel Davenport, Collin Welland, Joss Ackland, Donald Sinden, Del Henney and Tony Selby
Robbery - Stanley Baker, George Sewell, William Marlowe, Joanna Petit and James Booth
Accident - Stanley Baker, Dirk Bogarde, Harold Pinter, Delphine Seyrig, Michael York and Vivien Merchant
The Servant - James Fox, Wendy Craig, Dirk Bogarde and Sarah Miles
Two Lane Blacktop - James Taylor, Dennis Wilson and Warren Oates
It's only in recent years that some have been shown again regularly, Kaleidoscope being the exception and as far as I'm aware it's never been released on dvd. I'm glad to see some of them resurfacing on Talking pictures, despite having all but one of them on dvd
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 8th February 16:23
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 8th February 16:24
alfaspecial said:
Anyone recall and other old movies that have seemingly 'disappeared' ?
Dogma.Personally owned by Harvey Weinstein. Kevin Smith (or indeed anyone else, including distributors who did have rights to it) is unable to get it back or do anything with it.
Hundreds of films have been lost in a similar fashion, particularly with the move to streaming as that requiries a new set of distribution rights to be agreed in many cases.
Edited by ch37 on Monday 8th February 16:56
TV schedule: https://talkingpicturestv.co.uk/schedule/
'Car' themes this week include Vespas (today) & Austins
Sat 13 Feb 21 12:00 Austin Golden Jubilee Its August 1972 and at Longbridge we follow the celebration of the Golden Jubilee with as many Austin's possible!
'Car' themes this week include Vespas (today) & Austins
Sat 13 Feb 21 12:00 Austin Golden Jubilee Its August 1972 and at Longbridge we follow the celebration of the Golden Jubilee with as many Austin's possible!
All of the Hammer House of Horror shows with Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee. Used to watch them with my mam on a Friday night in my teens.
The Will Hay movies, can’t recall the name of the film but the one where they were involved in a railway ghost train heist thing.....
And one that stands out, Forbidden Planet with Leslie Nielsen and Walter Pidgeon, love that show but have not seen it for ages.
The Will Hay movies, can’t recall the name of the film but the one where they were involved in a railway ghost train heist thing.....
And one that stands out, Forbidden Planet with Leslie Nielsen and Walter Pidgeon, love that show but have not seen it for ages.
I suspect films, like any asset, are subject to industry purchase and stuff, so, e.g. Walmart will buy up all Warner Bros films and just sit on them.
or the director or their production co. will take the decision not to put his/her films up for TV or cinema distribution.
Some of Hitchcock's best films due to legal wrangling were never seen for many years, Vertigo, Man Who Knew Too Much, Trouble With Harry.
Kubrick vetoed all showings of Clockwork Orange, not sure if that is still the case.
or the director or their production co. will take the decision not to put his/her films up for TV or cinema distribution.
Some of Hitchcock's best films due to legal wrangling were never seen for many years, Vertigo, Man Who Knew Too Much, Trouble With Harry.
Kubrick vetoed all showings of Clockwork Orange, not sure if that is still the case.
steveatesh said:
All of the Hammer House of Horror shows with Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee. Used to watch them with my mam on a Friday night in my teens.
The Will Hay movies, can’t recall the name of the film but the one where they were involved in a railway ghost train heist thing.....
And one that stands out, Forbidden Planet with Leslie Nielsen and Walter Pidgeon, love that show but have not seen it for ages.
Will Hay did 'Oh Mr Porter' while Arthur Askey starred in the famous 'Ghost Train', written by Arnold Ridley ( Godfrey in Dad's Army ). Both basically the same story and great fun.The Will Hay movies, can’t recall the name of the film but the one where they were involved in a railway ghost train heist thing.....
And one that stands out, Forbidden Planet with Leslie Nielsen and Walter Pidgeon, love that show but have not seen it for ages.
Whilst we’re on a broadly similar subject, although I’m now referring to TV shows as opposed to films, I’d love to see re-runs of
1) The Adventures of Neat & Tidy, (originally aired on C4, staring the beautiful Tina Tidy).
2), Dungeons & Dragons, the kids cartoon
3), a TV show that was on BBC in the early-mid 80’s about a female racing driver. All I can remember is that she was from up North and raced a Mini.
1) The Adventures of Neat & Tidy, (originally aired on C4, staring the beautiful Tina Tidy).
2), Dungeons & Dragons, the kids cartoon
3), a TV show that was on BBC in the early-mid 80’s about a female racing driver. All I can remember is that she was from up North and raced a Mini.
105.4 said:
Whilst we’re on a broadly similar subject, although I’m now referring to TV shows as opposed to films, I’d love to see re-runs of
3), a TV show that was on BBC in the early-mid 80’s about a female racing driver. All I can remember is that she was from up North and raced a Mini.
Driving Ambition 3), a TV show that was on BBC in the early-mid 80’s about a female racing driver. All I can remember is that she was from up North and raced a Mini.
Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff