Clarkson’s Farm

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SydneyBridge

8,500 posts

157 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
Had a drive to the cotswolds today - his shop is both a raging success for him and the object of hatred from the locals
Don't know why, he is selling lots of local produce, including cheese from Alex James

Doofus

25,732 posts

172 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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48k said:
Doofus said:
mick987 said:
Yes and it is a non farmer giving out to farmers telling them how to do their job. Some peoples egos are larger than their powerfully built behinds.
To be fair, that's what Clarkson did in the programme.
At no time in any of the episodes can I recall Clarkson telling other farmers how to do their job.
More than once Clarkson decided he knew a better way to till and then sow a field, and he fked up the tramlines in the process.

And I'd like some examples of my 'trolling' from Tyre Smoke.

Leon R

3,185 posts

95 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Doofus said:
48k said:
Doofus said:
mick987 said:
Yes and it is a non farmer giving out to farmers telling them how to do their job. Some peoples egos are larger than their powerfully built behinds.
To be fair, that's what Clarkson did in the programme.
At no time in any of the episodes can I recall Clarkson telling other farmers how to do their job.
More than once Clarkson decided he knew a better way to till and then sow a field, and he fked up the tramlines in the process.

And I'd like some examples of my 'trolling' from Tyre Smoke.
It is his farm though and he didn't tell anyone else how to do anything he just made a mess of doing it himself.

Doofus

25,732 posts

172 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Leon R said:
Doofus said:
48k said:
Doofus said:
mick987 said:
Yes and it is a non farmer giving out to farmers telling them how to do their job. Some peoples egos are larger than their powerfully built behinds.
To be fair, that's what Clarkson did in the programme.
At no time in any of the episodes can I recall Clarkson telling other farmers how to do their job.
More than once Clarkson decided he knew a better way to till and then sow a field, and he fked up the tramlines in the process.

And I'd like some examples of my 'trolling' from Tyre Smoke.
It is his farm though and he didn't tell anyone else how to do anything he just made a mess of doing it himself.
Figures of speech. smile He didn't listen to what Kaleb told him, and thought he knew better. If somebody is going to pick me up because "That's not telling farmers how to do their job" then this place is more mealy-mouthed than I thought. Im my opinion, and in this instance, the two things amount to the same thing.

Sway

26,070 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Doofus said:
Leon R said:
Doofus said:
48k said:
Doofus said:
mick987 said:
Yes and it is a non farmer giving out to farmers telling them how to do their job. Some peoples egos are larger than their powerfully built behinds.
To be fair, that's what Clarkson did in the programme.
At no time in any of the episodes can I recall Clarkson telling other farmers how to do their job.
More than once Clarkson decided he knew a better way to till and then sow a field, and he fked up the tramlines in the process.

And I'd like some examples of my 'trolling' from Tyre Smoke.
It is his farm though and he didn't tell anyone else how to do anything he just made a mess of doing it himself.
Figures of speech. smile He didn't listen to what Kaleb told him, and thought he knew better. If somebody is going to pick me up because "That's not telling farmers how to do their job" then this place is more mealy-mouthed than I thought. Im my opinion, and in this instance, the two things amount to the same thing.
And yet, it's an entirely brilliant way of educating the viewers.

I live in a rural area, and have never understood the tramlines. I do now - in a way I'll never forget.

You really think he didn't know exactly what he was doing?

zygalski

7,759 posts

144 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Half way through this. The missus & I are thoroughly enjoying it. Way better than TGT.

595Heaven

2,387 posts

77 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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SydneyBridge said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Had a drive to the cotswolds today - his shop is both a raging success for him and the object of hatred from the locals
Don't know why, he is selling lots of local produce, including cheese from Alex James
I drove past Diddly Squat Farm today and the locals would be right to be annoyed - must have been close to a 100 cars parked along the lane making it very difficult to get through.

FiF

43,965 posts

250 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Other farmers told Clarkson how to do Clarkson's job. Now he didn't do it that way because either he hadn't understood what he was being told and why it was important, e.g. the settings on the drilling machine to establish the tramline spacing and exactly why the consequences of doing it like that was important to the later spraying operations, or they just didn't explain it properly, or possibly they did explain it but we were not shown it.

Maybe it was just JC deciding to do something different for the potential comedy value or increase interest in the programme or just because he fancied a go at livestock farming. For example, the sheep malarkey, I can't believe that nobody suggested it wasn't a good idea to save simply mowing the wildflower meadows. I can't recall any comments from Charlie at the beginning of the sheep drama, at that stage still early daysfor Kaleb.

We've all been in situations where the gaffer has announced "Right this is the plan" and you just know it will not go well. Depends on the dynamics of the outfit and relationships what you say or even in some cases if you say anything at all.

Doofus

25,732 posts

172 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Sway said:
You really think he didn't know exactly what he was doing?
Of course not. I've said it here, or in the other thread, that he doesn't need to run a profitable farm, so he can arse about. It may make entertaining telly, but it's not a treatise on farming and the plight of farmers.

FiF

43,965 posts

250 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Sway said:
And yet, it's an entirely brilliant way of educating the viewers.

I live in a rural area, and have never understood the tramlines. I do now - in a way I'll never forget.

You really think he didn't know exactly what he was doing?
It's educating viewers but in a different way to, for example, Harry Metcalfe. Harry's farm is much more matter of fact and more dry, gets the message home just the same.

Other stuff I learnt, had never, for example, considered the issues of declaration of area under cultivation to a particular crop, to several decimal places, especially when there are several crops in a single field. Jesus, thought my paperwork was a pita.

paralla

3,528 posts

134 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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We are staying in Burford for a long weekend, this morning I saw Kaleb driving down the high street in his Claas tractor.

How u doing

26,959 posts

182 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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paralla said:
We are staying in Burford for a long weekend, this morning I saw Kaleb driving down the high street in his Claas tractor.
Not in his usual Prius daily then?

DodgyGeezer

40,156 posts

189 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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595Heaven said:
SydneyBridge said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Had a drive to the cotswolds today - his shop is both a raging success for him and the object of hatred from the locals
Don't know why, he is selling lots of local produce, including cheese from Alex James
I drove past Diddly Squat Farm today and the locals would be right to be annoyed - must have been close to a 100 cars parked along the lane making it very difficult to get through.
TBF 'hatred' is (probably) pushing it. But I was gobsmacked at the traffic and inconsiderate parking, if I was local I think I'd be a little miffed.

I reversed a little to let someone come up and a pissed off local (I assume) in a scabby Passat shot past me, the car behind me and between me and the car I was letting up... didn't seem like a lot (any hehe ) of margin for error. Give that up as a bad idea so went to Chipping Norton for a brunch (and saw a Caleb tractor rumble past)

614-HSO

1,279 posts

47 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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There is a write up in The Times today about the farm and Jezza says in it; (photo of the part from the paper, I assume this little bit is ok to post, under fair use?).



Regarding Jezza telling other farmers what to do, what are you on about, he did nothing of the sort, the bit about not doing a three point turn to make it faster, surely this is plausible if the tractor is satellite controlled (like Harry's combine) and this is linked to the seeding machine on the back, this must surely be possible, ok Jezza was trying to do it free-hand and failed, but I think there is some method in his madness.

I would think the show is not that expensive to make as Jezza has the farm and is just being filmed doing what he would be doing anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a spin-off where he goes to New Zealand to see how they can farm sheep and ship the meat over to the UK cheaper than the UK farmers can do and to Brazil where they chop down the rain-forest to raise cattle.

Also I found this, this morning hehe

RipTrip1

2,013 posts

107 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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All that hard work to make £140 profit for the entire year. I bet around 50% of farmers would be better off selling all their assets and finding a new career.

614-HSO

1,279 posts

47 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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colin_p said:
Loved it.

Especially like the final "Goodfellas" episode complete with the Harry Nilsson soundtrack.
Yes, I noticed that as well,
614-HSO said:
The Goodfella's tribute at the start of episode 8, inspired.

Sway

26,070 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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RipTrip1 said:
All that hard work to make £140 profit for the entire year. I bet around 50% of farmers would be better off selling all their assets and finding a new career.
It wasn't.

They took off the full costs of the capital equipment. Hadn't included subsidies, etc.

Plus, worst year for farming in over 50 years.

Usual "expected" income would be into six figures, and probably was that year if you took those other bits into account.

MikeDB1

235 posts

73 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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General Price said:
MikeDB1 said:
If you able to pull it up by hand you've let it go far too far. Should be dealt with when it's just a rosette on the ground. If it gets to flowering stage then it should be cropped and burnt, but otherwise can be left to rot on the land as grazing animals won't touch it.
Sheep love young ragwort.confused
Nope. Lambs will eat ragwort but ewes just graze around it.

DaveGrohl

890 posts

96 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Sway said:
RipTrip1 said:
All that hard work to make £140 profit for the entire year. I bet around 50% of farmers would be better off selling all their assets and finding a new career.
It wasn't.

They took off the full costs of the capital equipment. Hadn't included subsidies, etc.

Plus, worst year for farming in over 50 years.

Usual "expected" income would be into six figures, and probably was that year if you took those other bits into account.
I haven't seen that ep yet but it was covered earlier in the thread. Capital costs weren't included as they aren't normally anyway. Also "income" doesn't equal profit.

FiF

43,965 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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DaveGrohl said:
Sway said:
RipTrip1 said:
All that hard work to make £140 profit for the entire year. I bet around 50% of farmers would be better off selling all their assets and finding a new career.
It wasn't.

They took off the full costs of the capital equipment. Hadn't included subsidies, etc.

Plus, worst year for farming in over 50 years.

Usual "expected" income would be into six figures, and probably was that year if you took those other bits into account.
I haven't seen that ep yet but it was covered earlier in the thread. Capital costs weren't included as they aren't normally anyway. Also "income" doesn't equal profit.
I would have to rewatch the episodes but I'm not sure they applied the full capital costs. Iirc he spent 80odd k at the farm equipment sale having already spent 50(?) on that bloody Lambo. Then there were plenty of other capital costs e.g. farm shop building and plenty of other things that could count as capital. Though in the final summing up Charlie talked about 60 odd thousand as capital expenses and another 60odd k from operating costs. As said needs a rewatch as all from memory.

Essentially they were trying to make the point that without the mooted 82k subsidy a lot of effort for not much. Although worst year for farming is a perfectly valid point.