Clarkson’s Farm

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eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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RizzoTheRat said:
ralphrj said:
C Lee Farquar said:
Lily the Pink said:
Cliffe60 said:
Seriously though (and correct me if I misheard ), but I found it worrying they spend £14k on seeds, but £35k on fertiliser and £15k on pesticides.
I'm interested to know why you find that worrying - is it the total amount, or the ratios ?
IIRC he has 1000 acres, there can't be much in crop production if those inputs are right, about 50% would be my guess.
He mentioned that around 300 acres was pasture. Add the woodland as well and it may well only be around 50% used for arable production.
It was mentioned in the first episode how much was being planted with what, I think it was about 500-600 acres arable.
I seem to recall him saying after he ploughed the first field of 10 acres that it took him a whole day, and he only has something like 3 weeks to do the other 450 acres.

Condi

17,188 posts

171 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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Cliffe60 said:
The fact that far more is spent on fertiliser and pesticides than the seeds. I’ve no idea if the actual amounts are right. I buy seeds in £1.99 packets!
How many packets do you need to fill a 1t bag, and then how many 1t bags do you use? Are they coated in the fungicides, growth promoters etc which his are? Do you fertilise your garden 3 times a year? Do you spray it for pests, weeds, moulds etc?

Farming is a high input business, it takes a lot to grow the very high yielding crops we grow in the UK.


You could just throw some seed in the ground, leave it for most of the year, and see what you harvest, but at a guess you might get 20-30% of what a properly managed crop would achieve.

Doofus

25,810 posts

173 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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Condi said:
How many packets do you need to fill a 1t bag, and then how many 1t bags do you use? Are they coated in the fungicides, growth promoters etc which his are? Do you fertilise your garden 3 times a year? Do you spray it for pests, weeds, moulds etc?
I thought pre-coated seeds had been banned?

Sway

26,275 posts

194 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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Doofus said:
Condi said:
How many packets do you need to fill a 1t bag, and then how many 1t bags do you use? Are they coated in the fungicides, growth promoters etc which his are? Do you fertilise your garden 3 times a year? Do you spray it for pests, weeds, moulds etc?
I thought pre-coated seeds had been banned?
IIRC only for certain kinds of pesticides.

Condi

17,188 posts

171 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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Doofus said:
I thought pre-coated seeds had been banned?
No, neonicictioniods (forget how you spell it), or neonic's for short have been banned, but that is only 1 pesticide. Seeds are still coated in a heap of other things from fungicides to growth promotors to micro and essential nutrients.

Doofus

25,810 posts

173 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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K thx. smile

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

170 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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Cliffe60 said:
The fact that far more is spent on fertiliser and pesticides than the seeds. I’ve no idea if the actual amounts are right. I buy seeds in £1.99 packets!
Partly depends on how much is permanent ley I guess, which presumably requires minimal overseeding but plenty of fert (though preferably natural fert).

Sway

26,275 posts

194 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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Cross posting, but I watched Harry's Farm on the barley harvest.

Damned interesting, as I walk the dog through a barley field...

My local farmer seems to have written it off - there's loads of tall 'broom' type weeds sticking up higher than the barley (especially in the middle of the field), and it's so bent over under it's own weight the heads are all on the floor.

Between Mssrs. Metcalfe and Clarkson, I've noticed things I would never have consciously recognised before. I like that.

FiF

44,072 posts

251 months

Friday 30th July 2021
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Sway said:
Doofus said:
Condi said:
How many packets do you need to fill a 1t bag, and then how many 1t bags do you use? Are they coated in the fungicides, growth promoters etc which his are? Do you fertilise your garden 3 times a year? Do you spray it for pests, weeds, moulds etc?
I thought pre-coated seeds had been banned?
IIRC only for certain kinds of pesticides.
Seed dressing is basically coating seeds, in addition to sorting out the substandard seeds. It's quite common for a farm to retain some of the grain from harvest, as this is essentially seed, and then ready for next drilling a seed dressing company comes in and prepares the seed.

Back to the earlier question from the poster who expressed concern about the relative amounts spent on seed, vs that on fertiliser, herbicide, pesticide. That smacks of an assumption that money spent on seed = good, fertiliser, herbicide etc = bad.

It could be that without the herbicide you couldn't economically harvest the crop. For example OSR, couple of weeks minimum before harvest an application of roundup kills off a lot of the perennial weeds and assists dessication of the crop and controlling ripening. Without this the mass of vegetation doesn't get handled well by the combine and can block up.

At this point some folks will go Roundup glyphosate ooh nasty. They are simply wrong despite the scare stories.

Flumpo

3,743 posts

73 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Clarkson has cows, how herd can it be…


FiF

44,072 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Flumpo said:
Clarkson has cows, how herd can it be…

Now he's just milking it.

Blackpuddin

16,517 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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FiF said:
Flumpo said:
Clarkson has cows, how herd can it be…

Now he's just milking it.
Dairy go down that route though?

Mcphisto

830 posts

135 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Blackpuddin said:
FiF said:
Flumpo said:
Clarkson has cows, how herd can it be…

Now he's just milking it.
Dairy go down that route though?
Pull the udder one!

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Any news of a third season?

Flumpo

3,743 posts

73 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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zygalski said:
Any news of a third season?
It’s udder consideration.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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zygalski said:
Any news of a third season?
Season 2 if we’re luck will be May/June 2023 not 2022

jammy-git

29,778 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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Welshbeef said:
zygalski said:
Any news of a third season?
Season 2 if we’re luck will be May/June 2023 not 2022
Why? The Season 1, which came out in July 2021, had the harvest for Aug 2020, so it stands to reason that this years harvest will be released next year.

Dashnine

1,302 posts

50 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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jammy-git said:
Welshbeef said:
zygalski said:
Any news of a third season?
Season 2 if we’re luck will be May/June 2023 not 2022
Why? The Season 1, which came out in July 2021, had the harvest for Aug 2020, so it stands to reason that this years harvest will be released next year.
...as they haven't stopped filming since the events at the end of Season 1. It's not like they've suddenly rushed out with the cameras when it was renewed the other week.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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jammy-git said:
Why? The Season 1, which came out in July 2021, had the harvest for Aug 2020, so it stands to reason that this years harvest will be released next year.
Big assumption.
To invest without funding & at the time covid lockdowns everywhere ballsy.

But until we have confirmation there is no way of knowing who is wrong or right.

Take Rust Valley on Netflix - where is the next season?

aparna

1,156 posts

37 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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Welshbeef said:
Big assumption.
To invest without funding & at the time covid lockdowns everywhere ballsy.

But until we have confirmation there is no way of knowing who is wrong or right.

Take Rust Valley on Netflix - where is the next season?
I can give you confirmation it will be 2022.