The Apprentice 2023

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Stealthracer

7,114 posts

165 months

Saturday 18th March
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Tom is fine with the current comedy format, but would be a bit lost if it reverted to the serious programme it used to be.

On the other hand the whole thing has become such a comedy now, that it needs a serious reboot.

Or better still, just put it out of our misery.

djc206

10,347 posts

112 months

Saturday 18th March
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I think one of the interviewers hit the nail on the head when she said about cottage industries. They’re all such small businesses with such limited scope. A pick and mix stand? Jesus wept. Marnies seems the best of a bad bunch to me.

The business plans were fking woeful. Who doesn’t proof read their plan or at the very least spell check it?

I like Simba, a man with integrity. I don’t watch the YF programme so no idea whether his idea was viable or not but I thought he carried himself with distinction and hope he does well out of the process.

m3jappa

5,976 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th March
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I always wonder why tradesman are so under represented. One did win it one year (joseph something iirc) with his plumbing business.

Surely a national company providing services such as electrics, plumbing, whatever is a potentially much larger business (much riskier as well perhaps) than a fking sweet shop.

bearman68

4,213 posts

119 months

Saturday 18th March
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m3jappa said:
I always wonder why tradesman are so under represented. One did win it one year (joseph something iirc) with his plumbing business.

Surely a national company providing services such as electrics, plumbing, whatever is a potentially much larger business (much riskier as well perhaps) than a fking sweet shop.
Because Tradesmen (and women) are out there working and making the business happen. And to be fair, £250k is not a large sum of money. I could see our business using £250k quite nicely, but if we were that desperate for it, for a good idea, it's better to go to a bank, and borrow it. That way you don't need to go half shares with Alan - a silent partner who will never show up to do any actual work, and demand teams meetings from London. No, it's not an attractive proposition for anyone who is actually running a business.

RicksAlfas

12,798 posts

231 months

Saturday 18th March
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Maybe someone could actually make something? I know it’s not very trendy these days but it would be great if someone turned up and said “there is a demand for these widgets which currently come from China. I need a machine and a workshop”.

Big Stevie

575 posts

3 months

Saturday 18th March
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Milkyway said:
My first thought was JOHN CAUDWELL, a billionaire & founder of Phones4U.... He’s pretty caustic like LS.
Didn't he once have a series on TV like this many years ago, probably well before The Apprentice appeared?

m3jappa

5,976 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th March
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bearman68 said:
m3jappa said:
I always wonder why tradesman are so under represented. One did win it one year (joseph something iirc) with his plumbing business.

Surely a national company providing services such as electrics, plumbing, whatever is a potentially much larger business (much riskier as well perhaps) than a fking sweet shop.
Because Tradesmen (and women) are out there working and making the business happen. And to be fair, £250k is not a large sum of money. I could see our business using £250k quite nicely, but if we were that desperate for it, for a good idea, it's better to go to a bank, and borrow it. That way you don't need to go half shares with Alan - a silent partner who will never show up to do any actual work, and demand teams meetings from London. No, it's not an attractive proposition for anyone who is actually running a business.
Very true to be fair.

500TORQUES

304 posts

2 months

Saturday 18th March
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RicksAlfas said:
Maybe someone could actually make something? I know it’s not very trendy these days but it would be great if someone turned up and said “there is a demand for these widgets which currently come from China. I need a machine and a workshop”.
UK manufacturing can't compete making tat currently made in China.

It would need to be a high value added item that requires specific skills and design, not easily ripped off by a sweat shop, to be a profitable enterprise.

Milkyway

6,610 posts

40 months

Saturday 18th March
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Big Stevie said:
Milkyway said:
My first thought was JOHN CAUDWELL, a billionaire & founder of Phones4U.... He’s pretty caustic like LS.
Didn't he once have a series on TV like this many years ago, probably well before The Apprentice appeared?
I can remember him having a programme... sort of a Dragons Den / Entrepreneurial advice etc.
( Or a fly on the wall type programme).

Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 18th March 11:43

FourWheelDrift

86,387 posts

271 months

Saturday 18th March
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Big Stevie said:
Milkyway said:
My first thought was JOHN CAUDWELL, a billionaire & founder of Phones4U.... He’s pretty caustic like LS.
Didn't he once have a series on TV like this many years ago, probably well before The Apprentice appeared?
2008. Natural Born Sellers - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1318053/?ref_=nm_knf_...

Milkyway

6,610 posts

40 months

Saturday 18th March
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FourWheelDrift said:
The Angel;
I never saw this... but sounded interesting.
Maybe tweak it so that each weeks chosen contestant goes into a final...only the losers reveal their business plan.
The business will still be unknown, but the FINAL winner gets the cash & all is revealed.
( Only a six week series... but that’s usually enough.)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zf9FLVqo_po


Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 18th March 12:13

jammy-git

29,366 posts

199 months

Saturday 18th March
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m3jappa said:
I always wonder why tradesman are so under represented. One did win it one year (joseph something iirc) with his plumbing business.

Surely a national company providing services such as electrics, plumbing, whatever is a potentially much larger business (much riskier as well perhaps) than a fking sweet shop.
Suralan is a products man.

MBVitoria

1,873 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th March
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vulture1 said:
s94wht said:
I liked the bit where Marnie got berated because she wanted to open a gym where there were 21 others in a mile radius. As if somehow 22 was too many but 21 could operate perfectly fine. Would the guy have said the same thing to the other 21 gyms? At what point are there too many? What's the cutoff?
Yes I've researched those 22 gyms they on average have 1000 customers each. My gym can handle 1000 as well so I only need to attract 5% from each one to a gym where a gold medal winner will be working.
Yeah my first thought was that if the market in that area can support 21 gyms then surely there's enough business to support another.

I think Marnie has to win. Not entirely fair IMO if she's already secured £300k in funding but shows that she's serious.

DSLiverpool

14,091 posts

189 months

Saturday 18th March
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jammy-git said:
m3jappa said:
I always wonder why tradesman are so under represented. One did win it one year (joseph something iirc) with his plumbing business.

Surely a national company providing services such as electrics, plumbing, whatever is a potentially much larger business (much riskier as well perhaps) than a fking sweet shop.
Suralan is a products man.
Joseph went bust spectacularly because he turned into a twunt. When Marnie the boxer with her volunteer trainers wins it’ll just be another manicured st show. If I had to put money into any of them it’ll be the cafe as it’s an actual business

Big Stevie

575 posts

3 months

Saturday 18th March
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MBVitoria said:
I think Marnie has to win. Not entirely fair IMO if she's already secured £300k in funding but shows that she's serious.
She could use Sir Aluns £250k to help pay back her £300k loan.

MrOnTheRopes

1,356 posts

233 months

Saturday 18th March
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MBVitoria said:
vulture1 said:
s94wht said:
I liked the bit where Marnie got berated because she wanted to open a gym where there were 21 others in a mile radius. As if somehow 22 was too many but 21 could operate perfectly fine. Would the guy have said the same thing to the other 21 gyms? At what point are there too many? What's the cutoff?
Yes I've researched those 22 gyms they on average have 1000 customers each. My gym can handle 1000 as well so I only need to attract 5% from each one to a gym where a gold medal winner will be working.
Yeah my first thought was that if the market in that area can support 21 gyms then surely there's enough business to support another.

I think Marnie has to win. Not entirely fair IMO if she's already secured £300k in funding but shows that she's serious.
When I saw that bit of the interview and the exchange between them my first thought was...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS1le_8ZhOU

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GloverMart

11,318 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th March
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Big Stevie said:
MBVitoria said:
I think Marnie has to win. Not entirely fair IMO if she's already secured £300k in funding but shows that she's serious.
She could use Sir Aluns £250k to help pay back her £300k loan.
Quite a fair chunk of it was a grant IIRC

redrabbit29

496 posts

120 months

Sunday 19th March
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I found most of the series quite entertaining and didn't take it seriously at all. The interviews episode really was difficult to watch though.

A few things really irked me:

- Karen trying way too hard to be spiteful tt. The whole "that's baroness brady.... only my friends call me Karen". It is even more ridiculous as they've spent the past 10 weeks referring to her as Karen and presumably spending hours per day in her company. There were also other occasions when she was just being utterly horrible.

- So much of the interviews was just about trying to make the candidates look stupid. Ok fair enough it's not hard. But every interview was just stuff like:


I counted 33 spelling mistakes

You don't know the figures do you?

That's 3 parking spaces!

You haven't got a clue

etc... just not fun to watch really

- Marnie (I think) who had all the investments nearly ready was really unfairly treated I think. Karen just entirely dismissed it as "you don't have the money". Marnie never said she did. She said she had the agreement, and lots of different pots of it promised to her. That is way more than any of the other jokers.

cuprabob

12,692 posts

201 months

Sunday 19th March
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redrabbit29 said:
I found most of the series quite entertaining and didn't take it seriously at all. The interviews episode really was difficult to watch though.

A few things really irked me:

- Karen trying way too hard to be spiteful tt. The whole "that's baroness brady.... only my friends call me Karen". It is even more ridiculous as they've spent the past 10 weeks referring to her as Karen and presumably spending hours per day in her company. There were also other occasions when she was just being utterly horrible.

- So much of the interviews was just about trying to make the candidates look stupid. Ok fair enough it's not hard. But every interview was just stuff like:


I counted 33 spelling mistakes

You don't know the figures do you?

That's 3 parking spaces!

You haven't got a clue

etc... just not fun to watch really

- Marnie (I think) who had all the investments nearly ready was really unfairly treated I think. Karen just entirely dismissed it as "you don't have the money". Marnie never said she did. She said she had the agreement, and lots of different pots of it promised to her. That is way more than any of the other jokers.
Karren to you smile

redrabbit29

496 posts

120 months

Sunday 19th March
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cuprabob said:
Karren to you smile
biglaugh appleogies